Confessions Of An Iraqi War Veteran

Confessions Of An Iraqi War Veteran

"What we are doing over there is wrong"

Jessie Macbeth -Former Army Ranger and Iraq War Veteran, Tell it like it is
"She was begging me, begging me to save her and to save her kids, but, I didn't you know. I wanted to be , ah, I killed them. You know?

This 20 minute video will change your life. Click here to watch
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle13140.htm

I had read a slightly earlier version of the interogation techniques being used where they take a family and ask the father a question. If they didn't like the answer, they shot one of his family in the head and continued down the line until there was no one left. I can't watch this after that.

Ed

you beat me to it, i was just about to post this...

yeah, pretty disturbing...

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you beat me to it, i was just about to post this...

yeah, pretty disturbing...

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regarding the interogation techniques? I read it somewhere and can not find it now. Is this the same one?

The soldier stated it could have been somebody that didn't even know anything to begin with. The article was out yesterday. Like Guantanmo, the soldiers will wind up taking the rap for what they were most assuredly ordered to do.

Ed

Ex -US soldier: 'If he didn't answer the way we liked, we would shoot his youngest kid in the head'

Live Journal | May 23 2006

Jessie Macbeth, a Former Army Ranger and Iraq War Veteran Tells All

This 20 minute interview will change how you view the U.S. occupation of Iraq forever. I cannot possibly recommend this more highly. An Iraq war veteran tells of atrocities he and other fellow-soldiers committed reguarly while in Iraq. I have never seen this level of honesty from a U.S. soldier who directly participated in the slaughtering of Iraqis.

Excerpts:

"When we were doing the night raids in the houses, we would pull people out and have them all on their knees and zip-tied. We would ask the man of the house questions. If he didn't answer the way we liked, we would shoot his youngest kid in the head. We would keep going, this was our interrogation. He could be innocent. He could be just an average Joe trying to support his family. If he didn't give us a satisfactory answer, we'd start killing off his family until he told us something. If he didn't know anything, I guess he was SOL."

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"For not speaking out, I feel like I'm betraying my battle-buddies that died."

The little blurb I read made me kinda think this is the one. I don't know why I did not transport that article from yesterday. This one really got to me I guess.

Ed

want to take that story off the lead line.

Across central Iraq, there is an exodus of people fleeing for their
lives as sectarian assassins and death squads hunt them down. At
ground level, Iraq is disintegrating as ethnic cleansing takes hold on
a massive scale.
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle13139.htm

What have we become? We The People are allowing this because we are too lazy, too afraid or just too stupid. We can cry it's our government. But, IT IS WE THE PEOPLE ALLOWING IT.

Ed

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Confessions Of An Iraqi War Veteran

"What we are doing over there is wrong"

Jessie Macbeth -Former Army Ranger and Iraq War Veteran, Tell it like it is
"She was begging me, begging me to save her and to save her kids, but, I didn't you know. I wanted to be , ah, I killed them. You know?

This 20 minute video will change your life. Click here to watch
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle13140.htm

I had read a slightly earlier version of the interogation techniques being used where they take a family and ask the father a question. If they didn't like the answer, they shot one of his family in the head and continued down the line until there was no one left. I can't watch this after that.

Ed

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If this dude did this he should get court marshalled like the other 100 or better have. Seems awfull funny he'd give such a confession.

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Originally Posted by Ed Ward MD

want to take that story off the lead line.

Across central Iraq, there is an exodus of people fleeing for their
lives as sectarian assassins and death squads hunt them down. At
ground level, Iraq is disintegrating as ethnic cleansing takes hold on
a massive scale.
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle13139.htm

What have we become? We The People are allowing this because we are too lazy, too afraid or just too stupid. We can cry it's our government. But, IT IS WE THE PEOPLE ALLOWING IT.

Ed

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The first indicator is refugees. During bad times, Iraqis have fled, or attempted to flee, the country en masse. Since the toppling of Saddam Hussein, however, more than 1.2 million Iraqis have returned. Yet our MSM fixates on the relatively small number of Iraqis who have moved from one location in Iraq to another due to sectarian violence.
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=66386

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

If this dude did this he should get court marshalled like the other 100 or better have. Seems awfull funny he'd give such a confession.

