Bush won't pressure Israel for cease-fire

Why didn't this surprise me?! It's all part of the plan!
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060714/ap_on_re_eu/g8_bush

ST. PETERSBURG, Russia - President Bush rejected Lebanon's calls for a cease-fire in escalating Mideast violence on Friday, saying only that Israel should try to limit civilian casualties as it steps up attacks on its neighbor.

"The president is not going to make military decisions for Israel," White House spokesman Tony Snow said.

Lebanon's prime minister asked Bush, during a phone call Friday, to pressure Israel for a cease-fire. But Bush told Prime Minister Fuad Saniora that Israelis have a right to protect themselves.

"We think it's important that, in doing that, they try to limit as much as possible the so-called collateral damage, not only on civilians but also on human lives," Snow said.

Israeli war planes have been bombing sites around Lebanon, including the main airport, bridges and power stations, to punish Hezbollah for the capture of two Israeli soldiers. At least 61 people in Lebanon have been killed.

On the other side, Hezbollah militants have fired hundreds of rockets at northern Israel. At least 10 Israelis have been killed.

Saniora's office issued a statement saying Bush "affirmed his readiness to put pressure on Israel to limit the damage to Lebanon as a result of the current military action, and to spare civilians and innocent people from harm."

Snow said that wasn't so. Bush merely "reiterated his position" that Israel should limit the impact on civilians, he said.

"It is unlikely that either or both parties are going to agree to" a cease-fire at this point, Snow said.

Bush's conversation with Saniora as he flew from Germany to Russia was part of a round of telephone diplomacy aimed at quelling the flare-up in violence. The president also spoke with allies Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and Jordan's King Abdullah II and thanked them for helping to try to ease the violence in their neighborhood, Snow said.

Bush was pleased that a number of major Muslim nations such as Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia "do not look on Hezbollah as being a legitimate government entity," Snow said.

Hezbollah is an Iranian-backed militant Shiite faction which has a free hand in southern Lebanon and holds seats in parliament. The Lebanese government has no control over Hezbollah but has long resisted international pressure to forcibly disarm the group for fears of igniting sectarian conflict.

Bush has not spoken with Israeli leaders, but Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Snow said. Snow did not provide details of the conversation.

The president flew to Russia for discussions with President Vladimir Putin and a weekend summit of industrial powers being held here. Israel's attacks on Lebanon and the counterattacks on Israel were sure to be heavy discussion topics â?? on an issue where Bush is at odds with some of his allies.

Russia, the host of the Group of Eight summit, and France, another summit nation, have criticized the Israeli attacks. But Bush's strong defense for Israel's right to defend itself has been tempered only by concern that the offensive could weaken or topple the fragile democratic government in Beirut.

The crisis threatened to dash Bush's hopes to see the G-8 summit produce a united stand against Iran's nuclear ambitions and North Korea's long-range missile test.

Snow said it seemed inevitable that the G-8 members would issue some kind of a statement on the Mideast situation, but it was unclear what it would say. Rice said a three-person team sent by the United Nations to the region should get a chance to try to defuse the crisis.

Several drafts concerning violence in the Middle East were already on the table. "With the pace of events, they're going to have to redraft them," Snow said.

"It is important that everybody talk with one voice," Snow said.

In St. Petersburg, Bush's first stop was a monument honoring those who defended Leningrad â?? the Soviet name for the city â?? during the 900-day World War II siege. More than half a million people died, most of hunger. Bush and his wife paused there for a long moment of silence.

In what amounted to a gentle statement about democratic backsliding under Putin's leadership, Bush went from there to sit down with 17 representatives from civil society groups whom he called "young, vibrant Russian activists who loved their country" but who also are concerned about human conditions there. The president said he planned to convey some of their worries directly to Putin.

"I assured them the United States of America cares about the form of government in Russia," Bush told reporters afterward. "I hope I was encouraging for them. It was instructive to me."

The highlight of the president's first day here was a social dinner with Putin at the opulent 18th century Konstantin Palace, the luxurious venue Putin chose for the Group of Eight meetings.

Beforehand, the president spent part of the afternoon on a bike ride in a wooded area near the site of the summit.

Bush and Putin meet as U.S. and Russian negotiators try to conclude a deal to let Russia join the World Trade Organization. Russia hoped to have the presidents announce it as early as Saturday.

But while officials reached a breakthrough in banking, officials said U.S. Trade Representative Susan Schwab and Russian Economics Minister German Gref continued working Friday on a number of other sticking points.

"There is no resolution at this point," said Sean Spicer, Schwab's spokesman.

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1559 was a resolution adopted by the United Nations Security Council on September 2, 2004. It called upon Syria to end its military presence in Lebanon by withdrawing its forces and to cease intervening in internal Lebanese politics. The resolution also called on all Lebanese militias (including Hezbollah) to disband.

Nine countries voted in favor: Angola, Benin, Chile, France, Germany, Romania, Spain, the United Kingdom, and the United States. Six countries abstained: Algeria, Brazil, the People's Republic of China, Pakistan, the Philippines and Russia.

