sorry if soem of you have seen it
http://www.guardian.co.uk/drugs/Stor...791915,00.html
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sorry if soem of you have seen it
http://www.guardian.co.uk/drugs/Stor...791915,00.html
14 years of prison for a few joints?
Holy shit prison is gonna be full of nothing but stoners until they can't even fit real crinimals!
Unless cops are really gonna go that far to put kids in jail for 14 years?
14 years reminds me of the 15 years of imprisonment from Oldboy for fuck's sake.
who are these so called experts?they know nothing at all about cannabis,last time i was at court for growing they weighed the whole plant and the leaf from the rubbish bag,and 20 plants worked out at £95,000,i only grow for myself but to but it here cost £100 a ounce so that would have been 950 ounces from those 20 plants,47 and a half ounces a plant,WOW id only have to have 1 crop to be happy for the rest of my life,the goverment should keep its big fukin nose out of drugs and concentrate on getting its own house in order,a bigger band of crooks never had office in the uk
I know, they have no idea. They arrested a friend of mine and wighed the wet plants, the wet rockwool, the whole hydro set up and said the whole weight was of the cannabis, to have done it he must have had something like you gromorebud... It's stupid.
It looks like we'll be seeing long-leaves of abscence from our English friends on the forums.
Look at the dates of the related articles, it looks like someone, in the world, is a few years behind:
Related articles
02.05.2003: Cannabis 'could kill 30,000 a year'
01.05.2003: Make peace to win war
23.04.2003: Polly Toynbee: just say no to a drugs policy that doesn't work
23.04.2003: UN 'dinosaur' sticks to the zero option
16.04.2003: Alan Travis: high stakes
14.04.2003: Thinktank urges leniency for cannabis growers
22.03.2003: Cannabis medicine 'on sale this year'
19.03.2003: Government steps down on harsh drug measures
18.03.2003: Leader: protect private cannabis cultivators
11.03.2003: Sara Smith: the crack den next door
05.03.2003: Legal changes threaten drug workers
http://www.guardian.co.uk/drugs/Stor...791915,00.html
So if you have over 5 grams of cannabis you're up shitz creek, but if you have less than 14 grams of crank/speed/crystal meth you're O.K.
They cannot possibly be ignorant of how destructive a speed addiction can be compared to a weed one.
Someone wants people hooked on speed...
What a pile of crap. How can having 5g. be considered dealing. 5g. is nothing some people smoke that in a day here. 14g. of speed is loads its the equivelant of about 3oz of weed I reckon.
It makes me sick, even the drugs advisory coucil say that cannabis should be kept as Class C and we should be allowed 1 Oz [28 grams] before its intent to supply. Well, within the first 2 weeks of this they will have changed the law again, cos they cant afford, or imprison all these people. If this goes through i can definatly say that people will complain. They wont have room for REAL ciminals, and they wont be able to arrest the murderers and rapists cos there too busy arresting people for smoking and growing a plant thats harmless. They aint hurting no one so why is it against the law. Have they got NO idea.
This is a typical government, that are trying to tell us how to live, and not listening to what the people of England want. Aover half of ppl in UK want weed legalised. It's a joke. If i got caught i'd move, and wouldnt bother turning up for court. Its a damn joke and it makes me sick to my stomach knowing these little jumped up morons can say the shit they are saying.
30,000 a year could die? WTF? Cannabis is harmless, and people are realising this now, if they carry on bullshitting people will not vote, and people will start riots, and i support them.
They're war against drugs failed before it started, why cant they THINK for once, and do the right thing, the thing that would put THEM back into control, by legalising the harmless drug. And what the fuck is this shit about .5 of a gram for a spliff, i normally have at least 2 gram spliffs cos i smoke it pure.
This cant be real, its not been thought out at all, and its all once big joke, that will give the government some of their biggest ever problems.
I know, thats what i was thinking, AND, speed is class B aint it? Why can they have more of a drug that higher up the scale? SucksQuote:
Originally Posted by growitandsmokeit
well im on a bail back for 19.00 tonight so ill see if im going to be persicuted again,i got 12 month's last time,but it was a class B drug then so we shall see,ill post l8er and tell ya whats happening,i got caught with 31 plants this time,10 blue berry,10 mr nise,5 ak47,6white widdow,all 3 weeks into flower.......GUTTED
Bad luck gromorebud thats a fair amount of weed to be caught with. Whats the potential yield of that about 100oz. or something.
