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Hey, there is alot of controversy over here about the most powerful man in the world being: George Bush :eek: . I want to know what the rest of of you guys think that aren't from America think about the 'ole GW. Anyone over in canada or the UK (or anywhere else if you can speaka teh engalisha) want to say anything? AMERICANS NO BITCHING ON THIS THREAD!!! :mad:
I watched the 9/11 conspirices and I think he is apart of the things that happened...
I'm British and I hate him. All I see in his face are lies and deception. It's obvious the guy is uneducated, untrustworthy and manipulative and it's sad that America has someone like that for a president. I honestly can't understand why some Americans truly believe he is a good man, looking out for the wellbeing of his country, then again your a funny lot :D .
As for the rest of the UK, obviously I can't speak for the entire population but everyone i've spoken to agrees. Suffice to say, America isn't the most popular of countries over here and most people couldn't give a shite whats happening with it, or it's president. I'm interested to know whether Americans are aware of that :P .
I'm australian.. and in my opinion george bush .. deserves to rot in hell and die.. so do alot of americans. "america is the greatest nation in the world " ( george bush) SUCK MY DICK... america is a shit for brick country .
He's fucked. Havent u heard? the whole world hates america for one reason or another. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingo
Yeah I am anti-bush also. I think he has brought even more hate on the US. Most of us Americans know that the world hates us, but we don't care. lol
so why do yous act so surprised and outraged when the jihad fires burn?Quote:
Originally Posted by sawleaf
"America isn't the most popular of countries over here and most people couldn't give a shite whats happening with it, or it's president."
Oh really? Is that why your posting about the US and it's prez? England is kind of our Lap dog. Here boy, sit, roll over boy. Now be a good boy, and do as the Bushy says. You Aussie's are the same way. Can't do a thing unless you seek our approval first. What a bunch of pussy's you guys are to let another country control you like that. If so many of your country's people hate US, why do your governments still deal with US?
"AMERICANS NO BITCHING ON THIS THREAD!!!"
One of the cool things about the US is that we can, and do, say what ever the hell we want to. Why do you need rules for your hate speech? Are you scared that some Americans will defend their country and it's people?
"deserves to rot in hell and die.. so do alot of americans."
So do a lot of English, Aussie's, russians, and so on and so on. Hey, but why just stop at words, you guys are a tough lot, why don't you actualy do something about US instead of just sitting around whining and crying to each other about how awful the US is?
"the whole world hates america for one reason or another."
I see! Well, I would like to just take your word for it on that, but the evidence says otherwise. People are dying to get here. They risk it all for a chance in the US. Yep, I guess that would be my first choice of things to do. Risk it all to go to a country I hate. Your theory that the whole world hates the US is flawed. I'm thinking some hate US, and some don't. If it makes ya feel better to think that the "whole world" hates the US, I suppose it would be ok, but if the truth is what you like you had better look again at the world you say hates US.
The US, for the short time it has been around, gives more to the world then any other country. As a matter of fact, we are the most giving people on this planet. Many more would die without US in the world, then would die with US in the world. The people of the US come from all over the world. They are the world. If you hate US, then you hate the world. Some of you will claim it is only the "government" that you hate, but it is all to clear that the American color of our skin is what's hated by the ones that do hate US. That includes you guys.
Toker
You wouldn't be outraged if your country was attacked and innocent people were killed????Quote:
Originally Posted by Imotep
no arguing
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Originally Posted by Sedater18
So we are only aloud to agree that Americans should rot in hell and die? I don't agree with that man. I think anyone should be able to say their opinion without censorship, self or otherwise, not just ones that agree with your warped view of the world. When someone claims Americans should rot in hell and die, no little whimpy "no arguing" reply is going to do a damn thing to silence me.
Toker
Yep and when the indos stop bombing hotels over there and start up on our cities I'll be fuming, but not surprised.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawleaf
This whole war on terror thing is being escalated by our involvement in the coalition of the willing.
yes Oz is a US lapdog and its fucking sickening. we're the 53rd state.
I said not to bitch because I dont care about other americans opinions right now, im trying to find out what other peoples thoughts are on the us. Whether they are wrong and full of shit or not doesn't matter right now because that what they think about us. I just want to hear first opinions , if they are wrong and you can convince them of that later doesn't matter , its first opinions. If I walk into my school's main hall with all the adults and teachers and shit, and when they see my long hair marley shirt, my eyes, the way I walk and the way I talk they think "oh he's stoned" to themselves even when im not stoned. I could sit there and argue about if im stoned or not, or I can do what I usually do and just think to myself "fucking bitch, that bitch is fucking dumb dude" and keep walking. I can make a thread about americas thoughts on other countries later, even tho some asshole will say dumb shit on it.Quote:
One of the cool things about the US is that we can, and do, say what ever the hell we want to. Why do you need rules for your hate speech? Are you scared that some Americans will defend their country and it's people?
us dumb arseholes got no-where else to go sob.
