Salvia 20x, never again, trip report and caution

Ok, so I tripped on alot of stuff (2c-e, 2c-i, LSA, mescaline, salvia, and DXM) and so I figured I could handle it now. Before I tell my story, I'll give my tripping records.

2c-e: 35mg
2c-i: 35mg
LSA: 10 HBW seeds
Mescaline: Some green sludge my friend made from cacti, dose unknown
Salvia: 1 bowl 20x
DXM: 900mg (60 gelatin robos)

Ok, so I'm no newbie to the world of tripping as you can see. So, I'm bored/tired with 2 bowls worth of bud and no desire to trip for hours. So, I decided to go with the salvia 20x for tonight. Now, I've tripped on salvia many times and although I never really enjoyed any of the trips because they made my body feel uncontrolled as if something was forcing my body to stay tense, I still continued to do them just because they were something to kill some time and where in a way interesting. The last time I did salvia was about a month ago and it was 1 bowl of 20x which didn't make me trip harder than I could handle. I always had a sense of control and wasn't confused or freaked out. Well, in the last month I've upped my doses for all other kinds of trippers by a significant amount so I figured why not salvia too. I said, if I could handle the hard drugs that make you trip, then salvia should be as it always was, a walk in the park for me. So, I upped my dose to 2 bowls because I wanted a hard, short term trip (I was going for some hallucinations). Here's what happened...

Note: Times are what I believe to be good estimates, cell phone was checked every few minutes out of paranoia and not out of thought to make a trip report later on.

2:15am: Smoked 1 bowl bud, 1 bowl salvia, felt very mild effects as expected.
2:17am: Smoked my 2nd bowl of salvia, started to feel what I used to feel off 1 bowl.
2:18-19am: Body feeling pushed, completely wacked out, extreme patterning, total confusion...but no paranoia or negative feelings.
2:20am: Cell rings, slight paranoia comes about, I answer the phone, it's my friend. He asks me if I want to chill with him and his boys for a night of bud and possibly 2c-i. In total confusion and in a dreamy state, I reply by telling him that I can't because I have work to get done. Obvious lie, immediately detected by my friend who asks, "What work?" After stumbling on words and having the question repeated to me, I answer with, "I gotta work on my web site." My friend at this point is mad at me and tells me, "That's fucked up."
2:21am: I come to the realization that I'm talking to my friend and that it's not a dream. Still confused as hell, but trying to regain control, I tell him the truth...that it's late and I can't just leave my house at the time because it would piss off my parents and they're already mad at me. He tells me he's got to go and he'll talk to me later. At this point, I'm too confused to really tell if he believes me or just thinks that I'm the biggest asshole in the world.
2:23am: I hang up the phone. The call timer tells me that the call was 3 minutes, yet the amount of conversation I remember even now that I'm sober seems to have a possible duration of half that time. What else did I say?
2:24am: I decide to go for a walk around my house untill I sober up and can think straight. I smoke a clove cigarette.
2:27am: My clove is half done, I barely noticed I was smoking it, and now I decide to text my friend back, still confused, noticed myself standing in the middle of the street at times getting caught up in creating my text message. I let my friend kow what happened, how I was to say the least, out of my mind.
2:31am: My clove is done, and now I'm heading inside, but before doing so I check every possible spot for a parked car with people in it around my house, feeling paranoid that someone has broken into my house, has my brother hostage, and is waiting for me to make the mistake of coming inside.
2:35am: After waiting for no reason at all, I finally get the courage to go inside my house, still feeling bad about doing so though.
2:37am: I'm inside and I just placed all my stuff down and I realize I left my bud outside (I hid it while I was paranoid). So, now I go outside to reclaim my bud, feeling only slightly paranoid, but still confused and shocked that this all just happened.
2:38am: I'm back in my house now, feeling sober enough to think but not to feel all that sober if you know what I mean, trying to just calm down and wait out the rest of the effects.

This was the most disturbing trip I have ever encountered with any drug. Being as I never enjoyed a salvia trip, and I just completely freaked out on this one, I do not believe I will ever do it again. I'm going to now attempt to go to sleep after smoking the last bowl of bud I have.

For all those who think of salvia the way I used to think of it, an exagerated drug that isn't as dangerous as people make it out to be, change your thinking or be prepared for a rude awakening one day.

Good thing you stopped smoking that EVIL SHIT. (LOLOLOL!)

Now I'll read your report and see if anything is out of the ordinary.

EDIT: That was an incredibly HARD trip. Thank God you stopped with the Salvia usage... STAY FAR AWAY.

I do salvia lots. I wouldnt reccomend answering the phone on it. Its not a social drug at all.

Set and setting is very important, you must be somewhere where you can relax. Its not very "recreational" because its terrifyingly powerful.

