ha ha ha... fuck all you neo cons... FUCK YOU!!!

Sterling Burnett is a senior fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis, an organization that has received over $390,000 from ExxonMobil since 1998. This afternoon on Fox, Burnett compared watching Al Goreâ??s movie, An Inconvenient Truth, to watching a movie by Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels to learn about Nazi Germany. Watch it:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/23/gore-movie-g/

ExxonMobil doesnâ??t have a substantive answer to Goreâ??s movie, so it bankrolls people like Burnett to smear Gore personally.

Dutifully, Burnett recently wrote an editorial defending former Exxon CEO Lee Raymondâ??s lavish compensation (which amounted to $190,000 a day in 2005). He failed to mention his financial connection to the company.

Notice how the segment ends just as Jeremy Symons was telling the audience that Sterling is a paid, Big Oil shill. Being a Big Oil shill isn't too popular these days.

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Burnett: That's the problem. If I thought Al Gore's movie was as you like to say, fair and balanced, I'd say, everyone should go see it, but why go see propaganda? You don't go see Joseph Goebbelsâ??' films to see the truth about Nazi Germany. You don't go see Al Goreâ??' films to see the truth about global warming...

Symons: Sterling is an odd one to be casting aspersions on what Al Gore's motives are, after all the oil industry has been giving him hundreds of thousands of dollars to his organization, just like tobacco companies used to do to try undercut...

Host: That's a whole other subject guys and we're up against a hard break.


http://mediamatters.org/items/200605240009

As the weblog ThinkProgress noted, the National Center for Policy Analysis has received more than $390,000 from ExxonMobil since 1998, and Burnett recently wrote an editorial defending former Exxon CEO Lee Raymond's retirement compensation (which amounted to $190,000 a day in 2005). The editorial did not mention Burnett's financial connection to the company.

Media Matters for America has documented numerous instances of Fox News anchors and contributors comparing progressives to either Goebbels, the propaganda minister in Nazi Germany, or the Nazi Party more generally. For example:

* The O'Reilly Factor host Bill O'Reilly has compared Media Matters, Media Matters president and CEO David Brock, Air America Radio, filmmaker Michael Moore, and Air America radio host Al Franken to Goebbels. O'Reilly's Nazi comparisons have not stopped at Goebbels. He equated donating money to MoveOn.org with funding the Nazi Party while also likening those who have called for the withdrawal of troops in Iraq to Nazi appeasers.
* Hannity & Colmes co-host Sean Hannity defended Focus on the Family founder and chairman Dr. James C. Dobson's claim that there is a "relationship" between embryonic stem-cell research and the Nazi experiments conducted on live humans prior to and during the Holocaust.
* Right-wing columnist and frequent Fox News contributor Ann Coulter called Media Matters "little Nazi block watchers," stating: "They tattle on their parents, turn them in to the Nazis."




fucks really wanna start the global warming debate again?? keep paying to get the "clean burning coal' ads and the "CO2 is good" shit... fucking so pissed that idiots would bring politics into Mother Earth and say that it's nothing... to call the guy who is trying to take a lead to do something about it ( no matter who he is) Hitler like?? FUCK that's worse the GS calling bush Hitler on here...


I really hope republicans loose their ass in November... fuck them and their Nazi propaganda... fuck man I'm pissed... I mean how the fuck do you pay people to lie about killing the Earth?? And how to fucks lie about it... I really really hope a huge ass hurricane hits washington... they already fucked florida up enough I'm sure I'm going to have a great hurricane season... FUCK FUCK FUCK... I need to get back to nature and smoke something...

uh, the Co2 is good compaign is being paid for by a Tree Hugger Group, not the GoP..

And Hurricanes only hit Liberal Heavy Areas, like Earthquakes and Fires (California)

wonder who the neo con is??

and global warming is a myth1184??? fuck off...

the clean burning coal campagin isn't ran by Tree Huggers... it's ran by ABEC

Americans for Balanced Energy Choices (ABEC) is a nonprofit group funded by railroads, coal producers and users, and electric utilities. Its sponsors include the utility conglomerate Southern, one of the leading U.S. energy producers, and the American Association of Railroads, whose membership transport coal (Atlanta Journal and Constitution, 4/21/00). ABECâ??s advertisements advocate on behalf of the use of coal.


so if you think your neo con bullshit NAZI propaganda works, think again... you really wanna debate this shit cause i'll go off on this... I'll get banned for this one, I don't give a fuck...

NOTHING is more important than this earth and if you really wanna fight about that I'll be more than happy too... bring as much of your BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA as you can...

you're 0 for 2 right now... any more fucked up claims you wanna make??

and by the way I'm pretty sure there are plenty of right win fucks in Florida, California, and Texas... don't forget ass the Queers from texas as well... hurricanes go that way too...

and you should really learn what a liberal is before you go around calling everyone that...

