legalize methods

i dont think we are trying hard enough...i know that some of you dont really give a fuck, but if were gunna work for our rights, we better work HARD

marijuana, peyote, mushies, i believe they should all be legal...but they are no, a breaking of the constitution...

we also have to work to keep the things we hold for granted (like salvia, lions tail, blue lotus, etc) legal...we gotta get our asses busy man, and quick

some sit-ins would be very good, people on marijuana, or mushies (not all of em, of course)

I understand your feelings, but I believe that LEGALIZING is the wrong way to go. Decriminalizing is the way to go. If we legalize weed then that gives large corporations, such as Malboro, the chance to monopolize on the Cannabis industry. Knowing Malboro, I am sure they would add chemicals and other additives to make Cannabis the "addicting" plant that it is supposed to be. I just am not in favor for legalizing, but decriminalizing. But this doesn't mean I dislike the erb. ;)

Happy Toking :rasta:

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Originally Posted by kush07

I understand your feelings, but I believe that LEGALIZING is the wrong way to go. Decriminalizing is the way to go. If we legalize weed then that gives large corporations, such as Malboro, the chance to monopolize on the Cannabis industry. Knowing Malboro, I am sure they would add chemicals and other additives to make Cannabis the "addicting" plant that it is supposed to be. I just am not in favor for legalizing, but decriminalizing. But this doesn't mean I dislike the erb. ;)

Happy Toking :rasta:

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thats exactly how i feel....its just that many people dont really know what decriminalization really means, so i used legalization to get a point across easier

Decriminalizing, to me, means that users get a fine and growers get increased penalties. Once the people in a state eliminate penalties for medical use, it's all over but the crying.

Nobody cares if you blow you're brains out with drugs. It's all about taking your money.

peppersrite i live in la and its decriminilized but i think that it should be legalized so that prices drop, not that corperations should take it up or that ther should be high standerds idk its a complex idea for ther to be quality quanity and cheapness its possible just will take time

Straight from the horse's mouth...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/3876362.html

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After working as an assistant U.S. attorney in Virginia and Seattle, Tandy took a job at the Justice Department national office in Washington in 1990.

In the Justice Department, Tandy was a pioneer in the enforcement of asset forfeiture law â?? a government tactic used to deprive drug merchants of material gain by seizing planes, boats, ranches and more exotic possessions such as strip clubs and golf courses bought with drug cash.

By 1993, she was running the narcotics office at Justice, which put her on the path to being appointed by President Bush to head the DEA in 2003.

With her background in asset forfeiture, Tandy has focused on going after the money of drug pushers.

"When I came through the door, I made money the No. 1 priority," she said.

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You could decriminalize it or legalize it. I think legalizing it would make me feel more secure. Either way I would grow my own anyways. The only company that would get my doe is the seed companies and paper and pipe companies. If I had to buy some I'd get it from a buddy. Besides, if it was legal I'd grow a whole garden full of it.:smokin:

Legalize it with the right to be allowed to grow up to a certain number of plants as well as allowing companies to sell it like alchohol and cigarettes so we get the best of both worlds. If the tobacco companies try to put anything in their weed then only buy organic brands.

The whole point is our maximum amount of freedom.

It also makes no sense to me to penalize a dealer more than a user for a drug that is safe enough to consider legalizing. Seems a little hypocritical to me, a double standard maybe?

I don't see a need for tobacco companies to put addictive chemicals in it, lol! They stand to make a great deal of money with it being completely natural. Way too many tokers in the world to keep those companies in business for life. ;)

That's what's so great about the herb, man. It's righteous w/o being addictive! I think it would remain that way, if it were legalized, and tobacco companies took over operations.

Just my thoughts,

legalize it,decriminalize it,wtf why not just free the weed ,it aint for goverments to tell you what you can put in your body,i have already been and an willing to go to prison again for this freedom,dont beg for it take it.
there is no such thing as a victimless crime.

Children will be exposed to weed so easily if its legalised.
There are kids near me smoking normal cigs who are about 11 years old.
We dont want kids this young being able to get their hands on weed.
They'll be so much more exposed to it and we really dont need that.
Kids can be protected from weed if we keep it somewhat illegal.

