Bin Laden: Moussaoui not linked to 9/11

CAIRO, Egypt - Osama bin Laden purportedly said in an audio tape Tuesday that Zacarias Moussaoui - the only person convicted in the U.S. for the Sept. 11 attacks - had nothing to do with the operation.

"He had no connection at all with Sept. 11," the speaker, claiming to be bin Laden, said in the tape posted on the Internet.

"I am the one in charge of the 19 brothers and I never assigned brother Zacarias to be with them in that mission," he said, referring to the 19 hijackers.

The al-Qaida chief said the Sept. 11 hijackers were divided into two groups, "pilots and assistants."

"Since Zacarias Moussaoui was still learning how to fly, he wasn't No. 20 in the group, as your government has claimed," bin Laden said. "It knows this very well," he added.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...d/14650237.htm

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"I am the one in charge of the 19 brothers and I never assigned brother Zacarias to be with them in that mission," he said, referring to the 19 hijackers.

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Glad to see you finally realize that Osama was behind this. Guess you finally watched the right video!!:D

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

see... the logical fallicies psycho... got to learn them...

but using your logic, glad to see you don't think moussaoui was guilty...

you see how ignorant you sound... now let's use real logic ok..


Maybe it means that the guy the US is trying to blame for 9/11 isn't the right giy and we should hold a real trial, where real information is allowed and the truth is not kept classified... why not just say - let's learn everything.... tell us what happened and who was involved instead of 'leaking' information you wish us to know... Our government should never, nor ever need to keep the information secrect from it's people... that's what a dictator does... not a land of free men...

so please stop trying to use every bit of information you can spin to prove your side and just instead try to learn as much as you can?? that is why you are ignorant and why people hate america... you are blindly following a dictator and are too dumb to realize it...

i still belive amerikkka did it so that there would be a so called legitimite reason to go in afghanistan, after all amerikkka did train osama bin ladden because they wanted to have someone in the east who knew the east in case they[amerikkka] needed to invade russia. but how did your great amerikkka wind up in iraq, and why is gas so high now??$$$ i don`t think these good ol amerikkkan christians like the fact that muslims don`t belive that thier so-called prophet [who was NOT sent to any other people except the jews] jesus son of mary to be divine, or that muslims belive that you only have to worship the ONE that created you, no confusing three in one[trinity]which the bible NEVER speaks about, EVER!

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see... the logical fallicies psycho... got to learn them...

but using your logic, glad to see you don't think moussaoui was guilty...

you see how ignorant you sound... now let's use real logic ok.....

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WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!!! LOL

NO! Osama didn't have nothing to do with it....him and 19 tin foil high jackers with box cutters couldn't have done it!!!

HEY.....Osama says that Moussaoui is innocent! Since OSAMA planned and made the execution of this possible he KNOWS!!!


And I'm the idiot??? LOL
Whatever news story fits your agenda I guess.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

so do you believe Bin Laden or Bush??

that is why you are ignorant, an idiot and illogical

Noted your post on Osama. Had you seen the vid before?

BTW. Nice post.

Ed

it's in my sig... :)

yea... have you seen the 9/11 eyewitness video?? I liked it much better than loose change... it was the finial video that swayed me because of the unbiasedness of it... just facts and nothing more... nothing more needed i guess though...

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it's in my sig... :)

yea... have you seen the 9/11 eyewitness video?? I liked it much better than loose change... it was the finial video that swayed me because of the unbiasedness of it... just facts and nothing more... nothing more needed i guess though...

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Thanks. I'm on it.

Ed

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it's in my sig... :)

yea... have you seen the 9/11 eyewitness video?? I liked it much better than loose change... it was the finial video that swayed me because of the unbiasedness of it... just facts and nothing more... nothing more needed i guess though...

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all lefty circle jerk........


gumby im glad to see you admit that osama was behind 9-11.

i knew you would get the right deprograming.

what do you fucks not understand about logic??

you are so ignorant it's not worth trying to talk to you...

seriously...you're stupid... not trying to be mean, or call you names... you are dumb in the sense that it is worthless trying to talk because you cannot. you are that stupid, so please, just try to learn something... anything... read something... try something new... educate yourself...