I'M FUCKING PROUD AS HELL TO BE 100% LIBERAL... Fuck even psycho is 80% liberal...

http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html

Fuck the Neo-Cons! cant say it any better then that..They been busy warmoggering tryin to scare the people into another blind war without end(The Long War, No exit Strategy)Remember that Iran story by some canadian post, saying Irans gonna make the jews wear yellow badges, even one of the jewish newspaper had a picture of what supposed to be Irans president holding a yellow star...Oh man that was sum story im still laughing- neo-con propaganda only works on less then 20% of the people

You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on-GWB

â??You may fool all the people some of the time, you can even fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time

http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/

actually i do think global warming is a myth too. While it is no doubt that our planet is heating up, i dont think its caused by our cars and factories. I heard somewhere that all our cars and factories contribute to about 1% of the Carbon Dioxide in the air. Im not sure though.

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actually i do think global warming is a myth too. While it is no doubt that our planet is heating up, i dont think its caused by our cars and factories. I heard somewhere that all our cars and factories contribute to about 1% of the Carbon Dioxide in the air. Im not sure though.

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glad too see you know what you're talking about...

http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/

http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwa...ent/index.html

http://www.climatehotmap.org/

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming...gerprints.html

http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/default.asp

http://www.stopglobalwarming.org/sgw_partner.asp?376

http://www.globalwarming.net/

that was one page of google search...

I think it's a myth too though... i mean who needs trees anyways...

I just wanna know if this debate is going to go on as long as the creation one... I just don't think God will let global warming go on much longer... she get's kinda pissed about that...

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I'M FUCKING PROUD AS HELL TO BE 100% LIBERAL... Fuck even psycho is 80% liberal...

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LOL...you made my day dude....thought I was gonna piss myself.

It is true, they know it is.....global warming is a serious issue that will have to be confronted. Granted vehicles and factories "contribute" but when the earth is on the warming cycle that added contribution can't be good. Ever watch Perfect Disasters? VERY interesting how they link global warming with the temps of the jet stream...if what they said is true....Great Britain will be in for hell!

Psycho the Liberal....hmmmm....may have to find an avatar to fit.:D

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

There we go....LOL!:D

Gumby, I take back what I said earlier about your being well-mannered and articulate. I've never seen you so foul-mouthed and angry, and I'm sorry to see it happening now.

I get the feeling that you very much want to get your message across. Or perhaps, judging from the length of your posts, you really only want to hear yourself talk. Either way, wouldn't you make more headway without the ugliness? I have to think so.

Psycho..I am laughing soo hard!! Thanks..:thumbsup: change that avatar..hahahaha...though Alabama has been feeling like Global Warming is happening.

That's hysterical, PsychoBud! Made my day, too! Thanks for a good laugh!

I've been holding that one back for a special occasion....glad ya's liked it!!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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Gumby, I take back what I said earlier about your being well-mannered and articulate. I've never seen you so foul-mouthed and angry, and I'm sorry to see it happening now.

I get the feeling that you very much want to get your message across. Or perhaps, judging from the length of your posts, you really only want to hear yourself talk. Either way, wouldn't you make more headway without the ugliness? I have to think so.

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I'm a tree hugger... I love the earth and hold it in the highest respect... to see it treated as a politcal ploy is a fucking joke and to me is the worst offense you can do. I'm not a person for words... i've explianed that before... they are a means to an ends and not a curse or a sin... I am the most pissed off about this, more than anything... it's disgusting...

sorry if it's vulgar but fuck them... Gore isn't even running for anything... it's only to keep the wealthy wealthy and they don't care about anything, you, me and most importantly the Earth.

they tell me I'm a sinner for a lot less... i'm deamed a lot worse in their eyes than they are in mine... and i try to give back to my Earth not kill it... I mean fuck it's our Earth... we don't have another one... and she will kill us long before we ruin her...

I rant cause I'm high... sorry if they are long...



Psycho... glad to see I made you laugh :) ... not a big Clinton fan, but a step in the right way... you should have never showed me your test results... But am glad to see that you see the same problem... sorry about the fucks... I got a new stash and am calm now :rasta:

Wow. Such hostility going on in this thread. lol. I am not a big fan of the neocons either. It seems they want America to be the shining light of the world, which is good in a way, but bad is more ways.

[email protected] don't always agree with you but I like how you express yourself (most of the time)..glad to see you and Psycho both..

I see you as a strong-minded idealist, Gumby, and that's great. And if you're aware at times that you're vulgar, that's probably OK, too. I think with time and maturity, you'll see that it's possible to be passionate and angry about political and environmental matters and still be civil, even when you're baked. And I expect you'll find that you win more converts to your side with civility (and possibly brevity) than with vulgarity. Sorta like attracting more flies with honey than vinegar, only not as silly or sappy as that saying.

