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whats up everyone i'm just starting my first grow and i'm germinating my seeds by putting them in a glass of water and letting them sink and crack.....well no seeds have sank in 48 hours yet but one has cracked and i have my taproot at about 1/8 of an inch......should this still be floating?? should I just go ahead and plant it?? sorry if this is a dumb question thats been asked before but i just need to know i want to start it
go ahead and plan it tap root down, when they crack they sink usually.
well could it be that the reason it didn't crack is because the root came out of the side?? does this mean i'm probably gonna have to peel the shell off at some point in the next couple weeks??
no man you wont have to do anything once you plant it just wait for it......
yeah the seed husk will fall off on its own, removing it could be disasterous.
oh, i have heard before that sometimes the shell will stick to the plant sometimes after its sprouted from the soil.......what do i know though...........thats why i'm here..........to learn
the seedling will expand and bust out of the shell on its own
I always just try to crush seeds between my finger and a table to test viability
the ones that are hard are usually good
you can usually just take them and plant them right into wet soil to germinate so you dont risk killing them by handling the taproot
well another question now.......is it going to be OK to use aquafina drinking water for my soil for right now until i can get some RO water tomorrow?? will this harm the seedling?? i don't want to use my tap water because the ground water around here is bad........i don't even want to drink it let alone give it to my plants
Never float seeds for more than 24 hours..
iloveyou
drowning seeds is SAD
iloveyou
what if they are still floating??? is there a chance they've drowned already?? i've read posts of people keeping them in water for up to 72 hours or untill they've all sprouted..........if so will there be any sign that they've gone bad.....change in color or something??
get a little sterile soil, put it in small pot with drainage holes, then take a pencil, poke hole up to where color starts, and drop seed in that hole pigtail (taproot) down. Use tweezers, if you got'em. Then. Lightly cover over top of sprout...spritz lightly every once in a while as soil start to dry out...don't drown it.
for future reference. I just omit the floating thing and stick them right into the soil. BAM spritz lightly and in a couple a 3 days..little seedling..small fan for excercise and coolness, find a good light distance...cfl's are great to start with to learn.
If you knew all that...I'm sorry, Never mind.
lw
P.s. tidbit. I put starters under light right away...I do not subscribe to the darkness theory
thanks for the info latewood, well i got them in soil now so hopefully this works i hope i didn't drown them................so what should the light schedule be for them for starters?? my light is a 250w hps, i really don't know how far to put it but i'd guess from everyone else's posts about a foot and 1/2?? thanks again for the help, i really appreciate it, i'm gonna need all the help I can get so this grow isn't a complete failure :(
18 on 6 off for 1-2 months or 12-18inches...whichever you prefer.
250w hps light distance from canopy... 1-1/2 to 2 feet to start. Once acclimated. You can lower them as low as your fan placement and attention to them on a daily basis will allow.
well you think on it. you should go read the growfaqs and some of the bigger threads, even old threads and find grows that are similar to what you will be limited to...that way you can prepare for problems before they show up in your grow. Make a plan.
lw
right on........well i guess starting in the morning the lights are going to start at the 18/6 at around 1 1/2 foot.
i've actually tore through most of this site reading i think.........my brain has actually started to hurt.............i've been doing this for the past couple weeks, i thought i was prepared but its one thing reading on how to do something and actually doing it the RIGHT WAY.....which is how i want to do it, because i'll sit there and nit pick to the last detail.....its the way i was taught to do things..........so any words of wisdom from seasoned vets are appreciated......i'm done rambling
OK...since you wan to try 1-1/2 feet. you must set you plants where they are going to reside...make adjusment to the height of your 250w (keep light off until you have it secured where it will ride!!! very important). You do not want shards of....how does Zandor put it???shards of 10,000 degree glass in your face...lol, NO seriously!
Once you have lamp in place plug in-turn on, wait a few minutes until the lamp is all warmed up and glowing 100%
Now place your hand...as close to canopy(top of plant) as you can get it. If the back of your hand get's hot...You are too close! move lamp up 6"...It is better to have it a little farther away and stretch a teeny tiny bit...than it is too try and get light too CLOSE & MELT THEM!!! personally, I wouldn't put a 250w closer than 2-2-12 feet to start with after thinking it through, some more. Really...nitpick on that for the night...later
lw
well when i was testing my room to see the temps and everything i did the "hand test" and i was holding my hand up to 6" away and it wasn't too warm at all, but i guess i don't know what is too warm for a plant.........this was after about 6 or 7 hours of running...........also i put the sensor (i don't know what its called) for my thermometer about 8" directly under the bulb and at the absolute warmest that its got is 84 degree's...........what do you think??
tweezers.... lol
sissy...
iloveyou
hey...It's in the book...lol:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Garden Knowm
seriously...I read a few times that it was not a good idea to handle beans any more than absolutely necessary, which is none...imho
I found tweezers awhile back and it is kinda 'mad scientist' to pik seed out of bunch with tweezers and placing seed perfectly on it's side and covering...hehhehhhehhhehh:cool: :smokin:
I just had 9 out of 9 sprout...in r'wool...1st time I placed seed directly in 1"x1" r'wool starters* and put them in dome...all 9 standing at attention this AM...Under 45w corkscrew CFL.
