i dont understand this at all

i was just at a friends house gettin high as hell, and his roommate and her friends turned up.. then my mate fell asleep so i was in a room with a load of ppl i didnt know.. we smoked some more, then got into a discussion about the nature of existence, that kinda thing

anyway it pretty much ended up like this.. they all believe, and agree, that our sole reason for existence is to earn money.. they think thats why we're all on the planet.. they also think that earnin money is more important than actually living, and that there is nothin more important in society than money and thats how it should be.. this has depressed me slightly, because i know so many fuckin people think the same way.. anyway, what ya'll think? peace

Money = Survival.

It's a cruel world man. If we didn't have money, we would still be hunting & gathering.

The purpose of life is to pursue happiness, but at the same time survive.

its a shame money drives our way of life.
one day (with money) ill get a big place and go feral. shut the gate and never look back (except to pay council rates).
(and other taxes)
(and to sell some weed for some money to buy...shit..)
back to square one. :rolleyes:

I say life was better before money, when we were hunter/gatherers.

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I say life was better before money, when we were hunter/gatherers.

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you mean hunter/gatherer/gardeners? im sure they used to smoke that homegrown back then.. :p

do you live in the US? sounds like it.. haha. the people you were talking to sound like the result of the capitalist mini-world we have going here (in the US).. money has as much importance as man puts on it.. which, sadly enough.. is a lot right now. but i dont think that the reason for our existance has anything at all to do with money.. money is a product of our greed and inability to share what was given to us.

but yeah.. i agree with what a lot of people here are saying.. in today's world.. surviving without money is almost implossible.

It is a shame that we have replaced god with money. now i am not religous or anything but even the church seems to care more about their annual buggets than their persuit of the faith they chose to serve. And there is so much more to life than the prsuit of money..... have u all forgot the most important of all pursuits....LOVE OF WEED... come on yal!!!

yea, surviving without money is impossible, and it fuckin sucks.. naw i dont live in the US, im in the UK, but it aint much different

im gonna work my balls off for X amount of years, and retire somewhere away from money, politics and religion, with just me, my buddies, my wife (hillary duff or britney spears, i havent planned that far ahead) and my bud :)

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yea, surviving without money is impossible, and it fuckin sucks.. naw i dont live in the US, im in the UK, but it aint much different

im gonna work my balls off for X amount of years, and retire somewhere away from money, politics and religion, with just me, my buddies, my wife (hillary duff or britney spears, i havent planned that far ahead) and my bud :)

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ya ghost i hope to be on the beach in a few years myself... surf in the front yard and cultivating in the back..... a simple life sounds nice

where in brit. do u live, i work in houston and i work with more brits than americans. i will be visiting newcastle in about a yr

yea! im only 17 and already ive seen enough bullshit and hypocracy to make me want to live the 'simple life'..

i live in Jersey, in the Channel Islands.. its about 2-3 hours south of England, and 1 hour west of Frence :) yourself?

man created money, and man is questioning existence.

Think about it folks.

Houston texas, i work in the oil field and it keeps me going for now, but think i'll open a bar a sell "fu fu" drinks to tourests and become a grower instead of just a smoker

man=godless,perverted,greedy,corrupted,completely obsessed with whealth, and we've killed 50 percent of the earth, im depressing aint i?

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man=godless,perverted,greedy,corrupted,completely obsessed with whealth, and we've killed 50 percent of the earth, im depressing aint i?

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Hard to beleive we've killed half the earth when theres more people alive today than there ever has been in all history.

Not to say we havent killed most of the other critters and crawchies around.

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Hard to beleive we've killed half the earth when theres more people alive today than there ever has been in all history.

Not to say we havent killed most of the other critters and crawchies around.

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don't u worry,
we're r own
worst enemy!

Money, shit, i suppose in the copedative world of North America, yes momney is tha center of our sosicety, (cant speak for anyone in other coutnries, caus ei dont live there)
Obviosuly money si improtant everywher, but mroe important then money is knowladge.