Its pitiful when the cops measure every last thing to try and build a case against you. A friend of mine from back in school was arrested for possession. They got a warrant to search his house and they took his 2 plants, his bongs, pipes, vaporizers, they even took his collection of novelty lighters, and stated in court that he had cannabis weighing over 10 kg in his house. His case was eventually thrown out of court, because the prosecution changed its charge to dealing, and when it was revealed that he only had a few grams of actual cannabis, the judge ruled that they couldn't change their charge again, as it was 'fishing for criminals when there are thousands already.'
Cops and public prosecutions were forced to make a public, written apology and my friend sued them both anyways. Lost against the cops but won against the prosecutors (they settled) and he made a couple of thousand.
The ironic part? He used the money to start a farm and now he deals anyway...
no where near m8 i dont grow them very big about 1 meter when finnished and i grow for quality not quantity so i take off most of the lower branches to get a couple of heads,i try to get enough for about a years smoking from a grow,i was actually using less than half the space available to me so i could easily have got another 35-40 plant's in there if i was going to try to sell it,best of it is they left most of my equipment,WTF?they only took my ballasts,left all my shades and fans and carbon filter,are they trying to tell me something or do they want to get me again?Quote:
Originally Posted by growitandsmokeit
the government are clueless fuck ups!!
but dont worry, i really doubt itll happen, it was only a month or go, that the suggested guidelines were going to be 500grams of weed, theyve gone from one extreme to the other
my bet is this is just some kind of fucked up government thing for whatever reason i cant be bothered trying to work out, and theyll settle for the middle, somewhere between 28-100 grams?
ill bet he love you for posting that on a public forum, hardly gonna be many other cases like that!Quote:
Originally Posted by willystylle
Thats udder bullshit and i will not stand for it.Theres going to be so many merderers and rapists running around you better watch your ass.(Literally).
produced a quantity of cannabis a controled drug of class c in contrvention of section 4(1) of the misuse of drugs act 1971.
contrary to section 4(2) (a) of and schedule 4 to the misuses of drugs act 1971.
had in your possession a quantity of cannabis a controlled drug of class c with intent to supply it to another in contrvention of section 4 (1) of the misuses of drugs act 1971 contrary to section 5 (3) of and schedual 4 to the misuses of drugs act 1971.
what a load of balls the second charge was a bin full of yellowed leaf, WTF has any would anyone here buy leaf never mind yellow leaf?ud think ur dealer was taking the piss if he even offered it to you,
my solicitor said that the second charge will get thrown out of court and they only dropped it on me to get a guilty plea on the first charge,im pleading no case to answer as i cant see how anyone has the right to tell me what i can and cant put into my own body,i always thought there had to be a victim for a crime to be commited,so can i be my own victim because there sure as shit stinks aint any other victim in this..
Simple, when and if we get nicked tell them to shove it and you aint gunner be charged for something thats one big joke.
THEY cannot arrest someone for growing a plant, this is it, I cant stand this country anymore.
As far as im concerned cannabis is legal and its like tobacco, free to take anywhere. Screw the cops, maybe if we all just start smoking more and more the gov will see its just made it worse and not better.
when this is over im off this country is all about control,im only still here now because i wanted my daughter to get a english education anyway or id have gone when labour got in again at the last election.
Tell me about it, im moving out soon, im gunner get me a job and new life somewhere where i aint gotta be scared, so its highly likely i'll be moving to holland.
Ignore it
Have u not noticed this happens almost monthly with nothing happening at the end?
Last week a muslim was shot it was big news now they release this to take the eys of the terrorist BLUNDER and bring it on the bad cannabis smokers
the same thing happened 3months ago
and 6 months ago
Always read things twice they dont say its definitate meaning:
IT WONT HAPPEN WELL JUST SAY THIS TO TAKE THE MEDIA OF THE MAIN HEADLINES.
When they change the drug laws u dont hear about it before
it just happens!
SO CHILL AND TOKE ;)
have i ever been wrong :p
I was thinking. Then i wasnt, then i was again. I came to the conclusion you are probably right, although if your rong you owe me QP of some damn nice skunk.
They better not damn well put the max down. 5 grams is nothing, an Oz is nothing. The limit should be 4 Oz's or under is personal use. Stupid morons... Well i supose its the "Government", what can you expect lol?
lol itf fucking fine!!! calm the fuck down
not many of us r fucking dopey enoutght o carry more then an eitgh on road anyways so fucking big whoops it will only effect when your selling ounces but your allready at high risk then so fuck it .