I'm an asshole myself. I'm always happy to meet another asshole. Glad to meet ya! Say, the person running this thread may be an asshole too. Do ya think we should let em join the club?Quote:
Originally Posted by Imotep
Toker
lol TokerQuote:
Originally Posted by Libertarian Toker
Right, America. Course I don't hate it.. I disagree with certain decisions the Bush Administration has made, and some of their policies ie the war on drugs. I also disagree with alot of decisions Tony Blairs government has made, ie the war on drugs lol but i dont hate Britain..
What I do hate, is when people fight and argue over territory, and get into arguements over whos country is the best. Thanks to the internet, we can make friends, communication with people, do business, shop etc all over the world, but at the same time countries are becoming more devided.. sometimes I wish I could live on the moon, just me, some weed and a dog, away from all this fighting and argueing over territory, politics, religion etc.. do you guys really think we were put here to kill eachother and to seperate away from eachother like this? We all look the same, no matter where we're from.. try and remember that the next time you say you hate a country or someone of a different race or nationality..
*dickheadQuote:
the person running this thread may be an asshole too
In the spirit of international harmony, dickheads will be henceforth entitled all benefits enjoyed by arseholes. :D
Nice to meet ya Toker.
Damn, that was close. I thought I had lost my membership in the asshole club there for a minute. That dude is no asshole. He seems like more of a wanker then anything else. An asshole would have more respect for assholishness then he does. If we let him in the club, it can only be for a probationary period so he can prove his assholishness is worthy of the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Imotep
Toker
Bragging about being asses. Where can I vote for that party. Wow, great branch for the libers, the personal attack proud of being asses division of the libertarian party. oh, that is kinds redundant. Hey, I really hate bush/kerry. Think you would like to be the demo/repub/liber toker? Proud constituents like yourself are really valuable. I think you should benefit them with your personal political expertise. Please continue to help the liber party, you are bound to be a huge draw for them and also consider helping the demo/repubs. The People need all the help they can get.
Ed.
Yep, that's me. A proud Libertarian Asshole. What is your fixation with me dude? Are you mad about something? Did I piss in your wheaties or something? You seem kind of hostile, and negitive. Libertarians, like everyone else, are individuals. Get it? If one is an asshole, that doesn't mean they are all that way. I can see where a small mind would think that way though. Do you have a small mind?
Toker
lol Lib Toker, u never fail to make me laugh man, thanks :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Libertarian Toker
and assholishness is a great word... im gonna use it more often
That doesn't mean they all were. Please consider helping the 'crats as well as the libers.
The nazies, now their is a group of fun guys. All proud to be asses. But, that doesn't mean they were all bad.
Fixated? And I thought I was just responding to repeated personal attacks, you know like the one prior to this message. You know the funny kind of personal attacks. When out of facts, try the personal attacks. Now that is my kinda party.
Ed
I guess that would mean your out of fact since your on to personal attacks. LOL! Nazi's also thought of themselves as activist. Gee, now there is a group of fun guys.
"I was just responding to repeated personal attacks"
I believe you made a post to me? A special post for me. I like em, it shows care and courage. I'm sorry you find my reply insulting. It does make it easier for you to ignore my questions to you though, doesn't it?
I truely hope you will reconsider running off with your tail between your legs, I am enjoying the laughs, and I hope to continue them with you. Don't go man, it will make you look like a whimp.
Toker
say what ever the hell we want to. \
..We Candadianishes' brned down your white hosue so stf,
No ones liek americans, say sumthign to piuss us off and we may do it again.
We may not have numebrs but anyone who hits canada is fucking dead im sure. How many ememies do we h8ave, shit knows all we do in wars is send people supplies!
Common evyeorne owes us an outstretched hand. I supose anyhow. We have mroe troops in teh U.N then in our own damn army tho. lol!
Seriously tho. America is goign to fall apart fomr the inside out if anyhting, common juts look at their homocides and shit. The poeple are on the verge of cracking, eachclingign to a stereoype for reassurance. Thats why the "hype" is so great there, a large amjority of their peopel are on the verge of cracking. Juist look at how the shit country acts and how shit the poeple are becomming.
Always fighitng outter wars, igrnoring whats on the inside.
Just my opinion.
Cesar.
Lib ur a fuckign funyn guy
"..We Candadianishes' brned down your white hosue so stf,
No ones liek americans, say sumthign to piuss us off and we may do it again."