The power of knowladge can own the world. Gerally fact wise, we only know what people tell us, we can judge waetjher we bleive it or not based o our exierpecen.. gerneally based on what other people tell us. Whoever ownes ownes the knowladge arouidn us.... Governments and such,(and in my opion a very spect few huge peopel who own almsot all the buisness) can form how soscieyt is,. by only letting you know what they want you to know.

You can of corse try tyoru best to ignore the hipe and pop culture and juts try to live a life based on your own conclusions of wisdom and universal truths.

But bottom line for the avg person, u genrally need money to live, yes u can livve off fedding at the shelter, and housing at your buddys, but honesltly, are oyu gonna do that?

Soemthign esle thats important in our competative world is usefullness. If you have a skill, trade, education in a rare field, a vast knowladge on a certain subject, you become "valueable" (at least from a buisness owners stand pint) then u can d wtf u want, cause your indispensable.

But then again thats no the only way to make it, my buddy chuck ownes the landscape company i work for, and works at a bleech plant for 16 bones an hour, he's doing we'll off! .. And he's never gotten his gr.12. and he'sstil young,
His freind started hairdressing year ago, made it on her own, opened her own place and now has a 4 story house. pothead. Started out earnign miniumum that hiardressers earn. No inheritance or anything.

So you dont need to "go to shcool to be a sucess" like certain factions would have u believe, same people who tell you drugsa will ruin your life.
In my opionon thes hidden powers are afraid of eveyrthign tehy cant forsee, it's easy to keep trakc of peope or understand people who follow hte hype. While drugs can help you refelct on the shits thats goign down. Tehy want to get you in this "go getter" mindset so tehy can own you. If your a person who makes risky desison yoru a risky, because oyu can do something unexpected.

I think the real meaning of life is to live, and just try to live fully, without attaching a particular vlaue to yourself, you are who you are, and even tho tey dont want you to realsie it, juts being yourself is amazing!!!!!

Why do you think so many people are commiting hommoicdec, murderss, and fallign into self destructive habbits like anerexia, suicide, obesity, self amputation. Iy's because the powers to be want you to thikn your nothign unless you do what they tell you.
Or be who tehy tell you to be.


And now i look crazy.

Cesar

you always look crazy C. dancing with that casio on your head lol!
yeah i was pissed when it turned out everyone who left school got jobs and trades and buisnesses and everyone who went to uni got a degree in a flooded market.
I did neither. :(

What are you doign imhotep? ruling sum tomb in egypt doesnt sound that bad.

man rmemebr this, tho they want u to think this, life isnt a race, and oyur not gogin to be chocking on dust, because u didnt do blah blah blah, just be happy wiht being yourself.

yeah being the destroyer of worlds has its perks, but its still not satisfying.
funny how so many people who have got it good are so depressed etc.
spoilt 1st world shits we are.

Ha ha. Man i dunno what to say, juts do whatbu really want to do, then u can treally be disapointed can u?

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do you live in the US? sounds like it.. haha. the people you were talking to sound like the result of the capitalist mini-world we have going here (in the US).. money has as much importance as man puts on it.. which, sadly enough.. is a lot right now. but i dont think that the reason for our existance has anything at all to do with money.. money is a product of our greed and inability to share what was given to us.

but yeah.. i agree with what a lot of people here are saying.. in today's world.. surviving without money is almost implossible.

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very true :)

We used to have a bogarts pizza in town which amde *specail* pizzas, but it was closed down for drug trafficing or sumthing.

Sorry to butt in, but a pet subject of mine here lol

There is a great quote I discovered one day:
"Cannabis will get you through times of no money, better than money will get you through times of no cannabis"

Money sucks - ya cant live without it.
It has been programmed into us that we can't live without it.
Our lives have become a set routine of goals that are laid out from the beginning:
Why do I have to go to school?
So that you can educate yourself into a well-paid job.

Why do I need a well-paid job?
So that you can afford to buy stuff, and attract the opposite sex.

Why do I need to attract the opposite sex?
So that you can get married, buy a house, and pay more taxes.

Then you must have children, inbreed within them the same possessive importance of life, and continue to contribute to the machine.

It is so ingrained within us all, that none of us can escape it.
Think about it - would you really be happy living on a dessert island away from everything and everyone that you know?
It would be cool for a while - but soon you'd miss the internet, the snack-shop, the TV, the PS2 ( :eek: ) etc etc etc

Rather than opt out of society, why not try to change the psyche?