I think I explained that how I want.

zoosh i think ur either a dealer or a cop because they r the only fuckers who want it to stay illigal,there is nothing stopping kids from getting weed now,u say that by keeping weed somewhat illigal it will protect kids from getting it,but cig's are illigal to buy for under 16 and they still get those,in ur own words....
"There are kids near me smoking normal cigs who are about 11 years old"
kinda knocks the shit outa ur own reasoning..free the weed..

http://eddie.gn.apc.org/index.php?pID=4

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"Each and every police officer has their own ranking of the relative seriousness of all criminal offences that is often based on their background experiences. However hard they try, their attitudes and behaviour are often affected by that assessment. I have never, and can never, see the drug user as a 'criminal'. I see them as, amongst other descriptions, a rebellious youth, a risk taking idiot, a seeker of relief, a lobbyist for independent thought and freedom, someone in need of guidance and help or a very real exasperation to parents and friends. But in as much as the drug use is concerned, not a criminal and therefore the criminal law cannot be the appropriate weapon to counter or deter a choice of use." -Eddie Ellison former operational head of Scotland Yard's Drug Squad

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Wow zoosh i don't believe what im hearing, Keep it ILLEGAL?? wow im stunned... and like gromorebud said u jus basically dug a deeper hole that you tried to get out of. there's no point trying to 'protect' the children, if they have the right resources they can get it so easy!

No point trying to get rid of weed, Im finding more, and more...and more plants growing wild out here :thumbsup: :rasta:

ZOOSH, what a harm can come from an underage person who smokes weed?

about the worst thing that could happen is they get busted by the cops and then get charged as adults!

I don't see anything wrong with young people smoking marijuana.


the people I know who hide their pot use from their kids, generally have kids who are curious and want to disobey their parents and try it!

but the people I know who are honest with their kids don't have pot smokers for kids.
my kid is 21 and never drank or smoked anything!

go figure

Zoosh, are you in touch with reality?! I agree with keeping children under the age of 18 off of it. However, keeping them off it totally works as well as sexual abstinance, which is to say not at all. Just say no? This is the real world, not Nancy Reagans fantasy.

If it's legalized it becomes harder for children to get, not easier. I started smoking weed at 13yrs old as it was so easy to get in my Catholic school. That was over 25 yrs ago, let alone today! Yet we couldn't get alchohol as nobody would buy it for us.

Think about your position again and then if you want to discuss it more I will be more than willing to.

wait a sec....stop grilling zooch for a sec...think of wat he's tryin to say: i think he's from the UK...now here in the UK, society is spiraling downwards into sum say anarchy. this involves high rates of violent crimes on a disturbing surge and wats more the youth of today are quite frankly remorseless, disrespectful, ill socialised little shits who have no respect for anythin watsoever. I call them generation x....im sure it'll have caught on in 5 years time wen the british government realises that their pussy ass Left realism approach to tackling the countries issues is just as useful as second hand toilet paper. Now to my point...these kids are drinking and smoking at the tender of age of 7+ and i can tell u..ive seen it wit my own eyes. Theres kids reportedly shooting up at the age of 11. I aint no cop...and let me tell u im studyin law to help liberalisation of cannabis...its my one goal in life- but precautions have to be taken. Ok yeah we all here like smokin bud and yeah it wud be so much easier to just legalize it but u have to think of the effects it will have upoi the rest of society and its repurcussions. You will never succeed if u think day to day, u have to be ahead of the time to succeed.

Has anyone seen the movie, "The Village"?

I think we could employ a scare-tactic on children, if we all pulled it off together.

That's a great movie. You gotta watch it.

I believe that all countries should start making the move to decriminalize Cannabis and not legalize it. Take the Netherlands for example. They have only decriminalized it and not legalized it. Coffee shops can only store what they can sell in a day and people are only allowed to use for private use and cultivate for private use and you are only allowed to sell outside the shops up to a gram. This way people don't start loading up the trucks and taking it outside the countries creating HUGE political problems. I hate politics but lets be realistic, if you want to keep something good you have to take measures to protect it. I In Germany you are allowed to have up to 30 grams in certain parts and they will not seek to penalize you. if caught And by the way for those of you that do not know the difference between legalization and decriminalization is this Legalize: Make it free for up to any amount, no boundries it's totally legal. Decriminalize: Legal for certain shop owners to obtain a license and sell cannabis in limited amounts in the boundries of the establishment and allowing the individual person to posess and cultivate in limited amounts. Personally I say about 100 grams would be enough but I would be head over heals if the US would agree to decriminalize cannabis up to 50 grams :thumbsup:

@prozac fairy,perhaps if the police wer'nt persicuting innocent cannabis users to boost their arrest rate they would have more time to use on violent criminals,im from the uk aswell so i know you are basicly right about the kids being out of control but who took all the power away from the parents and gave it to the kids,the same dik's who brought in 24 hour drinking laws thats who,im from nottingham m8 so dont even think about telling me about violent crime,we have to live with it every day,and where are all the police?playin hide and seek in their panda cars thats where.weed aint got fuck all to do with the state this country is in,the worse it gets on the streets the easier it gets for them to put more camara's up to monitor ur freedom,big brother aint just a book ya know,but by the time you work that out it will be to late.

i know one dude who could legalize it if he felt like it...bill gates!

one of u should go smoke him up

hell yeah ^

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