You mean your not pissed off already? Somehow I doubt that you would be burning much now-a-days. You have grown a little to whimpy. It's ok, you can revisit that point in history all you want if it makes you feel like a big tough Canada. Of course if the US wanted to, we could walk in and take canada in a matter of days. More then likely without a fight. There is something about about a bunch of unarmed, anti-war whimps without an army that just screams power to burn down the white house. Yep, I'm sure your threat has the white house up in arms. They are working as we speak to try and keep from pissing off Canada to save the whitehouse.
"Juist look at how the shit country acts and how shit the poeple are becomming."
Yep, it's even rubbing off on the shit people in the shit countrys around US. They are just like US. They claim to be different, but they are just as shitty as US. Maybe even shittier.
Toker
HEy sumoen knowcked down the twin towers why not the white huse? Got knows we have more planes then any "terrorists" We'll except the United Shits... ha ah that may be a bit low but w/e.
W/e man. Were not mass homicide inciting, bullying motha fuckers.
We may not be armed to hte hilts or anythign, and no we woudlnt fight back, we'd just continue on the way we always had, and vote party's whcihc seem most candain, so even if u really take us over, being open minded we'll jsut vote party's wiht candain leaders.... so takign us over woudl really accompish nothing.
"Were not mass homicide inciting, bullying motha fuckers."
At least not until your pissed off. Hell, then you can even beat up the US, right? I was watching the news from Canada the other day, and it would seem that you do have quit a few homicidal people up there. Canada is not a perfect utopia after all is it? Let's see, you have a drug war, you have homicidal people on killing sprees, and you are some of the most racist people on the planet, and so on and so forth. Yep, you guys have a lot to be proud of don't cha?
"HEy sumoen knowcked down the twin towers why not the white huse?"
Because Muslim terrorist have big balls, and canadians don't.
"We may not be armed to hte hilts or anythign, and no we woudlnt fight back, we'd just continue on the way we always had, and vote party's whcihc seem most canadian, so even if u really take us over, being open minded we'll jsut vote party's wiht candain leaders.... so takign us over woudl really accompish nothing."
Is it really open minded to just vote for canadians if that was the case? I'm thinking it is more of a closed mind if that mind can only see in one direction like that. Open minded, haha, that's a good one. When it come to the US, quit a few Canadians are as closed minded as people can get. They are equal to christian conservitives in closed mindedness. I find it rather amusing that some people like to call themselves "open minded" while exposing how closed their mind really is. Here is a question for ya. Is bushy 100% wrong?
Toker
I knew this would happen :mad: what next? maybe torog will post a couple paragraphs :rolleyes:
What did you expect to happen? Oh yeah, looks like this is exactly what you expected. Almost as if you knew this would happen when you made the original post. If you knew Americans would defend against attacks such as these, and that type of thing makes you mad and causes your eyes to roll around in your head, maybe you shouldn't have done it in the first place. If you post hatefull things, you can bet you will get replys to it that are not going to be in your favor. You can try, but you can't exclude US from speaking if we want to be heard. Good intentions or not, your mission is going to fail on a message board like this board if that mission is to bash the US without any kind of defence for the US. If you have a problem with me defending the US, well that's just to bad for you ain't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedater18
Toker
I never said I have a problem with you defending the U.S. I have a problem with you being and asshole about it. You're getting to riold up over opinions. What they said wasn't exactly that hateful. Just disagreeing with you.
almost every thread I have read by you is aggresive, hostile, and negative.Quote:
You seem kind of hostile, and negitive.
dont be such an asshole. There is a difference between being an asshole in a sort of kidding fashion and being an asshole. Y
All great platforms when fighting for Rights from a hostile, aggressive, jerk assness of a similar government. How can that not be good for the cause of equality, justice and freedom.
Ed ;)
That's a good question! You could say if so many Americans hate Bush, why is he still your president.Quote:
Originally Posted by Libertarian Toker
This might shock your little mind but not a single Brit I know supported the war on Iraq. There's a rather large difference to how the government run this country and how the public rather it be ran. If it were the way of the people of Britain, we would've screwed up your invitation to go to war and thrown it in your face, whether we knew or not how much appreciated our help was.
Not that we can blame old Tony for sucking up to Bush. Had he declined, as he probably wished, you guys'd be at our throats right away as much as you are at Iraq's. America is like a bully you can't say no to. You're certainly the most powerful country in the world but it's only for your own selfish good, that's the only place your blind patriotism lies.
Anyway, don't get me wrong. I love Americans, I think they're a very friendly people, but the worlds a lot bigger then your country.
And that is the way both countries are being looked at by the world. More so in the US, ya'll still have a free press of sorts. Ours has been dismantled. All the gov propaganda that is fit to print is all we get. US and UK both invaded a country based on lies, that is what happened, and that is what the world sees, where it is allowed to be seen. Both nations have been taken over by polical interests that have no real concerns over The People's Rights. All these FOREIGN Wars are Unconstitutional. Read the HBC for refs. War was relegated to Invasion of the US. That is it. No invasion, No War.
