New policies appear to be failing

So I went back to check my old thread ('Bring Back Other Psychotropics'), and was "amused" to discover that, after I left that thread in frustration for not receiving an answer, a mod decided to provide that answer to someone else on the very same thread. I won't say any more about what I think about that, because I'd probably be banned for it, so moving on.

The reason given was, basically, that the new owner wants more ad revenue, and removing Other Psychotropics was part of an attempt to guide the forum toward more mainstream appeal.

What I would like to know is: are the numbers up? Is more money coming in? Are we seeing more new users? I don't have access to any of this info; all I can see, like most others, is a general decline in post quality, a LOT of people bitching about closed threads when closing a thread used to be pretty uncommon here and nowhere to discuss topics that are important to the community. Oh, and an increase in non-cannabis related threads on the Recreational board since confused new members don't know where to put their questions and haven't yet discovered that this community won't serve them on that regard.

I'm not angry anymore; I'm saddened that I had to leave this board for the most part (found a new one that allows discussion of other substances, I'd link but I think that would be a violation of forum policy), because there were some good people here. I just want to know if this is working or not. Did taking away Other Psychotropics help at all? If so, will any of this new revenue be put into improving the boards (desperately in need of a new layout, could use a broader featureset), servers (no more "The server is too busy" messages would be nice) or maybe the main site (which is a joke, everyone I know just bookmarks the forum cuz there's almost no worthwhile content on the rest of the site)?

I know this request will almost certainly fall on deaf ears, but would the new owner consider replacing Other Psychotropics with Other Psychadelics, so we could at least discuss similar substances such as psilocybin? It's a slap in the face to the cannabis community to be told we can't even discuss other soft drugs that are no more illegal or taboo than cannabis in most countries.

Oops, forgot another question - assuming none of the policies change (I assume they won't), are we allowed to talk about other psychotropics in the context of other discussions? Example: If I were to post on the Spirituality forum, could I talk about psychadelics as they relate to my spiritual views?

This is REALLY getting old! Psychotropics is gone...threads about psychotropics WILL be deleted.

If you don't like the rules of the house, go somewhere else. Either enjoy what we have to offer or leave...just like real life.

If you go to a restaurant looking for pizza and all they sell is steak, do you constantly stop in and bitch or go to a pizza place. Eventually if you do keep bitching about pizza in THAT type of restaurant, how long before the owner shows ya the door? hint,hint

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Ya know, we do have alot of good things going here and this is a real buzz kill to say the least. We don't have all the bitching, put downs, etc......just had an arcade put in. Damn, why not just enjoy dude!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

By the way, congrats on the Hex highscore Psycho!

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Last night I played till me eyes couldn't focus....this morning when I got up I thought what the hell. NAILED it on the first go!!!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

omg dude, the reason has been stated numerous fucking several times, you're one of the main people that keep bringing this shit up... drop it already... it's gone, it's not coming back, it was the OWNERS DECISION and since he OWNS THE SITE now, it's his 100% DECISION WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SITE period, end of story.

fuckin right

OK, did anyone actually read my post or did you all just think, "Oh, Solistus is bitching about Other Psychotropics again, let's flame?"

I asked TWO specific questions: one asking for statistical data about the site and the other asking about the Spirituality board. Psycho4Bud, you know what's a buzzkill? The fact that you post on every one of my threads and bash me without answering my questions. These are new questions, and I think I deserve an answer. If my favourite pizza place turned into a steak house and the manager set up a Feedback and Suggestions bulletin board or whatnot, and I asked if he thought people were liking the change and if that change meant I wasn't allowed to talk about pizza in the restaurant anymore, I'd expect an answer.

I'll take your response as an answer to my first question: STFU and stop asking about it. Fine, if you guys want to be like that, there's nothing I can do. But I asked a specific question about the Spirituality forum that I would still like answered. Are we not even allowed to discuss other substances there in a relevant manner (e.g., talking about the history of spiritual/shamanic use of psychadelics)? Yes or no? It's a pretty simple question. You could answer it with just a few words. Why don't you?

On a more general note, why are you always so damn hostile? I understand that you guys don't plan on brining OP back, but you act like I'm being offensive just for bringing the matter up. If you have such good reasons for your actions, why can't you be civil with your users and explain them? If you guys keep saying take it or leave it on your fucking FEEDBACK AND SUGGESTIONS forum, I'm going to be pretty miffed. I'm not breaking rules, I'm not flaming people, I'm not asking the same question over and over. This is an issue of concern to me, and I would be a lot happier if you would just give me a reasonable response.

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Originally Posted by Solistus

OK, did anyone actually read my post or did you all just think, "Oh, Solistus is bitching about Other Psychotropics again, let's flame?"

I asked TWO specific questions: one asking for statistical data about the site and the other asking about the Spirituality board. Psycho4Bud, you know what's a buzzkill? The fact that you post on every one of my threads and bash me without answering my questions. These are new questions, and I think I deserve an answer. If my favourite pizza place turned into a steak house and the manager set up a Feedback and Suggestions bulletin board or whatnot, and I asked if he thought people were liking the change and if that change meant I wasn't allowed to talk about pizza in the restaurant anymore, I'd expect an answer.