I dont give a fuck if cannabis is reclassified or not. Class C, Class B, Class A... fuck, make it a class Triple Z if you want - you wont stop me smoking and growing it.
Bastards.
5 grams, 28, a quarter pound, it ain't none of their fucken business.
booze kills how many people each year? through liver disease & car crashes?
pot kills how many?
none?
but then why don't they have a limit on how much booze you can buy?
I know the decriminalization process will proceed slowly...but really, things won't be fair until there are NO limits on how much weed you can grow or own.
I mean, for fuck sakes, I'm a 40-something human being and I'm "not allowed" to smoke the naturally dried remains of a plant that has been growing on this planet naturally for thousands or even millions of years?
Like, where the fuck am I? What is this so-called reality? It ain't Home, niggahs, I'll tell you that. Home wouldn't treat living creatures like this.
It sucks a cat's ass that I have to be weedless because I can't openly ask anyone to sell it to me. I have to wait on Chance to meet a stoner in my day to day life because there's nowhere to go to meet local stoners. And yea, I can "go" online and meet fellow stoners but I'm not allowed to ask them to help me out. And even if I was allowed by the site admin, most people would be too scared to help because of the LAWS AGAINST MARIJUANA. Laws, I might add, that have been made by people, human beings. Not dogs or cats or snakes or lizards, nor trees or flowers or automobiles, but people. Icky, shitty, intrusive control freaks.:(
Well said, Brother, well said
Also, we have cannabinoid receptors in our brains that are ONLY active when we consume Herb. We also have opiod receptors. One question comes to mind - were we created (by whomever) with these receptors intentionally placed, or have we been using these substances for so many years that our brains have evolved to handle these chemicals?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Schenker
Then again, think about it a little and the answer is obvious. If we had no CBN receptors, then we wouldnt be able to enjoy smoking/eating Herb. In other words, it would have no effect on us. So if, millions of years ago when we first discovered Herb, it had no effect, why would we carry on using it? The answer is that we were purposefully created with these receptors firmly lodged in our brains.
So, whatever created us wanted us to be high all the time. Praise the Lord!
Just read this..interesting.
The cannabinoid receptors in our brain and skin have been around since before dinosuars.
Im with Tom, it dont matter what happens, they'll never stop me smoking and growing it.
Legal drugs kill more people through side effects and allergy AND overdose than the illegal ones. Are they ill? They're the government, of course they are.
They have no idea how to keep a country in shape, and how to keep people happy.
Why have THEY banned something natural? It's not right...
THEY cant ban something natural...
As far as im concerned its legal, and was never illegal.
It's a damn joke.
I'm seriously making plans to leave this shit hole for good. You couldn't trust this government to run a corner shop, let alone the country.
They want to arrest and jail as many people as possible, and they are going after the easy targets.
I know, i mean, they are fishing for criminal's when there's already... Well, lets face it, over a million already.
It's stupid, and a waste of tax payers money, and yes, i pay income tax, car tax, council tax and every other fucking tax. Our moneys being wasted on catching harmless stoners like us when they're rapists and murders STILL on the run... I mean, look at the news, half the murders and rapes and things like that are never found out. This is because the cops are too busy busting people for smoking a plant, that is harmless.
I cant wait to move outta this shit hole, not much longer now.
I completely relate to your anger about the government bullshit, but England is a beautiful country and most of the people here are lovely. You won't find people with a better sense of humour anywhere else. They can take the piss out of themselves, they can laugh at themselves, and they aren't so quick to be offended like so many Americans. The Yanks get angry too quickly. It's almost like they are looking to be insulted. They think they're special but they're mostly spoiled brats with little or no discipline. I'm a Yank, but fit in better over here. I love England. I would fight for her if it came down to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LIP
So where are you going to move to?
Holland?
But ain't it as expensive as hell? And ain't it hard to immigrate there?
Would you care to elaborate on how you got nicked?Quote:
Originally Posted by gromorebud
Helicopters with FLIR? Informants? Pissed off girlfriend?
i got nicked because a theiving twat ran tru my house getting chased by the police and i was having a spliff at the time ,so they took the easy way and searched my house,i suppose to the police a nicking is a nicking when it's all down to number's and he was long gone but i was to stoned to stop him,maybe if i'd jumped on him they would have just took him and left me.