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SO far in the past month ive talk to about 100 something people a week about the end of marijuana prohibition. Every new person i meet i always am like support the end of the prohibition of marijuana. Talk to em about a few facts. Spread some imformation. And hopfully gain more supporters that will talk to others. It gets depressing after awile theres so much doupt and sarcasism. But i will not give up. :D :D :D
Hopfully you all have some encouraging words. :cool:
SMOKE ON :stoned:
Good job man!!!!
Mad props on getting the word out
like bob marley said
get up, stand up, don't give up the fight
hang in there man
if you changed the minds of all those people, then your def doing something right!
and for the hard headed fuckers that aren't getting it yet, they never will, its not your fault, just move on to the next person who will listen to what you have to say
This whole thing reminds me McCartheyism...so many people toke but they're scared to say anything cause the law is out to get them...so they stay silent and don't do anything, hide behind the shadows. It takes courage to stand up to unjust laws and critism...courage which if all the tokers out there would just get out and show the world all the bullshit there is about bud, there might inevitably be coffee shops instead of bars in the cities. We gotta start sometime...
you know I used to be a strong supporter of legalization as well. but really if you think about it that is going to be a sad day. the day when you see feilds of the stuff growing along the highway or where ever. because as soon as it's legalized you know the coperate pharmicudical companies are going to take the entire market. whos going to want to pay todays prices when the man is going to undercut the growers. plus with all that coperate backing the quality and strains would probley be pretty equal to the good home grown. just sayin that maybe you should consider the tens of thousands of growers who are going to broke and forgotten just like that. I would think that any intelligent grower would be against the legalization of herb. however any buyer is going to be all for it. I think the little risk involved is not worth loosing when it will result in almost a complete loss of business. any person who supports the legalization is not a friend to the grower unless its the coperate grower.
on another note if you were truly trying for legalization just know that it would take a national spokesperson with the access of lots and lots of tv and radio time to effectivly convince all the smokers to stand up for the cause. chat rooms and marchs and pamplets will never do enough. the only way to make a movement happen in this day and age is through the use of the broadcasting network. and I don't mean a half hour show at midnight on some off shut channel. talkin prime time, six o'clock news, dateline big time big network to really reach the audience. thus I would not expect a change anytime soon as that is very unlikely to happen
i have no problem with the coorporate grower... :D those coorporate growers that will sell in everygas station across america will have brand names and franchises of differnt strains.
Yeah of course people will still grow. But those strains in the gas stations will be the best in the world. ANd generally most people who smoke pot dont grow. :cool:
The main reason i support the end of prohibition is simply... So much money is wasted by our goverments towards the prosecution and imprisonment of marijuana smokers. its like what 30 billion a year in the us? :(
Its a huge percentage of people that are being fed, and taken care of in prisons paid for by tax dollars.
Besides i bet that when the money made from the smoking marijuna compared to industrial marijuana will only be like 1% in comparison when its all said and done.:p
And im not talking medical marijuana... not trying to cut my country short
im talking the fulll blown end to prohibition.
SMOKE ON:stoned:
oh and as a second note, the spokes person(s) have to be non-pot smokers
true that on being a non pot smoker. good luck with that let me know how that turns out. i'm on the winnin side as of right now
I know, i been doing that for years, just talking to random people about it, lots love the idea and think the same as us but theres a few people i have converted and now they support th cause.
I think its one of our best bets really, tell as many people as we all can, pass it all on and on and on and hopefully the government will give up and let us have what we want. The right to smoke a harmless plant freely whenever and whereever i want in front of whoever i want.
dnups215... im sorry man but your side thats winning has only been winning for almost 70 years. Its time fora change i do believe... WHOS WITH ME
not me not me i'll stick with what works. besides it takes balls to do the things we do now. helps weed out the puss's. I get a kick out of the yellow bellies afraid to suffer the consiquences of there actions. In no way callin you yellow. just a quick reference to old aquantinces. just cracks me up the youngins who want to run with the big dogs but when it comes to to taken it to the next level. HA. most just don't have the kahonas
also all those yellows are the same ones to scared to say shit. there fuckin with yours and so many others hopes for legalization. I myself don't want legalization for personal reasons if you havn't figured out. I would think it to be upsetting to hear people brag up legalization during a smoke session but then turn a blind eye to the public. people are just to concerned with what others think. people just need to do there own thing, stand up for there own thing and be danm proud of there own thing. gotta agree with me on that last point
I give you props. You do what so many won't.
hell yea. keep hope alive
the zogby poll showed that we're reaching critical mass..
Zogby poll: Growing numbers of Americans want pot regulated like alcohol
A national poll of likely voters found that nearly one out of two Americans support amending federal law "to let states legally regulate and tax marijuana the way they do liquor and gambling."
these numbers will probably just increase over time. the governments attempts at supression only misinform the seriously deluded and only increase demand for cannabis. haha we really only have to wait the drug war out.
eventually well win
toke on
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I'm fearing the end of prohibition. It'll mean thousands of commercialised variations and even more rip-offs, price increases, quality decreases, and inflation.
Decriminalize, shit yeah. But don't make it legal.
Seems we need education even in our own ranks.
Legalization will increase quality. Just like you can buy cheap ass beer for $5 and there are fancy imports that can get really exspensive. Just like you can buy shitty wine and then there are the excellent quality wines. So it will be the same with cannabis and hash products.