I'll take your response as an answer to my first question: STFU and stop asking about it. Fine, if you guys want to be like that, there's nothing I can do. But I asked a specific question about the Spirituality forum that I would still like answered. Are we not even allowed to discuss other substances there in a relevant manner (e.g., talking about the history of spiritual/shamanic use of psychadelics)? Yes or no? It's a pretty simple question. You could answer it with just a few words. Why don't you?

On a more general note, why are you always so damn hostile? I understand that you guys don't plan on brining OP back, but you act like I'm being offensive just for bringing the matter up. If you have such good reasons for your actions, why can't you be civil with your users and explain them? If you guys keep saying take it or leave it on your fucking FEEDBACK AND SUGGESTIONS forum, I'm going to be pretty miffed. I'm not breaking rules, I'm not flaming people, I'm not asking the same question over and over. This is an issue of concern to me, and I would be a lot happier if you would just give me a reasonable response.

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To be honest, I was pretty pissed about the decision to remove Psychotropics, but I just decided to move on and enjoy this site because I like talking to a lot of the people that are here. Just drop it. You're not going to get what you want, until you buy the damn site from Sundance, and I don't really see that happening anytime soon. It's in the past now.

Hempamasta - I have dropped it. I know OP is not coming back. I've said that multiple times now, and I'm pretty sick of repeating it. I want to know what, if any change in usage patterns have occurred since this change happened, what the plans are for this site if it does see increased revenues, and if the ban on discussing other substances applies to discussion of them in the context of Spirituality-related postings. I understand that I'm not allowed to post about DXM extractions and whatnot anymore, but can I talk about mushroom cults? The fact that half a dozen people will basically tell me to shut up before anyone even acknowledges that I asked these questions annoys me greatly.

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Originally Posted by Solistus

The fact that half a dozen people will basically tell me to shut up before anyone even acknowledges that I asked these questions annoys me greatly.

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And your annoying the hell right out of me with all this whining! It's been a month now and you keep it up and keep it up. IT'S DONE NOW!!! You piss and moan about this one more time and hint hint is turning into vacation, vacation.

Out of over 6,000 members your the ONLY one to persist. IT IS DONE!

Get over it or your out....very simple!

Dude, are you being this obnoxious on purpose? I am asking new, different questions, NOT requesting that OP be brought back! Please refer to my new thread, since you seem incapable of comprehending what this one is about. It will be posted in a few minutes.

[QUOTE=Solistus] since you seem incapable of comprehending what this one is about. [QUOTE]

LOL....comprehend this...........See ya in 3 and you better drop the crap!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

I'm still with you Solistus , i'd like to know the answer to your questions as well.

Khronic

If a religious group uses psychotopics for their purposes....great, post it in religion. But it had better relate only to that and not personal trips, etc.......

COMMON SENSE is the key words here involving this issue. Pounding salt up the forums ass about this IS NOT religious! Nor is jumping on here once a week just to bitch about the past.


Have a good one!:thumbsup:

sol, why the hell would anyone even read your long list of crap, when you've done nothing but bitch about what's done and over with in the past to begin with? why would someone bother with read all that, when in the past, all you've done is prove your shit unworthy of even taking the time to be reading... remember that saying 'never cry wolf' well, twist it a little, don't bitch so much and maybe someone will give 2 shits... i'm with the mods, all you've done is try to get up under their skin one way or another with your smart ass questions... i don't even really know wtf you're going on about.... but i know this... i'm willing to bet every last dime (and possession) i own, down on the fact the mods are right and you're just trying to stir up shit...

psycho, how come just a 3 day ban? if you ask me her deserves a month (he's been putting us all through shit that long right?) or even perma-ban. i really don't think he's going to do anything, but stir up shit...

I seem to be noticing a thread of hostility around here. I think everyone needs to burn one and just chill. P.S. dont ban me I just got here.

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Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho

psycho, how come just a 3 day ban? if you ask me her deserves a month (he's been putting us all through shit that long right?) or even perma-ban. i really don't think he's going to do anything, but stir up shit...

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All of us (mods) have our own way of doing things. As for myself, well, I'll just spell it out:

Flaming, or constant bitching about nothing like this thread:
3-30-life
This gives the party a bit of a breather to see if they REALLY want to be a member

Racist remarks....depending on the severity:
30/life
NEVER should happen!

Sales/looking for a hook-up:
Warning by e-mail/ 90/ life
OOOPS...thought on a cannabis site.....then from there.

Pyramid Schemes:
Life
Illegal scam and a rip-off to the members

Ya know, some think we just get off on banning people and that is SO FAR from the truth.....it's a real downer to say the least.....the most unpleasant thing a mod has to do.

This place has really turned into a cool place to hang, in my own judgement, with the "no personal attacks" rule. On top of that now we have a kick ass arcade at ALL our disposal. SHOULD be a very mellow atmosphere for a bunch of tokers.