*r'wool starters had been soaking in Swampwater for a week, since doing cloning in r'wool
Watch for; I wish I knew how to use rockwool to start my seeds/clones..., thread, where I will share my learning experience.
lw
first of all... what do you mean you found some tweezers... you are probably using the same ones you have in you medicine cabnet that you use to pluck your eyebrows and other unwanted hair... fess up wood.....lol
I like sprouting seeds in rockwool...
congrats on the the new crew of babies... may you be the proud father of 8 ladies.....
iloveyou
well latewood i hope i have the same luck in the next couple of days with my 4 babies.........i used tweezers but i'm worried that i over/underwatered or didn't pack the soil to tight or did it too loose or just plain screwed everything up.........hopefully this is just the usual pothead paranoia
fessin' up!!! I really used them to pluck pube's out my ASS, after I shaved my balls...LMAO:D :D :D :D ;)
naw...actually, I think I am senile...losin' shit all the time..really, I was going through some junk and found them...hehhehhehhehhwe need an emoticon that laugh's it's ass off!!!
maybe it's the MMJ...:stoned:
OUCH!!! :eek: :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by latewood
never pull it apart!!! let nature take it's course...worse thing that happens is top deforms a bit...gives plant character...:smokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by killakalimist
alrighty latewood got another question for ya.........i get home from work tonight and see that 1 and 1/2 (i will explain this) plants out of 4 have started to come up above soil level.....
plant #1......well what can i say, went to work came home and all of a sudden i got a 1/4 inch or better sprout.......it started to go up strait then its got like a 45 degree angle in it now with the shell still on it.....i'm guessing thats the weight of the shell pulling it down maybe?? then in the soil there was some stuff that kind of looked like a spiderweb.........out of 4 cups only the one has it and its my best looking (and really only) sprout......what is this??
plant #2 this is where the 1/2 comes in.....well where do i begin this was the first seed to germinate and was my pride and joy for about 6 hours until the 2nd one germinated........she TRIED to pop up above the soil but it looks like something is holding it down because its just a big arch coming out of the soil.........no top wish i had a picture for ya to see cuz i don't know if you'll understand what i'm saying.......is this normal will it grow out of it????
if anyone can help me out that would be GREAT!!! lates
laughing,,,but not at your expense...LOL
1st off alright! Now you are growing...
2nd If a sprout is growing at an angle...It is usually because plant is angling/growing towards the light...I don't worry about the little things like that.
the other sprout was upside down and the taproot came up...realized it was not a groundhog...and is noe digging it's was back underground...like a corkscrew. No worry...let it take it's course...///big Note: you might be able to gently, turnbit around, but you could damage it...It is a judgement call...I did it once, because the sprout climbed right out of the rapid rooter I started in. In fact it is the C99xNL5 I am growing.??? let me know, if this helps.
lw
good deal.........well she's still growing at an angle but 1/2 the shell has fallen off :thumbsup: and the other one..........she's lookin GREAT i decided last night as you say just let it take its course and this morning i got a nice little sprout so ...............i'll be starting a thread here shortly logging my grow so i hope your gonna be able to help me out with this one latewood........if nothin else check it out...........i'll probably start it tomorrow........lates
I just had the husk pulled off of a killer strain I have been saving...I took a couple pix and as it dies...I will show you why you don't pull the husk off. bummed...I had saved them, but when I took them out they got damaged...Crap!!!
Oh well.
just another quick question..........i started out with some (shitty i'm guessing) soil from wally-world because i'm very low on money........but when time comes to transplant would it shock the plants if I threw them in some foxfarm soil?? i just don't see the soil i have being too good..........will this make a major difference since its my first grow?
yes, you can...I have grown many with wally's 1.99 sterile top soil...I mix it with 35-40% perlite @wallys for 2.99
and peatmoss, just to soften it up a bit. also about 2.99
so it is up to you...
Foxfarm is great stuff, but if money is tight you will be fine...just don't but miracle gro. lw
right on........well i mixed probably 30% perlite (from walmart) but no peatmoss and my soil is kinda hard but i guess its too late to do that..........also how much water should i be giving these things?? i've been trying to keep the soil moist and giving them water every morning...........but i read somewhere that watering everyday like that can make them rootbound, is this right?? should i increase the water so i only do it every couple days?? i know that when they are bigger that i'm only supposed to give them water to make it for 3 or so days..........i'm in the dark on seedlings though.................peace
alright, out of 4 seeds 3 have made it this far........but i am concerned about one of them, its first set of true leaves don't look healthy, i wish i had some pics but i don't have a camera so i'm gonna hafta wait for my roommate tonight to get some pics. they are very ridged looking and not open at all.........they look like the edges were glued together on the top side..........i'm sure that is a bad description but thats the best i can do for now...........any feedback would be great
I water my soil plants every 2-3 days...pour water in pot until it overflows 10-15%...don't water again until top is dry and you have to poke your finger in topsoil to find a bit of moisture.Quote:
Originally Posted by killakalimist
root bound is when you have let your plant outgrow it's little pot...It won't kill your plant, but will stifle growth and yield...
so, I repot 1-2 times depending on whether or not I
am using clones or seedling...Clones 1x---seedlings 2x
1st you have starters or small 2-4" pot...after you get 4-5
sets of true leaves, you can repot into 1 gallon pots,
(if seedlings you pot in 4" pots as soon a roots begin to show through...)
Just before bloom stage. than I repot to a 2-3 gallon pot...
clones 2---seedlings 3 (they generally take longer to finish)
The rule of thumb is simple. Use as many a gallon pot as months you are going to grow...
hope this helps
lw
here are pics of one of my plants.........2 of them look like this (the other isn't quite as big), the 3rd looks beautiful..........conditions are the same for all of them........about 1 1/2ft-2ft from my 250w hps, watered about every 2 days.........is this something i screwed up?? the leaves started out looking like this, they never did look healthy, they have been curled up so that what should be the tops of the leaves wasn't even open.................:confused:
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