U.S. Troops Cleared In Iraqi Deaths
They did it...
U.S. Troops Cleared In Iraqi Deaths
A military investigation into allegations that U.S. troops intentionally killed Iraqi civilians in a March raid in Ishaqi, a village north of Baghdad, has cleared the troops of misconduct, the military said Friday.
Dramatic video footage from the scene leaves no doubt that civilians, including children, were killed during a raid by American special operations forces, reports CBS News correspondent David Martin. But Pentagon officials say the civilians were not killed deliberately, the investigation found, but accidentally during a shoot out with insurgents hiding in a house.
The investigation of the March 15 attack in Ishaqi concluded that the U.S. troops followed normal procedures in raising the level of force as they came under attack upon approaching a building where they believed an al Qaeda terrorist was hiding, said Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, a U.S military spokesman.
A ground force conducted the March 15 nighttime raid in the village of Ishaqi, about 50 miles north of Baghdad. After being fired upon from the targeted building, the soldiers pulled back and called in airstrikes by an Air Force AC-130 gunship, which attacked and collapsed the building, two defense officials in Washington said.
One defense official said the investigation into the circumstances of the Ishaqi attack found that four people in the building were killed by U.S. forces, including two women and a child. The main target of the attack, said by U.S. intelligence to be an al Qaeda figure, ran from the building but was later captured, the official said.
But local Iraqis said there were 11 dead, contending they were killed by U.S. troops before the house was leveled, and video footage showed a row of dead children.
The bloody aftermath of the attack was captured at the time in the footage shot by an AP Television News cameraman. The video became the focus of attention Friday when the BBC aired it in the wake of recent allegations of U.S. troops killing unarmed civilians.
The footage shows at least one adult male and four of the children with deep wounds to the head that could have been caused by bullets or shrapnel. One child has an obvious entry wound to the side and the inside of the walls left standing were pocked with bullet holes. A voice on the tape said there were clear bullet wounds in two people.
The video includes an unidentified man saying ??children were stuck in the room, alone and surrounded.?
??After they handcuffed them, they shot them dead. Later, they struck the house with their planes. They wanted to hide the evidence. Even a 6-month-old infant was killed. Even the cows were killed, too,? he said.
In a separate case, as many as 24 civilians were killed in Haditha in November. The incident has sparked two investigations ?? one into the deadly encounter itself and another into whether it was the subject of a cover-up.
Martin reports that 12 marines went out on patrol. One was killed and two were wounded by a roadside bomb, leaving nine who either took part in or knew about the killings.
They were led by Sgt. Frank Wuterich, who according to one of the wounded marines, was liked and respected by his men, reports Martin.
However, Wuterich allegedly filed a false report claiming the civilians had been killed by the same roadside bomb which struck the patrol. Officers above him are under investigation for going along with that report despite photographs showing the civilians had been killed by gunfire.
So far three marines have been relieved of command, reports. One of them, Capt. James Kimber, who says he had nothing to do with Haditha, spoke out in defense of the Marines.
??They're the ones out there doing it every day. I mean every day,? he told Martin. ??You know, asked to make life and death decisions. They're walking on the knife's edge every single day.
But according to U.S. lawmakers briefed by military officials, the Marines, enraged by the loss of a comrade, stormed into nearby homes in the area and allegedly shot occupants dead as well as several men in a taxi that arrived at the scene of the blast.
In one of the homes, Marines ordered four brothers inside a closet and shot them dead, said the Haditha lawyer, Khaled Salem Rsayef.
Rsayef said he himself lost several relatives in the alleged massacre, including a sister and her husband, an aunt, an uncle and several cousins. He and his brother, Salam Salem Rsayef, spoke to The Associated Press from the Euphrates River town of 90,000 late Thursday and Friday.
As relatives and witnesses, the Rsayef brothers met at least four times with U.S. military investigators looking into the killings. The meetings, they said, began in February and were held at Samarra General Hospital. The time and venue of each meeting were relayed in advance to the relatives by doctors at the hospital, they said.