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LETS TRY HIM, FIND HIM GUILTY, AND HANG HIM


that was easy......shit

I watched the vid.....dude keeps looking all over the place instead of at the interviewer.....signs of not quite telling the truth! I had a buddy that always used to say you can tell a dude is lieing if he looks off to the left.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

The orders didn't come down from the top. There was no coverup. This group of soldiers just did it. What a pile of crapola. Can hardly wait till the fascists come in to ask you and p4 questions. But, of course, it will only be the individual soldiers fault, not the scum in charge.

Ed Ward, MD

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The orders didn't come down from the top. There was no coverup. This group of soldiers just did it. What a pile of crapola. Can hardly wait till the fascists come in to ask you and p4 questions. But, of course, it will only be the individual soldiers fault, not the scum in charge.

Ed Ward, MD

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Seriously though, if our people went into that country under the directive that was described, don't you think that the press...such as Al-Jazeera would have it front page day after day?

Yes, I believe we cleaned out houses looking for insurgents

Yes, I believe we bound their hands when suspected of being insurgents and the families were on their knees for our/and their own protection

NO, we weren't ORDERED to plug a kid in the head with a M-16

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

I watched the vid.....dude keeps looking all over the place instead of at the interviewer.....signs of not quite telling the truth! I had a buddy that always used to say you can tell a dude is lieing if he looks off to the left.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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Wow, what med school did your "buddy" go to? Must have specialized in psych, huh? Or was it CIA training. LOL. you are lying when you look to the left. HE, LARRY, US. Shame is but one of the reasons people can not look you in the eye or the camera. But, I'm sure you and your buddy know more about that than I would. Perhaps you could sell your services to some lie detector firm. "Of course he is lying. He looked to the left". Oops, but, then they wouldn't need your services anymore. Perhaps that is the test the CIA uses to train. If he looks to the left, shoot the kid in head.

KARMA, KARMA, KARMA, KARMACAMILLION.

Ed Ward, MD

And the soldiers at our Cuban Concentration camp did it all on their own too.
There is NO PRESSURE to end this war, coming from the top, BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

BS.

Ed Ward, MD

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Seriously though, if our people went into that country under the directive that was described, don't you think that the press...such as Al-Jazeera would have it front page day after day?

Yes, I believe we cleaned out houses looking for insurgents

Yes, I believe we bound their hands when suspected of being insurgents and the families were on their knees for our/and their own protection

NO, we weren't ORDERED to plug a kid in the head with a M-16

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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Wow, what med school did your "buddy" go to? Must have specialized in psych, huh? Or was it CIA training. LOL. you are lying when you look to the left. HE, LARRY, US. Shame is but one of the reasons people can not look you in the eye or the camera. But, I'm sure you and your buddy know more about that than I would. Perhaps you could sell your services to some lie detector firm. "Of course he is lying. He looked to the left". Oops, but, then they wouldn't need your services anymore. Perhaps that is the test the CIA uses to train. If he looks to the left, shoot the kid in head.

KARMA, KARMA, KARMA, KARMACAMILLION.

Ed Ward, MD

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LOL...this is actually pretty common knowledge. You must not have children.

â?¢ A person who is lying to you will avoid making eye contact.
http://www.blifaloo.com/info/lies.php

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Actually it's common knowledge in the world of rhetoric that almost all the time that people are lying they unknowingly glance to the left, he's not making it up.

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And the soldiers at our Cuban Concentration camp did it all on their own too.
There is NO PRESSURE to end this war, coming from the top, BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

BS.

Ed Ward, MD

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This is a little off topic from what the thread started as but what the hell....

As far as I'm personally concerned, I could really give a crap one way or the other on how the rights of the Al-Quada/Taliban prisoners at Club Gitmo are being violated.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

is lying. What about people that are self conscious AND NEVER LOOK ANYONE IN THE EYE. Must be all liars all the time?