The resolution was sponsored by France and the United States. The cooperation between these two nations on an issue concerning the Middle East was seen as a significant improvement in their relationship, compared to their earlier bitter disagreement over the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Due to the prior colonial relationship, France has long taken a special interest in Lebanon.

Syria made few moves to comply with the resolution until the assassination of Rafik Hariri, the former Prime Minister of Lebanon, on February 14, 2005. International pressure to withdraw intensified and public perception in Lebanon turned strongly against Syria, evidenced by mass demonstrations that were labeled the Cedar Revolution. President Bashar al-Assad of Syria announced on March 5, 2005 that he planned to "bring his forces home." The withdrawal, involving about 14,000 troops, took about seven weeks to complete.

On April 26, 2005, after 29 years of military action in Lebanon, the last Syrian troops left Lebanon. Syrian military and intelligence facilities, after the destruction of sensitive documents or the transportation of logistical material, were turned over to Lebanese counterparts. This action left the Lebanese government as the main violator of the resolution due to its refusal to dismantle the pro-Syrian Palestinian and Hezbollah militias.

On December 27, 2005 Katyusha rockets fired from Hezbollah territory smashed into houses in the Israeli village of Kiryat Shmona wounding three people [1]. UN Secretary General Kofi Annan called on the Lebanese Government "to extend its control over all its territory, to exert its monopoly on the use of force, and to put an end to all such attacks" [2].

On January 23, 2006 The UN Security Council called on the Government of Lebanon to make more progress in controlling its territory and disbanding militias, while also calling on Syria to cooperate with those efforts. In a statement read out by its January President, Augustine Mahiga of Tanzania, the Council also called on Syria to take measures to stop movements of arms and personnel into Lebanon[3].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Secu...esolution_1559

Hezbollah SHOULD have been disbanded by now.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Its probably a good thing that they have Hezbollah there so they can fight the Zionist invaders. It's very clear! Stay out of Arab affairs!!

Don't tell me that if the Russians or Chinese invaded America and we were under their control and policies that there wouldn't be any type of "terrorist militias" fighting them to regain the land that was taken.

As I said before...modern Israel was set up by the Illuminati to further their agenda as a war instigator. This modern Israel has NO RIGHT TO EXIST if they are meant to be instigators of war. It is not the Israel from the Bible!!

The Illuminati know what is going to happen.

hezbolla is just a puppet of Iran............
hamas= syria


seams easy.................


what do they have in common? Radical islam.

This has nothing to do with religion. America won't pressure Israel on cease-fire because Iran needs more conflict to intensify bolstered support among all Arab nations. That takes alot of attention, most of which will be directed away from Iraq.

The stage is being set. There's going to be a war. The time is now to become vigilant.

Keep involved in the news and government addresses. We should all stay as informed as possible. It doesnt matter whether you think cnn is bullshit or fox is a government lapdog or if cbc is too right-wing. it doesnt matter. theyre reporting what's going on just the same. just dont take their opinions as the actual truth.


the war isnt about good or evil. it's about who's strongest to continue control of that section of the world. i think that's the basis of any war. it's always about land and resources. we fight brutal bloody battles in order to control a section of land. once control is attained, then the victorious occupier cultivates it into a thing of beauty.

That's why this new guerilla-style of open warfare is such a big problem for governmental powers. Unless you have complete control after invasion, you have to concentrate all resources on suppressing the uprising.

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Originally Posted by Bong30

hezbolla is just a puppet of Iran............
hamas= syria


seams easy.................


what do they have in common? Radical islam.

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Oh you and your anti-Muslim garbage!!! Blame everything on Iran now that Iraq has been Amerikanized.

UH OH!! THOSE FREEDOM HATING MUSLIMS ARE REALLY OUT TO GET US!!! SAVE US FUHRER BUSH!!!!

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

Oh you and your anti-Muslim garbage!

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Since when is the truth anti-Muslim?

Officials at the Iranian Embassy in Beirut declined to comment. Nawaf Moussawi, head of Hezbollah's international relations department, acknowledged Iran's political and military help, but declined to comment on reports of Iranian troops in Lebanon.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NGIJJM87B1.DTL

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1559 was a resolution adopted by the United Nations Security Council on September 2, 2004. It called upon Syria to end its military presence in Lebanon by withdrawing its forces and to cease intervening in internal Lebanese politics. The resolution also called on all Lebanese militias (including Hezbollah) to disband.

Nine countries voted in favor: Angola, Benin, Chile, France, Germany, Romania, Spain, the United Kingdom, and the United States. Six countries abstained: Algeria, Brazil, the People's Republic of China, Pakistan, the Philippines and Russia.

The resolution was sponsored by France and the United States. The cooperation between these two nations on an issue concerning the Middle East was seen as a significant improvement in their relationship, compared to their earlier bitter disagreement over the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Due to the prior colonial relationship, France has long taken a special interest in Lebanon.

Syria made few moves to comply with the resolution until the assassination of Rafik Hariri, the former Prime Minister of Lebanon, on February 14, 2005. International pressure to withdraw intensified and public perception in Lebanon turned strongly against Syria, evidenced by mass demonstrations that were labeled the Cedar Revolution. President Bashar al-Assad of Syria announced on March 5, 2005 that he planned to "bring his forces home." The withdrawal, involving about 14,000 troops, took about seven weeks to complete.

