Hybrid / New Strain / Runderalis

I reworded this info from "The Cannibis Grow Bible" and am including pics showing how a Runderalis plant can look - Four of my 12 ladies are Runderalis plants. They just keep growing, so I topped them to keep them in the light. There are trichs on the leaves and will be good in a vaporizer, but I don't think they would make good tasting herb. Except the parts of the plant that have great buds going. All thes pics are from the same plant.

The last pic shows a Runderalis growing next to my best plant.

A hybrid is the offspring of two different strains. A strain is just a stock line with common parents. Stable strains have stable genetics traits, which means that the offspring will all be quite similar. In fact, most strains are called strains because of their uniformity in growth and less variations in the offspring. Hybrids tend to be unstable, or genetically unpredictable, because of their â??newnessâ??. A good stabilized hybrid eventually becomes a strain.

Most unstable hybrids do not find their way into the market and are found only among breeders who are experimenting with plant genetics. Seed producers tend to only produce strains in the following categories:

Pure Sativa (pure species)
Sativa (mostly Sativa species with some Indica)
Pure Indica (pure species)
Indica (mostly Indica species with some Sativa)
Indica/Sativa (50/50 cross between an Indica and a Sativa species)
Runderalis (pure species)

Runderalis is a problematic plant. It doesnâ??t produce large quantities of THC or flower like the other species. Runderalis is considered substandard by most flowers because it flowers according to age, not according to the photoperiod. That means that the Runderalis cannabis plant will flower when itâ??s mature enough to do so and this flowering action of the Runderalis is â??out of the growers handsâ?? for the most part.

While that is true, ruderalis typically has less THC production, the LR strain, which also has ruderalis in it, to give it its auto flowering traight, is a strong stone/high.

So ruderalis isnt always as bad as people say ;)

I hope your right LIP! I'll let ya know how good the buzz is at this stage I've had some drying for 2 days and can vaporize it tonight. One cool thing about a vaporizer is you can put it in straight from the plant with no drying and it works quite well in a pinch. :)

hey thats cool u can throw a fresh bud right in the vaporizer, smooooooooth... there are some out there asking that question, nice pics!

Yeah, but it won't be as strong. You're best off oven drying or microwave drying then putting it in the vaporizer if you're in a pinch.

How long do ruderalis plants take to flower, since they do it on their own? Also, do they not need a flowering stage? For instance, if you were to get a ruderalis, and keep it in vegetative stage, would it automatically flower, and not require a dark period?

There are 4 of 12 ladies that are Ruderalis. They all began flowering around the same time. Two of them were reveged. One of those two grew normally while the other went Ruderalis. I tried some last night from some that is in the last third time span of flowering... In a vaporizer is was pretty good!

ahhh lady v you always start a thread on something im looking into lol.i am growing aurora indica from nervana and as you know they are well known for their ununiformed strains.So i got 3 diferent pheno types 2 showing indica traits,1showing heavy sativa traits and 1 showing ruderelis this plant is ay 6 weeks flower and there is no bud swelling like the others loads of pistals but no swelling of the buds.It was the plant i was keeping for cuttings for my next grow and it auto flowered at 79 days ,i should have known that as it had female pre flowers at 3 week loads of them all over the place.It is nothing like yours and to be honest it looks like a common weed exept for the leaves.i know the ruderalis strain grows best in 10 hours dark 14 hours lightits a very intresting strain and do you have any pics .I will get some pics tonight and show youhow this looks it is know were near as good looking as yours but thats nervana for you.I have just crossed white russian with this wicked strain that mobay got from jamaica so i think i will pollenate this ruderalis with wr and then introduce this to the wr jamaican cross and see if i can get a auto flowerting strain any thoughts on this.Top job with the reveg , very well done.the postman.

good thread.. I never even knew this plant existed. Interesting.

POSTMAN....Id love to see ur aurora indicas. I have aurora indica and top44 on order.... That is... If they ever arrive.. Kinda nervous at the moment.

I wouldn't grow Ruderalis indoors. In my opinion it is a waist of space. It is an outdoor strain. So you can get several harvests per season. Thats it.
Indoors you mine as well grow a sea of green with some good genetic's. Because your controling everything anyway.
See what I mean.

Here's my situation... I have quality seeds I got when I used to buy a couple years ago. I'm out of those for good now. I got one seed that was found in some herb from a medical store in Hollywood. Now I have plenty of seeds, but they're all hybrid. In 2 of 3 grows I got Ruderalis. I have no way of telling whether or not a seed is going to be Ruderalis or not. I live in a little mountain town with nosey old ladies running the Post Office. No way can I order seed through them. The only way I could think of getting seeds safely would be thorugh UPS or FedEx... I've looked around before and didn't find any that deliver that way. I'll do some more looking for my next grow. It's not legal to buy them in the U.S. and I don't want illegal seeds delivered to my house. I have no friends that I want to know I'm growing. With that in mind I don't know of a way to get good seeds. :confused:

I'm not thrilled getting 4 of 12 females turning out like this. However, it is turning out to be some damn good herb - In a vaporizer anyway...

Then thats all you need to know girl...
Look at it this way, you are doing what you need to do without being unsafe (by not keeping it on the down low) with it, and you might just develope a new unheard of strain if you ever stabilize it and make a million dollars. Be cool girl, be a pioneer.

Dion

Thanks for the words of encouragement Dion! I thought it would be cool to cross a sativa with an indica plant and it just worked out that way.
Last night I broke a couple small buds by accident as the space is super tight moving around. One of buds had a mature looking seed. That means what all seeds I find on this mother again will more than likely be an new kind of hybrid as they would have been polinated by the last hybrid which had a male in the mix that I got out after it gave the lower parts of the plants a trace amount of seeds here and there. One thing for sure, the colas on the good plants of this hybrid are looking real tasty right now with another 21 days er so to go. The first pic here is a close up of a lower bud on the best plant. The second pic is the best cola going at 16" X 2 1/2 and still swelling. This 3rd. grow have flowers a great deal more flowers that are pouring out the trichomes. I'm quite certain this grow was also helped by adding 2,000 watts of CFL bulbs.