The next meeting is scheduled for Sunday, the two brothers said, suggesting that the U.S. investigations into the 6-month-old affair are not finished.
Khaled Salam Rsayef identified the four brothers shot and killed in a closet as Jamal Ayed Ahmed, 41, a car dealer; Chassib Ayed Ahmed, 27, a traffic policeman; Marwan Ayed Ahmed, 28, an engineer; and Kahtan Ayed Ahmed, 24, a local government employee. He said the U.S. military did not give compensation payments to their families because the brothers were believed to be insurgents.
Rsayef said his account of what happened was based on his personal observations from the rooftop of his home and windows. His house is only several dozen yards away from the three homes raided by Marines. The killings, which he did not witness in person, were recounted to him and other members of his family the following day by survivors.
He said his own home shook violently when the roadside bomb went off at 7:15 a.m. and that intermittent gunfire lasted for about two hours. He could not go out of his house to see for himself, but managed to steal quick glances from his roof and from behind windows.
??About 5 p.m. I emerged with my family carrying white flags,? he said. ??We wanted to move away from the area fearing that shooting could resume.?
In the third incident, a man was shot in Hamandiya, near Baghdad, in April. The Iraqi was reportedly dragged from his home and killed by U.S. military personnel. The Los Angeles Times and NBC News said troops may have planted an AK-47 and shovel near the body to make it appear the man was an insurgent burying a roadside bomb. Seven Marines and a Navy corpsman could face murder, kidnapping and conspiracy charges as early as Friday, according to a defense attorney.
More than 4,000 Iraqis ?? many of them civilians ?? have been killed in war-related violence this year, including at least 936 in May alone, according to an AP count, as civilians, not Iraqi security forces, are increasingly the casualties of violence.
U.S. Troops Cleared In Iraqi Deaths
So, are you happy or sad that American troops were cleared of wrong doing in this case?
Leave it to prisonplanet to forget to mention that the terrorists blowing up civillians is what's causing most of the casualties. Typical... :rolleyes:
U.S. Troops Cleared In Iraqi Deaths
Yes there are militants killing their own people...and it is very sad. But for US troops to kill innocent civilians...thats even worse. It defeats the whole purpose of the US being there which was supposedly to bring "freedom and democracy" to Iraq, but I don't see that happening in the near future. We made Iraq into a bloodbath arena.
We were hosed!
U.S. Troops Cleared In Iraqi Deaths
When these people hide out in the middle of women and children it's not the U.S. putting them in harms way. If I were to do war from my house with the law/military/etc. I sure the hell wouldn't have a wife and my kids sitting in the living room with me.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
U.S. Troops Cleared In Iraqi Deaths
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
When these people hide out in the middle of women and children it's not the U.S. putting them in harms way. If I were to do war from my house with the law/military/etc. I sure the hell wouldn't have a wife and my kids sitting in the living room with me.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
Exactly! Any militant worth their salt would take the fight to them... :thumbsup:
U.S. Troops Cleared In Iraqi Deaths
Its also the iraqi's fault for being killed by US training exercise:thumbsup: brace4flaming
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayA...on=focusoniraq
US military kill 3 Iraqi civilians during training exercise
(DPA)
5 June 2006
BAGHDAD/ WASHINGTON - A US artillery round fired during a training exercise killed three Iraqi civilians and injured three others near Baquba, a US statement said on Sunday.
The 155mm round fired by the US forces on Friday also damaged six houses. The latest incident comes at a sensitive time for Iraqi-US relations. Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, sharply criticized the behaviour of coalition forces in Iraq in an interview last week with the New York Times.
??They crush them with their vehicles and kill them just on suspicion,? al-Maliki was quoted as saying. ??This is completely unacceptable.?