On April 26, 2005, after 29 years of military action in Lebanon, the last Syrian troops left Lebanon. Syrian military and intelligence facilities, after the destruction of sensitive documents or the transportation of logistical material, were turned over to Lebanese counterparts. This action left the Lebanese government as the main violator of the resolution due to its refusal to dismantle the pro-Syrian Palestinian and Hezbollah militias.

On December 27, 2005 Katyusha rockets fired from Hezbollah territory smashed into houses in the Israeli village of Kiryat Shmona wounding three people [1]. UN Secretary General Kofi Annan called on the Lebanese Government "to extend its control over all its territory, to exert its monopoly on the use of force, and to put an end to all such attacks" [2].

On January 23, 2006 The UN Security Council called on the Government of Lebanon to make more progress in controlling its territory and disbanding militias, while also calling on Syria to cooperate with those efforts. In a statement read out by its January President, Augustine Mahiga of Tanzania, the Council also called on Syria to take measures to stop movements of arms and personnel into Lebanon[3].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Secu...esolution_1559

Hezbollah SHOULD have been disbanded by now.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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GS, "You cant handle the truth"..............said like Jack Nicholson


you nailed him on that post P4b.............how can you come back from that.

you cant...........

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

Oh you and your anti-Muslim garbage!!! Blame everything on Iran now that Iraq has been Amerikanized.

UH OH!! THOSE FREEDOM HATING MUSLIMS ARE REALLY OUT TO GET US!!! SAVE US FUHRER BUSH!!!!

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No pics.............???? getting lazy GS................lol

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Originally Posted by Bong30

GS, "You cant handle the truth"..............said like Jack Nicholson

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Tell em' like it is!!!:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko

The stage is being set. There's going to be a war. The time is now to become vigilant.

Keep involved in the news and government addresses. We should all stay as informed as possible. It doesnt matter whether you think cnn is bullshit or fox is a government lapdog or if cbc is too right-wing. it doesnt matter. theyre reporting what's going on just the same. just dont take their opinions as the actual truth.

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This has merit, and its good advice.

Thanks Nicholas.

I guess Israel dosn't take any shit but since when is killing civilians right or justified. Israel is one step from starting a bloody affair that will probably destabilize the entire mid-east. They will then probably call for our help when they find them selves in a 3 front war. Its just sad. Especially when things were just starting to look up. This kind of looks like the start of world war three to me.

and the conspiracy point of view section by section created disasters by order of importance and it is about oil not to gurantee a supply but to gurantee a profit.

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and the conspiracy point of view section by section created disasters by order of importance and it is about oil not to gurantee a supply but to gurantee a profit.

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I dont know Walka, it seems to me that the blood of the war machine is oil.

Its getting harder and harder to find these days, so from a point of view of trying to take over the world, I'd think controlling the oil is a pretty high priority.

Not to sell mind you, but to have for the war machine, and to control who has a surplus of it.

Again, we are USING the Jews to justify action against Iran. Its coming. Hold tight. Stay home and watch it unfold on cable because we won't be able to afford the gas to go anywhere, including our jobs, and then the cable guy will shut down the cable... and then, we'll know what war means.

i havent decided my political party yet (im 16)

i know it is a stereotype for democrats to be like drug using hippies

and i have noticed alot of ppl here are talking about all the shit bush is doing

so most everyone here democrat?

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Originally Posted by zero2104

i havent decided my political party yet (im 16)

i know it is a stereotype for democrats to be like drug using hippies

and i have noticed alot of ppl here are talking about all the shit bush is doing

so most everyone here democrat?

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No, I just think Bush is a puppet and ineffective mouthpiece for an inner circle of right wing zealots... Look up the backgrounds of Donald Rumsfeld, Karl Rove, Dick Chenney and Paul Wolfowitz.

But you shouldn't even think about being a democrat until you're in college. Reading Writing and Math is for today; discovery, and critical thinking is for later, like hiking in Europe to find yourself after college... just kidding, buddy,
Peace!

Why bother going the route of a diplomatic cease fire? That merely delays another inevitable conflict.

The harsh reality of humanity is...diplomacy only goes so far when dealing with organizations, societies, and nations that can't help but meddle in the affairs of others.

Hezbollah/Iran feels justified in it's firm stance against Israel.

Israel feels justified in their preemptive move to snub future Hezbollah/Iran attacks.

I assure you, the two sides are not ever going to shake hands, pat each other on the back and sit down for a picnic. They hate one another.

Vehemently at that.

Once you've eradicated a pest infestation in your own yard, the next obvious place to assure the prevention of future infestations is to cross your property line...and stick it to bugs before they stick it to you.

While I do not condone Israel for blasting the crap out of Beirut, I do feel they've the right to protect themselves from their aggressors...every bit as much as Hezbollah has the right to protect itself.

If the outcome is one or the other being wiped out of existance...well...life does indeed go on.