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Originally Posted by Gumby

what do you fucks not understand about logic??

you are so ignorant it's not worth trying to talk to you...

seriously...you're stupid... not trying to be mean, or call you names... you are dumb in the sense that it is worthless trying to talk because you cannot. you are that stupid, so please, just try to learn something... anything... read something... try something new... educate yourself...

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Thats what we are trying to tell you!!!!!

nope... i'm rubber and you're glue what ever you says bounces off me and sticks to you...

i can play you 2 year old bullshit too...

THIS is just hilarious!!! ANY Osama tape released is ALWAYS an act of the CIA-duh according to these folk but when it fits their agenda it's "Hey, guess what, Osama said.........."

Keep it up gents.......sittin' back, catchin' a good buzz, your makin' the high a good one!!! Haven't laughed like this for a while now!:D

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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CAIRO, Egypt - Osama bin Laden purportedly said in an audio tape Tuesday that Zacarias Moussaoui - the only person convicted in the U.S. for the Sept. 11 attacks - had nothing to do with the operation.

"He had no connection at all with Sept. 11," the speaker, claiming to be bin Laden, said in the tape posted on the Internet.

"I am the one in charge of the 19 brothers and I never assigned brother Zacarias to be with them in that mission," he said, referring to the 19 hijackers. <<<right there GUMBY FUCK, is posting that osama was in charge of the 19 highjackers. that you dumb fucks claim that are still alive.

The al-Qaida chief said the Sept. 11 hijackers were divided into two groups, "pilots and assistants." he is admitting 1st degree murder....premeditiaon....dumb fucks

"Since Zacarias Moussaoui was still learning how to fly, he wasn't No. 20 in the group, as your government has claimed," bin Laden said. "It knows this very well," he added. He was convicted by a jury of his peers....good enough for me

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...d/14650237.htm

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Come on gumby fuck...............spin that shit bitch

It blows all you bullshit out of the fucking water....

if osama did it..............BUSH didnt and your hate for bush, is way bigger than your love for america...........asshole

Isnt it funny how this NEW VIDEO came out exactly 24 hours after a Zogby poll ended and showed that over 50% of Americans think there was a 9/11 cover up?

Come on... it's in the CIA's own documents that Bin Laden worked for them in the 70's and 80's. For some reason Bin Laden can make a new tape every couple of months but we still can't catch him?

The official 9/11 story has totally been debunked.

One thing I don't understand about any of the videos coming out with Osama in them.... look at his nose. Osama Bin Laden has a very narrow, skinny, boney nose and face. The guy in the video has a wide nose with large nostrils. Also, he's wearing a gold ring... followers of Islam don't wear gold rings. Plus the guy in all the videos is eating/signing with his right hand, Osama is left handed.

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Come on gumby fuck...............spin that shit bitch

It blows all you bullshit out of the fucking water....

if osama did it..............BUSH didnt and your hate for bush, is way bigger than your love for america...........asshole

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you idiot... did you happen to notice to quotes?? did you happen to notice the link?? it's called an article... they write them in newspapers and people read them to gain more information... that is why I posted it here...

it wasn't written by my, thought up by me, created by me, crapped out of my ass or any other illogical way you think that I was the creator of the first post... it was copied....

therefor you illogical fuck, I didn't say Osama did it and Bush did it... something I specifically said after Psycho did the same thing you are... \

" see... the logical fallicies psycho... got to learn them...

but using your logic, glad to see you don't think moussaoui was guilty...

you see how ignorant you sound... now let's use real logic ok..


Maybe it means that the guy the US is trying to blame for 9/11 isn't the right giy and we should hold a real trial, where real information is allowed and the truth is not kept classified... why not just say - let's learn everything.... tell us what happened and who was involved instead of 'leaking' information you wish us to know... Our government should never, nor ever need to keep the information secrect from it's people... that's what a dictator does... not a land of free men...

so please stop trying to use every bit of information you can spin to prove your side and just instead try to learn as much as you can?? that is why you are ignorant and why people hate america... you are blindly following a dictator and are too dumb to realize it..."

you see.... if you could read you would have seen this already and would understand how stupid you are... but you couldn't read this one either...