It kind of boils down to this....should a few people be allowed to ruin the experience for the other 6,100 active members? Chill, enjoy, learn to grow, have a good time; or the other options are to leave with grace and dignity or get booted for the good of the majority.

Hope I answered your question..........little wasted.:D :stoned:

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

Haha! Man, it isn't regular for people to get banned. Mods have good reasons when someone gets banned. And if you do get banned, it's usually not very long. It depends on what you were doing. Simply follow the rules. The mods here are really nice, and do their jobs well. But you just cannot please some people...
Smoke em' if you got em'! :pimp:

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I agree, this is actually a really good board if you think about it, all the mods are pretty fair and as long as you just obey the rules, you're fine.

Just received this in an e-mail from our friend:

"When my ban lifts, I will post a thread offering my Feedback - that
you ought to treat your user base better. Removing OP made me sad
and lessened the utility of cdot for me, but your behaviour has
convinced me that I don't want to be a part of this community anymore."

It's very clear to me that you have full intention of just being a pain to the Cannabis.com community and myself.......since you DON'T want to be part of it but WILL post more garbage.

Well, I'm going to help you out and save us the grief!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Just received this in an e-mail from our friend:

"When my ban lifts, I will post a thread offering my Feedback - that
you ought to treat your user base better. Removing OP made me sad
and lessened the utility of cdot for me, but your behaviour has
convinced me that I don't want to be a part of this community anymore."

It's very clear to me that you have full intention of just being a pain to the Cannabis.com community and myself.......since you DON'T want to be part of it but WILL post more garbage.

Well, I'm going to help you out and save us the grief!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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~cheers~ finally, no more bs from him... lol...

that's why I didn't post my email in the Mods column...

since no-one actually answered his question...I must say.

the site usage or membership is on public display, any marketing or member usage info is the property of Cdot, and It's release woulf be solely up to the owners...peace

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Originally Posted by Solistus

If so, will any of this new revenue be put into improving the boards (desperately in need of a new layout, could use a broader featureset), servers (no more "The server is too busy" messages would be nice) or maybe the main site (which is a joke, everyone I know just bookmarks the forum cuz there's almost no worthwhile content on the rest of the site)?

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After these comments I really didn't give a crap about getting into specifics with him anyways.........there was only one purpose for the post and that was to raise hell.
LOL....how long has it been since ANYONE has seen the "server is too busy" message?

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

i still seem once in awhile durring extreme peaks, but i've only seen one or two in the past month... i must say, that's alot of improvment from before.

I will never understand why, or how, so many people can sit and bitch about something on a FREE website ... if you were paying money for a service that wasn't to your liking, that would be MUCH different, you would have the right to complain ... if you disagree, either go along, or get the fuck out ... this is "CANNABIS".com, not "gluesniffer.com, or LSD.com", or anything else like that ... I for the life of me, can't even imagine how "other psychotropics, religion, sex, etc." even got here in the first place ... Politics, sure, as long as it relates to the government's war against cannabis ... what the hell does anyone's opinion on the war in Iraq, have to do with cannabis ??? ... (unless, of course, your supply of hashish was hijacked by terrorists, that could be understandable) ...
bottom line, if ya don't like it, make your own damned website .... :smokin:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

This is REALLY getting old! Psychotropics is gone...threads about psychotropics WILL be deleted.

If you don't like the rules of the house, go somewhere else. Either enjoy what we have to offer or leave...just like real life.

If you go to a restaurant looking for pizza and all they sell is steak, do you constantly stop in and bitch or go to a pizza place. Eventually if you do keep bitching about pizza in THAT type of restaurant, how long before the owner shows ya the door? hint,hint

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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if you want steak and enough people demand steak at the pizza place, eventually the company would figure out that they can make money selling steak to people and probably put it on the menu. popular demand! i say you open up a psychotropic forum and make people pay for it.

"Yeah hi Dominoes?" "Yes sir how can I help you?" "I'll take the london broil medium well with a baked potato!"

Its just doesnt fit. ;) Not that I like Dominoes AT ALL.

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Originally Posted by Blackrock

"Yeah hi Dominoes?" "Yes sir how can I help you?" "I'll take the london broil medium well with a baked potato!"

Its just doesnt fit. ;) Not that I like Dominoes AT ALL.

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papa johns is worse, atleast dominoes fully cooks their goddamn pizza's... i can't tell you how many times i've had to send pizza orders back cuz they were only half cooked (dough was gooey, cheese not even melted, some of the topics even as hard as fresh topics such as bell peppers...)

hahaha topics? you must mean topings. too much bud for you tonight eh?

Domino's sucks anyways. I guarantee though, if enough people started writing the corporate office bitching that there was no steak on the menu, they'd come up with some way to cash in on the deal.

...Like a philly steak and swiss pizza or something...

MmmmMMmmm.

lmfao yes i meant toppings, i've been 'retarded' ever since i started my new medicine (a month or so ago) i can't even describe it really, i used to not have to proof read everything... but now, if i don't, i gaurntee the wrong words are in the wrong place in my posts >.< probably doesn't help much i'm drinking, but it sure as hell isn't making it much worse (it's still bad even if i'm ~sober~)