And therefore anyone looking you in the eye, or camera, or whatever you want to substitute is a liar.

What a crock of BS. There are people that can look you in the eye, be hooked up to a lie detector AND YOU WILL NEVER KNOW THEY ARE LYING. But, again, I'm sure you know more about this than me. After all, your buddy told you. Here's a link for you.

A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Ed Ward, MD

shit about others rights or their deaths. Again, can hardly wait till they question you using your infallible looking to the left theory.

Ed Ward, MD

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This is a little off topic from what the thread started as but what the hell....

As far as I'm personally concerned, I could really give a crap one way or the other on how the rights of the Al-Quada/Taliban prisoners at Club Gitmo are being violated.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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is lying. What about people that are self conscious AND NEVER LOOK ANYONE IN THE EYE. Must be all liars all the time?

And therefore anyone looking you in the eye, or camera, or whatever you want to substitute is a liar.

What a crock of BS. There are people that can look you in the eye, be hooked up to a lie detector AND YOU WILL NEVER KNOW THEY ARE LYING. But, again, I'm sure you know more about this than me. After all, your buddy told you. Here's a link for you.

A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Ed Ward, MD

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SELF CONSCIOUS????? This dude was trained to kill for a living! Get real man!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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shit about others rights.

Ed Ward, MD

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All depends on who your talking about I guess. I have no sympothy for terrorists and insurgents if that's what your referring to.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

THEY MUST BE LIARS. Do you know his psych workup? Do you know how he sleeps at night? NO. YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT HIM EXCEPT THAT HE IS LYING CAUSE HE LOOKED TO THE LEFT. Trained to be killers? Where does the training in the killer part stop? Especially with mounting pressure to end this war? Doesn't stop at flying innocent people to be tortured. Oh, sorry, you were wrong person we sent to be tortured. My Bad.

Ed Ward, MD

a pack of lies from Bush. Those terrorists that have had their seeds destroyed and now have no way to live UNLESS THEY BUY SEEDS FROM MONSENTO. People tend to react when they are oppressed. Surely, no innocents are in the CCC, cuban concentration camp, oh, thats right, Cunnilingus Rice said they have freed several hundred from the CCC. My Bad. sorry. We don't give a shit about terrorists or that we made you. Stuck you in a CCC, invaded your country on lies, burned your seeds or strafed your wedding party. get over it. we just knew you were a terrorist until we shot ALL YOUR CHILDREN IN THE HEAD. After all, you looked to the left. EVERYONE KNOWS TERRORIST LOOK TO THE LEFT.

Ed Ward, MD

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All depends on who your talking about I guess. I have no sympothy for terrorists and insurgents if that's what your referring to.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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Do you know his psych workup?

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LOL...Do you? He might have some serious issues with life but since he's bad mouthing the war and the U.S. military I take it that YOU feel his word is gold.
Works both ways my friend.....neither of us knows, I'm just sceptical of his motives. This could get him way deep in the shit and finally in a military prison. Why would he risk it? It's not a crime to lie.........not being under oath at least.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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a pack of lies from Bush. Those terrorists that have had their seeds destroyed and now have no way to live UNLESS THEY BUY SEEDS FROM MONSENTO. People tend to react when they are oppressed. Surely, no innocents are in the CCC, cuban concentration camp, oh, thats right, Cunnilingus Rice said they have freed several hundred from the CCC. My Bad. sorry. We don't give a shit about terrorists or that we made you. Stuck you in a CCC, invaded your country on lies, burned your seeds or strafed your wedding party. get over it. we just knew you were a terrorist until we shot ALL YOUR CHILDREN IN THE HEAD. After all, you looked to the left. EVERYONE KNOWS TERRORIST LOOK TO THE LEFT.

Ed Ward, MD

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OMG!!! LOL.....you have at it dude! If that's what you REALLY want to run with....have at it!