"what do you fucks not understand about logic??

you are so ignorant it's not worth trying to talk to you...

seriously...you're stupid... not trying to be mean, or call you names... you are dumb in the sense that it is worthless trying to talk because you cannot. you are that stupid, so please, just try to learn something... anything... read something... try something new... educate yourself..."

so after you try to read something and form a rational thought come back and try again...

ok fuck face....

osama admits it and you still dont beleive him..... WHY you ask?


Cause it doesnt fit the rest of you bullshit................



Lets do have a trial gumby.... bring out all the facts and if bush is behind it.... lock him up.


MY BEEF WITH YOU ASSHOLES IS THAT, YOUR HATE FOR BUSH IS BIGGER THAN YOUR LOVE FOR AMERICA.

I HATE BUSH TOO....BUT I LOVE MY COUNTRY.

YOU ARE THE ONE THAT NEED EDUCATION GUMBY....

OSAMA ON TAPE SAYS HE WAS INVOLVED...... YOU DONT BELEIVE HIM..


BUT IF BUSH SAID IT WAS IT WAS HIM YOU WOULD BELEIVE THAT....

DOUBLE STANDARD, BRAIN WASHED, AMERICA HATING, COCK SUCKER ........

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ok fuck face....

osama admits it and you still dont beleive him..... WHY you ask?


Cause it doesnt fit the rest of you bullshit................



Lets do have a trial gumby.... bring out all the facts and if bush is behind it.... lock him up.


MY BEEF WITH YOU ASSHOLES IS THAT, YOUR HATE FOR BUSH IS BIGGER THAN YOUR LOVE FOR AMERICA.

I HATE BUSH TOO....BUT I LOVE MY COUNTRY.

YOU ARE THE ONE THAT NEED EDUCATION GUMBY....

OSAMA ON TAPE SAYS HE WAS INVOLVED...... YOU DONT BELEIVE HIM..


BUT IF BUSH SAID IT WAS IT WAS HIM YOU WOULD BELEIVE THAT....

DOUBLE STANDARD, BRAIN WASHED, AMERICA HATING, COCK SUCKER ........

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"what do you fucks not understand about logic??

you are so ignorant it's not worth trying to talk to you...

seriously...you're stupid... not trying to be mean, or call you names... you are dumb in the sense that it is worthless trying to talk because you cannot. you are that stupid, so please, just try to learn something... anything... read something... try something new... educate yourself..."

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Originally Posted by Gumby

"what do you fucks not understand about logic??

you are so ignorant it's not worth trying to talk to you...

seriously...you're stupid... not trying to be mean, or call you names... you are dumb in the sense that it is worthless trying to talk because you cannot. you are that stupid, so please, just try to learn something... anything... read something... try something new... educate yourself..."

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read this asshole....

Bin Laden Says Moussaoui Not Part of Sept. 11 Attacks
Also Claims None of the Hundreds Held at Guantanamo Bay Was Involved
By MAAMOUN YOUSSEF, AP



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CAIRO, Egypt (May 24) - Osama bin Laden purportedly said in an audio tape Tuesday that neither Zacarias Moussaoui - the only person convicted in the U.S. for the Sept. 11 attacks - nor anyone held at Guantanamo had anything to do with the al-Qaida operation.

"He had no connection at all with Sept. 11," the speaker claiming to be bin Laden said in the tape posted on the Internet.

"I am the one in charge of the 19 brothers and I never assigned brother Zacarias to be with them in that mission," he said, referring to the 19 hijackers. <<<<he admits it right there dumb ass

Two counterterrorism officials in Washington, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said U.S. intelligence is aware of the bin Laden message. One of the officials said there is no reason to doubt its authenticity.

Bin Laden also said that none of the hundreds of terror suspects held at the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, was involved and most had no ties to al-Qaida.