You see, i am not a politician, i am not a lobbyist, i am not anything to do anything with the goverment, i am an educator. Without educators others will not be able to educate. Befor one can educate, one must be educated.
duh.
Yes when it is legal, you will be able to buy pounds of very high grade stuff for a very low price. I think i actually read that the indutrial hemp during the early 1900's was going for 15$ a ton.
Dont worry. I think we should trash the economy system eventually anyways in the far far far far far far future after all of us are long dead.
EVER HEARD OF THE TERM PROPAGANDA?
well... I have. And the goverment has alot of that.
The good old fashion brain washing grade propaganda that is desighned to make mental imprints.
We need some of that stuff but pro-marijuana propaganda.
You are not seeing the bigger picture. Govt will tax the shit out of cannabis and prices will be rediculously high. Imports will be even more expensive than before, legislations will make life hell for a weed smoker, like it has with normal cigarette smoking.
You keep saying that legalization is good - but when the fuck has any government done anything where the people have profited? Open your fucking eyes.
Open MY EYES?! YOURE TELLING ME TO OPEN MY EYES!!!
Every day thousands of children are deprived of their education for having pot in school. (understandable they shouldnt have pot in school)
Isnt the percentage of teenagers who smoke pot in a country where its legal is less tehn a country with it illigal?
Every day id say millions of tax dollars are wasted in prosecution and imprisonment of non-violent pot smoking offenders.
Day after day, year after year all of those innocent people suffering persecution by their own goverment. Their OWN GOVERMENT!!!! MY OWN FUCKING GOVERMENT.
I shall not stand on the side lines and watch as my own peoples suffer.
SO open my eyes?!
I dont know what got you to change sides. I know you share the passion for this miracle plant just as so many of us do....
But fuck you dont tell me to open my eyes. I think smoking pot has got you paranoid.
I will make it my lifes work to legalize it if i have to.
And seriously......., high prices and it will be taxed the shit out of?
IM sorry lol yeah high prices for tobacco but how many people have you met with a tobbacco plant growing in their back yard?
I dont think your grasping the full concept here. IMagine every unused acre of land growing pot fields.
SMOKE ON!!
thats why im all for decriminalization ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dnups215
I thought of the corporate take-over as well.
Personally, the only thing that would bug me would be advertisers thinking of ways to "hook" people on their product.
Other than that, I don't mind the thought of growers going out of business. No one being arrested for having cannabis ever again is a good trade.
Sorry for the grower's businesses, but I support legalization. Even if the corporate businesses got control over it, don't forget you could still grow it yourself, and virtually keep a never ending supply this way. If I had a place to grow, I definitely would do it.
ya why cant they just make it legal, then they could tax us when we buy it and be done
people could still grow also
IF the growers get hurt by legalization then that will be one unfortunate consequence but that's just how it's going to have to be. I don't want to see them get hurt but legalization is the answer regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by dnups215
Let's face it, the battle for legalization is not for cheaper prices, better quality, more profit etc... the fight is against so many people going to jail. If the growers don't want it to be legal then they are no friends to the hundreds of thousands who are arrested every year and incarcerated.
The fight isn't about being able to smoke pot. Anyone who wants to smoke it now can. It's availalble in every city, town, village, suburb and rural area in the country and most of the world. We want to see an end to this WAR. It's like saying we can't end the war in Iraq because then all the people who profit from war will be hurt. So what, if ending the war is the right thing to do.
Anyway, it might turn out that they're not hurt. They would just be allowed to become legal growers. There are many different models for legalization and and they will be debated.
Decriminilization is NOT the answer. That will insure that the black market still reigns and with that will be all the same problems of gangs and violence. I don't mind if it is taxed. Then those tax dollars are going to go to helping people with serious drug problems and will help to fix other problems in society. Even with the taxes, prices will come down. Legalization is the only answer to this mess we are in.
Before marijauna is legalized though we are going to legalize HEMP. I'm working hard at it and I PROMISE, it WILL happen. Always remember this, Hempstone told you so.
It's all about principles. Marijuana is a fine herb that deserves to be enjoyed in an environment completely free of social stigma. To do that, we must make it legal. Growers might lose their jobs. However, did it ever occur that maybe it's a chance for all those growers to go public, and get their products noticed?
Marijuana shouldn't be illegal. Bottom line. The government needs to correct itself and finally admit, "it's not as bad as we said, our bad". Which we all seem to know as true.
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I'm glad to see so much different disscusion towards a similar goal. I think that prior to legalization, we as the people would have to consider all the ways to go about doing that, all the different reasons why AND why not to legalize it, and consider all the possible outcomes good AND bad. This forum is great for bringing all different oppinions and information together, glad to see it. Everyone should also keep an open mind and listen and discuss both sides. That is the only way to become truly educated. One is not educated through the thoughts of one teacher or individual but only forms an oppinion that way. So I say listen, discuss, listen, discuss, listen, discuss, attack with a solid educated plan.
And I understand that the argument for the growers sake is a pretty weak one in the big picture but I still stand where I stand untill I have enough facts to change my oppinion. Key word oppinion because I won't say that I or any other one person is educated enough to say they have all the facts and the solution
I say again discuss discuss discuss discuss and work towards becoming more educated.