I was once severly repremanded by Channel4 (a UK TV station) for suggesting on their website that everyone should spend a year getting stoned when they turn 18. Did they think that I was being irresponsible? :rolleyes:
My point was, that everyone that I know who tokes, is of the same opinion as is being expressed here...

Why not get everyone into the same frame of mind, and then we can go about sorting this mess of a civilisation out!

Maybe I'm being too simplistic, but it's got to be worth a try

I love this planet.
Earth is a fluke of nature that, as far as we know, is unique.
People look to the sky for heaven - but Heaven (in its purest definition) is right here!

Anyways, I'm climbing down from the soap-box now, and going to have a smoke - need to chill, inti :D :D

Res...

Res I couldnta put it better myself... No, seriously, I couldn't, i'm high as fuck :p BUT, I agree totally.. sometimes 'opting out of society' seems like the sane thing to do, but I know i'll never do it, because it's not so simple

So I gues what you said is the only way to go. even if you try and change one person at a time, try and help them see all this shit, then youve done your part.. but it'll take a long long time

Res, i'm assuming you've read The Celestine Prophecy?

i reckon jersey would be cool to stay seen as it is TAX FREE!!!(as far as im aware) more money for weed :)

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i reckon jersey would be cool to stay seen as it is TAX FREE!!!(as far as im aware) more money for weed :)

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No no no no no!!!

We don't get VAT here, but Cost OF Living is alot more expensive.. even stuff we grow over here is more expensive here than it is elsewhere.. so I don't think we're saving that much

Plus, and this is the worst part of all, weed is £160 per ounce! For Soapbar!! Most people can only get soapbar, and it costs £20 per 1/8, and real bud is basically non-existant.. I'm just lucky I have a few god hook ups, or friends with hook-ups, because i'd be forced to pay £160 per oz of soapbar, which is fucking pathetic.. that's the reason i'm growing my own for the first time.. I ordered some B52 seeds yesterday :)

No, I haven't read The Celestine Prophecy - I nearly did once, but I forgot to pick up the book.. stoner, see lol

Thing is, I am a lorry driver, and being a lorry driver who works nights, gives one alot of time to think about stuff.
I look at the world as if I must be an alien or summat. I see people rushing about, taking uneccessary risks, putting their lives (and others) in jeopardy - and for what?
Money.

I hate money.
I hate what it does to people.
I hate having to got to work to earn it, then give 95% of it to people I don't even know (ie, the tax-man :mad: ).
But I do like listening to top tunes, playing WRC3, driving my car, smoking dope... all these things require money.
So, I have to accept that I must be part of the system, in order to escape it - if that makes sense (?)

I live for my own time, and if I need to dip into the real-world to sustain my pleasures, then so be it - otherwise, the world can go .... away

(adjusts the soap-box)

Life is hard enough, init, why can't we all just share stuff, accept one another, and make our time here as painless as possible?
Learn to cherish this planet, and the awesome experiences that it has to offer.
When people ask me why I smoke pot, I tell them that it helps me to see more.

And as for living in Jersey, can you imagine the amount of import tax that you'd have to pay on an ounce of weed :eek:

lol

Res...

ghost id reply with my thery of human nature but no1 would read it with as long as it is i had not trouble writeing a 10 page essay on it for school and i only scratch the top to do that maybe ill write a book? no book take to much doing

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ghost id reply with my thery of human nature but no1 would read it with as long as it is i had not trouble writeing a 10 page essay on it for school and i only scratch the top to do that maybe ill write a book? no book take to much doing

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naw dude go for it, id read it even if no one else does.. shit, its my thread after all lol

Yeah, write it down, dude!

Lets get all deep and stuff... :cool:

According to Vonnegut, man exists to one day make a small piece of metal and deliver it to a moon of Jupiter.
According to Zarathustra (the Nietzchean hero, not me) we exist to become enlightened.
According to me, we exist to endlessly debate the reason for our existence.
If existence has a reason, mankind sure as hell isn't high enough in galactic foodchain to be privy to the secret.