LOL....I need a hit...have a good one!:thumbsup:

a liar, just because they are not looking you in the eye. But, I can tell you this. You know there is pressure coming from the top. You know Bush is commiting atrocities, torture, death. Did you take a look at the link ph sent me. It has some pictures in it that may MAKE YOU NOT WANT TO LOOK THEM IN THE EYE. What's his motive? Why would he say those things. To be popular? Cause he thinks bush will give him a medal? Are is he just trying to get a little sleep at night?

Things are rarely as simple as a look.

Ed

a liar, just because they are not looking you in the eye. But, I can tell you this. You know there is pressure coming from the top. You know Bush is commiting atrocities, torture, death. Did you take a look at the link ph sent me. It has some pictures in it that may MAKE YOU NOT WANT TO LOOK THEM IN THE EYE. What's his motive? Why would he say those things. To be popular? Cause he thinks bush will give him a medal? Are is he just trying to get a little sleep at night? His words ring true. The phraseology rings true. They are stated as though they come from a man who has done what he has done and can't be alone with himself. The families were slaughtered. It was covered up. It was not only him. It was multiplied x the number of patrols. Even if it was just one family. The fuckin HORROR. THE INJUSTICE. THE GUILT. Only the truth can set you free from that.

Things are rarely as simple as a look.

Ed

I definitely enjoyed our rebuttal. You were cranken em out there for a while. Was all I could do to keep up. I think we made some very good reading. Glad I could help on the NOLA thingy and I hope we both learned some stuff. If we didn't lots a good info in our posts. Although, unreferenced. I hate unreferenced stuff.

My Best to You and Yours, and have a good one (oh, man, that pisses me off in a heated rebuttal: grin)

Ed

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I definitely enjoyed our rebuttal. You were cranken em out there for a while. Was all I could do to keep up. I think we made some very good reading. Glad I could help on the NOLA thingy and I hope we both learned some stuff. If we didn't lots a good info in our posts. Although, unreferenced. I hate unreferenced stuff.

My Best to You and Yours, and have a good one (oh, man, that pisses me off in a heated rebuttal: grin)

Ed

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LOL....it's all good dude!:rasta:
Got a little community service time to kick out in the mornin' so I better hit it.:mad:


Have a good one..LOL!:thumbsup:

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LOL....it's all good dude!:rasta:
Got a little community service time to kick out in the mornin' so I better hit it.:mad:


Have a good one..LOL!:thumbsup:

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My Best to You and Yours,

Ed

It's a God given Right! It's true, it is granted to us by the Constitution and common law. I can look you in the eye when I say it. grin. Thats not a bad slogan for pot.

I'm commandeering this thread for a bit. Yes, the Bilderturds are on there. They are even subdivided. A ton of info in this schematic.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CCCC-U...20Schmatic.pdf

Ed

But, it is an excellent source of info on the Bilderturds, regarding make-up.

BTW, commandeering is the gov term for looting.

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I'm commandeering this thread for a bit. Yes, the Bilderturds are on there. They are even subdivided. A ton of info in this schematic.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CCCC-U...20Schmatic.pdf

Ed

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Ed

finally a brave American is telling the truth. Your government lied to you, you need to get rid of Bush. America became the least liked country during his presidency.

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finally a brave American is telling the truth. Your government lied to you, you need to get rid of Bush. America became the least liked country during his presidency.

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Where ya from? I noticed the "you"s, so you apparently are not from here. Do you think your government is not lying to you? I know of no such nation in the NWO.

BTW, he has to be brave now. Because, he was not brave earlier. A truly brave man would not do what he did.

My Best to You and Yours,

Ed

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finally a brave American is telling the truth. Your government lied to you, you need to get rid of Bush. America became the least liked country during his presidency.

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What fucking country do you live in?

I agree Bong..America & President Bush getting slammed everyday..well what about the other Countries? And I really want to know how Tony Blair is not put on the hot seat like our President??

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I agree Bong..America & President Bush getting slammed everyday..well what about the other Countries? And I really want to know how Tony Blair is not put on the hot seat like our President??

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No shit Shel.....

here is a story fuck nuts up there should know........


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