"Our brothers in Guantanamo ... have no connection whatsoever to the events of Sept. 11," he said, adding that "some of them oppose al-Qaida's methods of calling to fight America."

Bin Laden called all the detainees innocent, claiming they were jailed to justify the cost of the war on terror.

"There must be some justification for the tremendous spending of hundreds of billions of dollars on the (U.S.) defense department and other agencies," he said. <<<sounds like your dumb ass, cant have it bolth ways

The terror mastermind did indicate that two suspects had links to the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon:<<<<right there admittts pentagon "All the prisoners to date have no connection to the Sept. 11 events or knew anything about them, except for two of the brothers," bin Laden said. But he did not provide names or elaborate further and it wasn't possible to determine if or where they were held.

One of the counterterror officials said the message is part of bin Laden 's continuing effort to demonstrate he is a relevant extremist leader, who is knowledgeable of current events. The official said the message was made for propaganda purposes, and it does not contain any threats. <<<that a change


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Moussaoui, a 37-year-old Frenchman and admitted al-Qaida member, was sentenced to life in prison earlier this month after a jury ruled that he was responsible for at least one death on Sept. 11.

The al-Qaida chief said the Sept. 11 hijackers were divided into two groups, "pilots and assistants." 1st degree

"Since Zacarias Moussaoui was still learning how to fly,he was part of the next attack then he wasn't No. 20 in the group, as your government has claimed," bin Laden said.

He continued that Moussaoui was not a security risk for al-Qaida, because he did not have knowledge of the plot.

"Brother Moussaoui was arrested two weeks before the events, and if he had known something - even very little - about the Sept. 11 group, we would have informed the leader of the operation, Mohammad Atta,<<<<<right there admits it again and the others ... to leave America before being discovered," Bin Laden said.

Bin Laden said Moussaoui's confession - that he helped plan the attacks - was "void," calling it the result of pressures during imprisonment.

Edward MacMahon, <<<<will you listen to this guy?one of the lawyers who defended Moussaoui during his death penalty trial, said bin Laden wouldn't have made the best witness for his client, even with his statements that Moussaoui had no role in the attacks.

"I never believed there was any evidence to support Moussaoui's story (that he was the 20th highjacker), and that's what I told the jury," he said.

The audio message, which is less than five minutes long, was transmitted with a still photo of bin Laden .

If authentic, it would be the third by bin Laden this year. In a tape aired on Arab television in April, he denounced the United States and Europe for cutting off funds to the Hamas-led Palestinian government, accusing them of leading a "Zionist" war on Islam, and urged followers to fight any U.N. peacekeeping force in Sudan.

In January, bin Laden said in an audiotape that al-Qaida was preparing new attacks in the United States but offered a truce _ though his lieutenant Ayman al-Zawahri later issued a video saying Washington had refused to take the offer.

The January message was bin Laden's first in over a year, his longest period of silence since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks in the United States.

His deputy al-Zawahri releases messages more frequently, appearing in videotapes, while bin Laden has not appeared in a video since October 2004.

Bin Laden did mentioned by name two journalists and a relief worker accused of being aligned to the terror network, saying they had no such ties. Sami al-Hajj, an Al-Jazeera cameraman, was arrested in Afghanistan in 2001 and held at Guantanamo Bay. Tayssir Alouni, an Al-Jazeera correspondent, was convicted by a Spanish court of collaborating with al-Qaida, though he denied the charges. And Abdul Aziz al-Matrafi, who founded an Afghan charity that was branded by the U.S. as supporting terror.


where is my logic wrong gumby?


you wont even believe the horses mouth..........no hope for you:(

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you idiot... did you happen to notice to quotes?? did you happen to notice the link?? it's called an article... they write them in newspapers and people read them to gain more information... that is why I posted it here...

it wasn't written by my, thought up by me, created by me, crapped out of my ass or any other illogical way you think that I was the creator of the first post... it was copied....

therefor you illogical fuck, I didn't say Osama did it and Bush did it... something I specifically said after Psycho did the same thing you are... \

" see... the logical fallicies psycho... got to learn them...

but using your logic, glad to see you don't think moussaoui was guilty...

you see how ignorant you sound... now let's use real logic ok..