Try this, combine the salvia with the HBW seeds. Dim the lights. Once youre mellowed out on them it will help control the fear and help you to relax. Salvia is best done at the most peaceful times of night, when everyone else is asleep.
Create a short playlist of songs on winamp that you want to trip to, it will be too confusing once youre tripping. Open up the visualizations, settle in, buckle your seatbeats and hit that shit!

you gotta lay back and close your eyes with Salvia otherwise you will get the fuck scared out of you.
its not a "trip"
you can't do it and stay up and walking around
it WILL bring you to other dimensions so how the hell are you gonna go there when you are trying to stay in this reality???
the ego loss when you try to stay will become EXTREME
you will think your body is melting and it will seem real
now if you close your eyes and lay back and just let go you will pass that stage quickly and go into the other dimensions
its not some damn party drug wtf
thats like taking acid and saying "howcome I am not drunk?"

btw
maybe some people see evil shit but the fatc is this....
how can good exist without the evil????
you have to accept this fact because not everything out there is good
theres all kinds of spirits out there that you will see
I have seen evil spirits but they dont scare me because I know they cant harm me
your soul is eternal so dont worry

I love to trip. I love seeing things that aren't there. BUT, going into another dimension is something I couldn't mentally handle. I HAVE to know where I am. I HAVE to know what I'm doing. I HAVE to know that it IS only a trip. This was not the case with salvia. I don't know if 2 bowls of 20x is too much or what, but I felt like I had to FIGHT just to keep grips with the world around me. As confused as I was, I knew where I was and to some extent what I was doing, and maybe even that it was a trip...but something about it just felt WRONG WRONG WRONG. After the trip was completely over, my head was extremely hot, cooked almost. I was dead tired, yet restless (even after smoking a bowl of bud). On top of that, my nose and throat WILL NOT stop burning for shit! I hate salvia so fuckN much after last night.

2 bowls of 20x. you are one crazy fucker. and of course bad trips do exist...especially with salvia.

I just don't know how you even managed to respond to a question...after half a bowl of 20x I just sit there in another world unable to respond to much of anything. And you were walking around? You are like a superhuman.. I tried to get up AFTER the 2-3 minutes of intense effects once and I still fell over and couldn't walk.

But yeah....just quit it, its not like you do it often anyway

yeah thats the thing though
if you were to go to the other dimensions you just might like it
but if you are too scared then Salvia is not for you
try morning glories or peruvian torch cactus then

ya i dont know how you could carry on a conversation with someone after 2 bowls of 20x the shit i get is either alot better or im affected alot more because after a small bowl of my 20x i fell flat on my face started convulsing and drooling with spit bubbles and everything all the while completly unaware of this and thinking i was living life as a cartoon on the side of a frozen vegatable package when i met a sick and dying rabbit lady. also the comment you made about feeling the same effect after 2 bowls as you used to feel from one is kind of strange since salvia has a reverse tolerance, the more you smoke the easier it affects you so it should actually take less the more times you smoke it.

It doesn't even sound like he had a hard trip at all... Just don't smoke Salvia if YOU can't handle being away from reality for a bit.

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Originally Posted by CocaCola

It doesn't even sound like he had a hard trip at all... Just don't smoke Salvia if YOU can't handle being away from reality for a bit.

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yeah some people just arent ready for the truth
Ego can get in the way of a good experience
when that happens it is scary
the trick is to just let go completely and dont be afraid
thats when you can see the other realities and it becomes amazing

usually when I get to the other side I want to stay for a while

Oh man, now I GOTTA try it at least once!

That's pretty weird man. Maybe it wasn't as powerful as some people say because it wasn't really 20x. I said MAYBE. Perhaps if it were actually a lower concentration. That's just a guess from reading. I've never done salvia but I definitely would if I had the chance.

Anyone saying it wasn't that hard of a trip or it wasn't 20x maybe...are dead wrong...I bought it from salviasupply so it's legit...also, the whole point of my story was that the trip was hard as hell...i only stayed in reality because i burnt out my body and brain trying to fight the trip...that's why i didn't leave reality, the dose information is accurate

Probably improper smoking technique, which is USUALLY the case. But whatever the case, if that was too hard for him and he always has a bad trip on Salvia (plus he finds no value in a bad trip, appearently) and he is doing to spend some time, then he really shouldn't be tampering with Salvia.

I'm scared that Salvia is going to be banned soon because EVERY NUMBSKULL wants to try it to see how fucked up it is and to see if they can handle it.

No, you can't handle a Salvia trip at all... and if you want to trip on something you can handle then Salvia isn't the thing for you. So for the love of God, would everyone stop fucking around with the stuff and just leave to the people who know how to enjoy a Salvia trip. You want God to love you, right?!

Here we go again, Nexus the numbskull.......

you arent' experiended AT ALLLLLLLLLLL with the "world of tripping" if all youve done is some shitty RC chemicals HAHA, prolyl gon give you HPPD if you keep it up.

WOW!! youve done DXM! the journey to the drugstore and back with robotussin....eew

You havent even indulged in MUSHROOMS or LSD! the two main psychedelics.......
you shit on mescaline, and now you shit on salvia???

Yo, im sick of you disrespecting these drugs, smoke some ajax powder, maybe thats more up your alley, junkie.

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Originally Posted by CocaCola

I'm scared that Salvia is going to be banned soon because EVERY NUMBSKULL wants to try it to see how fucked up it is and to see if they can handle it.

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It's already been banned here in Missouri and Illinois if I recall correctly. I've also read on erowid that DXM has a pending schedule. The government is a fucking joke.

I was aware of Deleware and Louisiana but it's spreading further? NOO!!!!1 :'(

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Originally Posted by CocaCola

I was aware of Deleware and Louisiana but it's spreading further? NOO!!!!1 :'(

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Ok, now I'm pissed.

Does anybody have any info on other countries?

Tennessee, Oklahoma, Alaska, New Jersey and New York are all pending legislation and I was mistaken about Louisiana... appearently, it's only illegal to posess 40 plants or something to that effect.

You can't even go into salvia with an open-mind, you have to go into it realizing that anything and everything WILL happen. If you try to block any of it out or rule out what's happening to you, you're done for.