Ed :(
"I have a problem with you being and asshole about it."
Theres not much you can do about that. You can whine and cry all day, but at the end of the day I will still be an asshole, and still be proud of it too.
"You're getting to riold up over opinions. What they said wasn't exactly that hateful. Just disagreeing with you."
Oh, I see. Then again, maybe I don't see. I don't see how you can say people that are saying they hate the US and that the people of the US should die is not being that hatefull. Oh well, maybe your right, and they are just dissagreeing with me when they say hatefull BS like;
"Juist look at how the shit country acts and how shit the poeple are becomming"
"I'm australian.. and in my opinion george bush .. deserves to rot in hell and die.. so do alot of americans. "america is the greatest nation in the world " ( george bush) SUCK MY DICK... america is a shit for brick country ."
"the whole world hates america for one reason or another."
Hatefull is the correct word in my opinion. Blind hate.
"almost every thread I have read by you is aggresive, hostile, and negative."
So is most of the stuff others posted. So what! I guess you think wishing for the death of people because of the country they live in is a positive thing. I don't mind negitive or hostile. As matter of fact, I enjoy it. It makes for more interesting threads. Why do you wish to control me, and my ways? Are they so effective that you feel a need to try and stop me?
"There is a difference between being an asshole in a sort of kidding fashion and being an asshole."
There is no doubt that I am a true asshole. Proud of it too.
Toker
"All great platforms when fighting for Rights from a hostile, aggressive, jerk assness of a similar government. How can that not be good for the cause of equality, justice and freedom."
I'm thinking you need to try and make a little more sense with your replys man. Your starting to get a little far out there. It seems you think being a jerk, or an asshole, is not good for whatever cause you happen to be supporting. If this is the case, then why are you such a jerk? You know what the difference is between me and you? I can admit that I am an asshole, and you can't.
Toker
"That's a good question! You could say if so many Americans hate Bush, why is he still your president."
That's a good counter question. The problem is that it doesn't answer the original question, and makes it look as if your trying to hide from the original question.
"This might shock your little mind but not a single Brit I know supported the war on Iraq."
This might shock your large mind, but I know some Brits that do support the war in Iraq.
"There's a rather large difference to how the government run this country and how the public rather it be ran."
I see! And you think that the way the US government is run is the way most Americans want it to be run?
" If it were the way of the people of Britain, we would've screwed up your invitation to go to war and thrown it in your face, whether we knew or not how much appreciated our help was."
If I was you, I would be more worried about this then I was about the US. You seem to be letting them fuck you, and all you can do is bitch about US. I would think that you would be more interested in fixing your problems, and that one seems to be a big one, then in seeing how insulting you can be to US. I suppose some peoples prioritys differ quite a bit. If you can't control your own government, what the hell are you doing trying to tell US about ours for?
"Not that we can blame old Tony for sucking up to Bush. Had he declined, as he probably wished, you guys'd be at our throats right away as much as you are at Iraq's."
Oh yeah, we had to twist his arm real hard. ROTFLMAO! You might kid yourself with that BS, but I ain't buying it.
"You're certainly the most powerful country in the world but it's only for your own selfish good, that's the only place your blind patriotism lies."
Blind patriotism comes in a lot of forms. Your excusing Tony is blind patriotism. More then mine is, that's for sure. I don't make excuses for bushy, as I don't think there is any that could excuse his abuses. Am I patriotic? Yes, I am, but not in the negitive way you try to portray it as.
"Anyway, don't get me wrong. I love Americans, I think they're a very friendly people, but the worlds a lot bigger then your country."
I love it when people think that their view of the world is so much grander then others based on where they come from. It shows a real maturity and open mindedness to assume they somehow see more of the world then others do. Way to build yourself up there man. I guess since your so worldly I will just have to take your word as gosple truth from now on.
I come across as an ass, but if you want to have a decent abuse free conversation, I can do that also. I prefer to talk with people that dissagree with me. You can learn from that. You can't learn from people that just agree with you.
Toker
sounds like your talking about yourself there dude.Quote:
I love it when people think that their view of the world is so much grander then others based on where they come from. It shows a real maturity and open mindedness to assume they somehow see more of the world then others do.
because, some people still like him. Even tho more people dislike him, our so called democracy says that as long as a reasonable portion of us still accept him, then he will remain in office.Quote:
That's a good question! You could say if so many Americans hate Bush, why is he still your president.
then why dont you start having an abuse free argument like I asked in the first place? I never started any shit with you. Chill out.Quote:
I come across as an ass, but if you want to have a decent abuse free conversation, I can do that also. I prefer to talk with people that dissagree with me. You can learn from that. You can't learn from people that just agree with you.
Just here for BS nazi fun attacking anything that does not agree with nazi bs attitudes.
Ed