Maybe it means that the guy the US is trying to blame for 9/11 isn't the right giy and we should hold a real trial, where real information is allowed and the truth is not kept classified... why not just say - let's learn everything.... tell us what happened and who was involved instead of 'leaking' information you wish us to know... Our government should never, nor ever need to keep the information secrect from it's people... that's what a dictator does... not a land of free men...

so please stop trying to use every bit of information you can spin to prove your side and just instead try to learn as much as you can?? that is why you are ignorant and why people hate america... you are blindly following a dictator and are too dumb to realize it..."

you see.... if you could read you would have seen this already and would understand how stupid you are... but you couldn't read this one either...

"what do you fucks not understand about logic??

you are so ignorant it's not worth trying to talk to you...

seriously...you're stupid... not trying to be mean, or call you names... you are dumb in the sense that it is worthless trying to talk because you cannot. you are that stupid, so please, just try to learn something... anything... read something... try something new... educate yourself..."

so after you try to read something and form a rational thought come back and try again...

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keep saying Bush was right for convicting Moussoui and that Bin Laden was right because he sayd Moussoui didn't do it... you're a fucking idiot and don't even understand why I think you are although I've posted it 4 times in the same thread...

stop posting... not being mean, just honestly take about an hour and read something... get an understanding about what I am talking about and them come back...

here learn some of these too...
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/

yea i took logic in college thanks gumby.....

what im saying is..... put Massoui on the back burner for a min for egt him a second..

then what was osama saying? he was in charge of the 19.... are you saying that he is lieing? (im just trying to understand your view cause i dont see it)

i just found an article... that's all this thread was meant for... but you and Psycho both took posting an article as me believing that Bin Laden was involved and that Moussoui was not....


what would you like to know about my POV?? I believe that I have stated my stance and oponion on the Moussoui case, Bin Laden and Bush many of times before... But I am use to your ignorance so I will be happy to post anything you would like agian, becuase my views dont' depend on what others think... they stay the same unless I learn other information.

Moussoui - fall man for 9/11 had nothing to do with it... was used to distract people like you from caring about the real people who were involed... and why you still think it's good that he is convicted...

Bin Laden - works with Bush, Not sure of his involvement in 9/11 - OUR government won't tell us, but they have worked together and I find it quite odd that we can capture Sadam, the man who had nothing to do with 9/11.

Bush - guilty of a lot of things... I'm guessing you want to know about 9/11... I think he is involved and behind a lot of the planning it took and is the Hitler of the American Far Right Religious Movement...

does that clear it up for you?? IF you not you can look at anything I have posted here... ME something I wrote... not quoted from a paper... that is what I believe..

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Originally Posted by Gumby

i just found an article... that's all this thread was meant for... but you and Psycho both took posting an article as me believing that Bin Laden was involved and that Moussoui was not....


what would you like to know about my POV?? I believe that I have stated my stance and oponion on the Moussoui case, Bin Laden and Bush many of times before... But I am use to your ignorance so I will be happy to post anything you would like agian, becuase my views dont' depend on what others think... they stay the same unless I learn other information.

Moussoui - fall man for 9/11 had nothing to do with it... was used to distract people like you from caring about the real people who were involed... and why you still think it's good that he is convicted...

Bin Laden - works with Bush, Not sure of his involvement in 9/11 - OUR government won't tell us, but they have worked together and I find it quite odd that we can capture Sadam, the man who had nothing to do with 9/11.

Bush - guilty of a lot of things... I'm guessing you want to know about 9/11... I think he is involved and behind a lot of the planning it took and is the Hitler of the American Far Right Religious Movement...

does that clear it up for you?? IF you not you can look at anything I have posted here... ME something I wrote... not quoted from a paper... that is what I believe..

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ahhh i forgot you thought OBL was on that take..now it understand your view atleast.... wrong as it my be.

and your logical view??

i was taking him at his word.... OBL said he was in charge of them. I was believing him. I forgot you thought he was on the take ...seriously