US Foreign Secretary Condoleezza Rice, engaged in damage limitation following the criticism, said Sunday the Iraqi leader had assured her of his support for coalition forces in the country.
Speaking to CNN television, Rice said the Iraqi premier told her by telephone he valued and supported the work of coalition forces and understood they had to remain on in Iraq until the country??s own security forces were able to provide security on their own.
At the same time, al-Maliki, who took office just two weeks ago, was also concerned about the latest allegations of human rights abuses by the US military in Iraq. Rice said she pledged her full support to the Iraqi premier in investigating the alleged massacre of 24 Iraqi civilians by US Marines in Haditha in November 2005.
Anyone found guilty would be punished appropriately, she said.
The Pentagon is currently investigating whether the Iraqis were killed in retaliation for a roadside bomb attack on their convoy that killed a marine
U.S. Troops Cleared In Iraqi Deaths
you know, these troops comitted murder. i think they ought to be lynched in the center of baghdad. fuck them.
ps- this post makes me a terrorist.
U.S. Troops Cleared In Iraqi Deaths
it's always an accidental shooting, of course they refuse to take responsibility for what they did. off with their heads!
U.S. Troops Cleared In Iraqi Deaths
you know, I think you guys are getting this incident confused with the Haditha incident. US Troops didnt murder anyone in this story, instead the wall fell over on the civis after the C-130 Gunship layed waste to the house.
U.S. Troops Cleared In Iraqi Deaths
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Originally Posted by Pennsterdam
Yes there are militants killing their own people...and it is very sad. But for US troops to kill innocent civilians...thats even worse. It defeats the whole purpose of the US being there which was supposedly to bring "freedom and democracy" to Iraq, but I don't see that happening in the near future...
There are some of those too but, clearly, most of the civilian casualties are from the terrorists, mostly from outside of Iraq. Iraqi's want us there. The new government wants us to stay until we finish training them. We're their guests. They braved multiple elections, some in very dangerous areas, to elect their own leaders. They proved that they can handle Democracy, I think they'll take to freedom just fine. How little must you think of such a rich culture to assume they can't handle freedom or democracy? :(
U.S. Troops Cleared In Iraqi Deaths
i think i did confuse this with haditha. yeah well like troops who participated in my lai, the troops who murdered innocent children in haditha should be stoned in public--a kind of "stoning" which involves no marijuana at all. No, a kind of stoning where 6,000 angry iraqi's toss rocks at their heads until they die a horrible violent bloody death as their victims did. dont get me wrong i'm not for murdering people, but let justice be served; had this happened on US soil they'd be getting the death penalty.
U.S. Troops Cleared In Iraqi Deaths
Those that break the law should/will be tried and punished by the US military, *if* they did something wrong, and if they they're cleared then it's just hyped like the last one they cleared. It's a long stretch from a few rogues that violate policy (which happens in every war) and suggesting that's the policy as the rabid anti-war left constantly tries to do.
U.S. Troops Cleared In Iraqi Deaths
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Originally Posted by IanCurtisWishlist
you know, these troops comitted murder. i think they ought to be lynched in the center of baghdad. fuck them.
ps- this post makes me a terrorist.
Here Here to true. Man an "accidental firing" sure pull the other leg what a total cop out to get out of what was quite clearly murdering innocent man women and children its an outrage,but obiviously according to the courts and bush its alright well its not and I hope all the leaders of each country including australia should all be impeached and made to answer some serious questions and explain why there is body bags coming home its a disgrace to the human race :mad: But unfortunatly in Australia we don't have impeachment we only have elections.But the governor general can dismiss the elected government and call an election which happened to Whitlam.
P.S this will also make me a terrorist!;)
U.S. Troops Cleared In Iraqi Deaths
Thats right...include all countries and leaders..not just Americas.
U.S. Troops Cleared In Iraqi Deaths
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Originally Posted by Miss Green
P.S this will also make me a terrorist!;)
I rest my case... :rolleyes:
