couple Q's on my first grow

ok, i have two plants, they are bag seed i geuss.
i am just experimenting and learning.
ok, they are about 3 weekes old.
planted 5/20/06, one has prolly 2 nodes. the other one has like 1 fully developed one and one developing one.
they are planted in a cheap hydro media.
the big one is in 100% vermiculite in a cup. with holes punched in bottom.
the other one is about 50/50 vermiculite perlight.
the 50/50 one has a preety long stem, it was windy today and it kind of bend , and the leaves turned towards the sun.
the stem is now shaped like this _/- that,, kinda lol

the other one, the fan leaves are drooping kinda, idk if its normal.
its doing good other than that thou.:thumbsup:


any body got some pics of a 3-4 week old seedling,




ps. what is the avg time when they go into vegatative state, from the seedling state?

Heres some 2 week olds, close as I could get, just scroll to the bottom of my thread http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=67935

holy shiz!!!!!! ig euss mine are alittle slow lol

unfortunatley.. I am away from HQ and can not upload pictures at this time...


a healthy 14 day old plant started from seed is ready for extreme vigerous growth.. the plant should produce a new node every 1-3 days...

droopy leaves are often caused from over watering... which is what I would guess...

iloveyou

ok, so do you think i should pull it outa they hydro solution a couple days?
i checked today and this is only happening with the 100% verm. one... mabye the perlight gives them the right amount of oxygen/dryness


what would stunt the plants growth?, could it be that i started them on nutes with in the first 3 days of sprouting?:D lol,or could it be that i moved them,(from one state toanother, about 50 miles) in the back of a truck?

well, i will try to get some pics tomarrow if i have time alone with my babies:dance: :pimp:

you shoulda put them under a small 2ft 2 bulb flo,in a box.Build 1! You can hide that and run a drop cord what ever.Rabbit's love tender lil' plants! I know this,Thank's to them lil' gremlin's! I got a whole tray of 32 cuttings eatin' to the stem, while they were hardin' off. You can't ever be to careful as to get to harvest at anytime in your life. So...... I live by this theory.....

One for the Rook
One for the Crow
One to Rot
And one to Grow!

This does mean sunthin'! I'm sure if you have a need to know? I'll be more than happy ta splain myself as to the true meaning! MINE!

Holla!
Ga Grown

well, i like rabbit meat, so if they eat it, they die. lol

i got a saying to, actually i just made it up
u eat my plant,i eat u! lol

well, i got some pics, the first 2 are my 100% plants, like few days ago, then 3 is the perl on, i think idk thou cause i cant remember what pics they are. lol

but u can tell by the media:rasta:

lemme tell ya! Ya don't want the root's to get light! Try to transplant into a light proof container.

Ga Grown

any body see anything i am doing wrong?

what will happen if the roots get light?

i will just paint the container black or sumthin, i dont know about transplanting hydroponics stuff,do yall think it will just fall apart when i pull it out of container(when i pull out the medium)

there have been discusions on roots getting light on here befour do a quick search
the roots shouldent get any light as it can stunt plant growth
and the light can promote other things like bacteria and allsorts of other shit growing in there i would cover them pots with someting
cheers all :)

well see, is a learning expereince. i am transplanting today

Another medium that you can use that won't hold over amounts of water but you can treat as hydro is Coir.

here is an article on it. you can mix it with what you are already using but it if literally impossible to get water logged if you have holes on the bottom and a bit of run off space.

http://www.maximumyield.com/article269.htm


Cheers and good luck,
Winks

thanks, i will read that

it makes perfect sense... vermiculite offers no drainage and I would personaly never ever use it.... Never! lol that is why the plant in vermiculite is drooping ... the roots are not getting adequate 02...

iloveyou

perlite on the othe hand is porous and offers roots plenty of oxygen..

transplant into a 80% soil 20 % perlite mixture... into 1-5 gallon containers... put a piece of newspaper down on the bottom of the container... then fill the bottom 1/2 inch of the containers with perlite for aeration... then add your soil/perlite mixture...

iloveyou

hmm, i was under the impression that vermiculite was a very good cheap hydro medium. geuss not lol.
i am just going to let these go another 2 weekes then flower um and see what i get.
then i will try again :thumbsup: . last time i checked um they were doing really well, and droopy was droopy any more, i let them dry alittle,(didnt add ay water to the paper bowl)

I have done some experimenting and for me clay pellets (hydroton) works best. Holds water, but not too much.

I use composted cow manure and Pro Mix. Outdoors for hardend-off cuttings,and 25-75 for indoor seedling or cuttings.10/60/10 bloom for a spray solution in a spray bottle for cuttings during propagation.1/4 strength.100 % success rate.Great all round mix if'n ya don't wanna use a lot of nutes.The first 2 weeks.

Holla!
Ga Grown

well i transplanted my big plant into a bigger, much bigger pot today. proly 10"tall, 8 wide
think that will take it threw the whole thing>?

the roots looked good. they were kinda green, from the algea or sumthin.
i whent ahead and flushed the soil so it didnt get salt built up.
i am at like 24 days now.
how long do yall think till it will be safe to flower?

That's what I'm talkin' bout! You done the right thing!Glad to hear that you gave them roots some room.The only way algae will grow is if it has light.Light proof container will not let it happen.The roots will be snow white.On the when to flower thing...You should be at least,in my opinion! No less than 12 inches.Bigger the plant.Greater the yeild.If ya got the room? Then 18 inches.My preference! This jack I got has just stopped stretching .Shew!!!!!!! I was sweating it.I waited till they were 18 inches too.So....... Start Jack Herer at 12 inches.Keep up the grow!

Holla!
Ga Grown

Ga Grown

yea, igeuss i have room to grow i am gorrila gardening kinda, its in our lot next door. there are pickers and all kinds of vines and stuff so it should camo in with the rest.


my small plant
has a problem, it has stoped growing...





I JUST FOUND OUT MY PEOPLE THAT DONT LIKE IT ARE LEAVING TONIGHT, I THINK I WILL TAKE THIS OPPURTUNITY!!!