I'm an environmentalist, too. And I care deeply about our current disastrous political situation and the fact that a group of really stupid, callous men have lied in order to get us into a war we have no business being in. I'm also a whole lot smarter and more educated than the average Joe. I think the combination of these facts obligates me--and you, too--to rise above the level of common vulgarity and to strive to be as well-mannered as possible and set the standards of communication a little higher.

There are lots of really foul-mouthed, angry, profane folks who converse on these boards, and there are also lots of youngsters and eager-to-learn folks who read these exchanges. It's up to those of us with higher abilities--folks like you, me, the mods, and several others--to set the bar a little higher and raise the level of discourse when and where we can so that this will be a place where civilized, intelligent discussion becomes the norm rather than the exception.

shhhh psyco you cant call it great britain any more m8 were that little island in northern europe,and its already hell,its just gonna be a cold day in hell.

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I see you as a strong-minded idealist, Gumby, and that's great. And if you're aware at times that you're vulgar, that's probably OK, too. I think with time and maturity, you'll see that it's possible to be passionate and angry about political and environmental matters and still be civil, even when you're baked. And I expect you'll find that you win more converts to your side with civility (and possibly brevity) than with vulgarity. Sorta like attracting more flies with honey than vinegar, only not as silly or sappy as that saying.

I'm an environmentalist, too. And I care deeply about our current disastrous political situation and the fact that a group of really stupid, callous men have lied in order to get us into a war we have no business being in. I'm also a whole lot smarter and more educated than the average Joe. I think the combination of these facts obligates me--and you, too--to rise above the level of common vulgarity and to strive to be as well-mannered as possible and set the standards of communication a little higher.

There are lots of really foul-mouthed, angry, profane folks who converse on these boards, and there are also lots of youngsters and eager-to-learn folks who read these exchanges. It's up to those of us with higher abilities--folks like you, me, the mods, and several others--to set the bar a little higher and raise the level of discourse when and where we can so that this will be a place where civilized, intelligent discussion becomes the norm rather than the exception.

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thank you... perfectly stated...

I must say though I did post 4 or 5 threads yesterday and have to say this one has more responses than the others combined :) .... I think I was just in the NeoCon mindset of attack attack attack... It seems to be their only way of getting their word out there and I was just caught up in the moment.

I do try to keep the 'debates' educated and containing facts... which is another reason my posts are lengthy... and will try to go back to that... this one just got to me good...

I am glad that people got a laugh out of it though and hopefully there was more joy taken from my rant than offense...

:cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: What can be more dangerous than a president who is absolutly convinced that it was god's will that he be president. I still cant believe that they jumped all over Clinton for getting head, but Bush has broken the law over and over and over and nobody is making him take responsibility for it. This country is a few small steps away from being a Totalatarian regime, and that scares the shit out of me. Military personnel running civilian agencies? Katrina? (FEMA= Fix Everything My Ass) Iraq? The list goes on and on. Get out and vote...if you dont your part of the problem, not the solution.

"A patriot must be ready to defend his country from his government"
Edward Abbey

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:cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: What can be more dangerous than a president who is absolutly convinced that it was god's will that he be president.

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How about the facist, human-rights depriving dictators in China? The Iranian President who wants to wipe Isreal off the face of the planet? Ethnic-cleansing murderers running amok in Darfur?

This is why I'm still sitting on the fence on global warming. Both sides are still too full of partisan influence. Conservatives can't be trusted because they have a responsibility to keep business thriving. And Liberals sure as hell can't be trusted because they're just as thick-headed and fact-smudging as the neo-cons when they want to prove a point.

I'll watch Gore's movie, nontheless. Could give me a new perspective.

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thank you... perfectly stated... << i like it when Badgirl gives you shit..... I just close my eyes and picture your mommy yelling at you...lol

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Enough with this damn Liberal/Conservative bullshit!! You sound like a bunch of children crying!

You are either for total freedom, or total oppression. America is supposed to stand for total freedom and equality, but Canada is taking America's place as the new freedom loving country in North America. America is becoming too warlike now.

Oh please..what is Canada or any leader or country doing for world peace?? The world has changed..and my only hope is that Israel will do what we should have from the beginning.

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Enough with this damn Liberal/Conservative bullshit!!
Not left or right, right or wrong

You sound like a bunch of children crying!
I have said that to many times to count....lol

You are either for total freedom, or total oppression.
uhhh NO, Thier is a middle ground.... extreamist on either side is bad.

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Enough with this damn Liberal/Conservative bullshit!! Y
You are either for total freedom, or total oppression.

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By that definition, you're either a fanatic Liberal, or a fanatic Conservative.

Thanks for clearing that up. :D