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it never ends..........
now , I just hear on the news, tomorrow the illegal immigrants are gonna boycott and not go to work,to show that they are needed!!!
get the HELL out!!!
DonT think I will miss them, in fact I m ight party X -TRA HARD on May 1 st, 2006!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That makes two of us! On Tuesday they should have immigration make the rounds for those that missed work on Monday.:cool:
I am going to go shopping more tomarrow.........
Our government should do there job and mass arrest these criminals, what better chance for that then May 1st, i'll volunteer, these people yelling for the same rights as americans but are not willing to go to the process as others have--fuk em--I just hope no dumb shit happens..gawd damn it!! i cant help but to think this will help the neo-cons out...and i dont give a fuk about--- aww there poor and shit-- fuk em there leaders should deal with it instead of sending them over here, We have enuff problems..just my 2cents.
Same here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
Glad to hear we are all in agreement! FUCK EM!!!!
DIRTY ROTTON SCROUNDRELS!!!!!
ironic how in the line of patriotism such disgusting statements madeQuote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyGirl
LOL, and anyone we miss we can get on cinco de mayo!:) i really hope that national illegal immigrant day blows up in there face! i say send them all home!Quote:
Originally Posted by eg420ne
I hate to see america run down by people who call for the takeover of the southwest, who cares if it belong to some group back in the old days if they wanted it more they shouldve of fought for it harder. trust me i know few mexican nationals that have said thats the plan to be part of mexico again. how about la raza(the race) that calls for the take over of the southwest, i heard it with my own ears, the mexican radio station calls for it all the time.. but as i said b4 this is planned by the neo-cons or some other nwo type group, and that is the main reason i have hate for this kind of movement, they should be protesting there own government, we need protest here in the state to oust these criminals that have taken over the USA...No good will come from this, the only thing these people will bring on them is more hate. hey check it out some high school kids got in trouble for walking out and protesting the war, but when these illegal do they were greeted with open arms..shame on america---i guess this is my republican side
my part of the country is pretty much in the forefront of this immigration nonsense. i told all the people that work for me, if you don't show up on monday, go ahead and take the rest of the week off! oh, you might as well just start looking for a new job the friday before your walkout. your gonna need the headstart on finding new work, because you sure as hell won't like the reference i give!::mad:
I think it's an excellent idea. But let us not forget the true origins of May Day in the Haymarket Martyrs, five anarchists who were murdered by the United States government after being framed for a crime they did not commit as they were demonstrating for worker's rights. We should be showing solidarity with our fellow workers, no matter where they happen to come from, instead of mindlessly feeding the system which oppresses us all. Shopping isn't going to help anybody, except of course for the capitalists who are profiting off the backs of the immigrant workers who manufactured the products you're buying.
This is actually the 2nd time the immigrants have had a National walk out day. Liberal Media is just hyping it up to sound like they are gona affect the nation. We didnt even notice it the first time.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyGirl
your right myth--- cause I know I didnt. I Think now I do because its soooo obvious -- they are every where!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Myth1184
Rush Got It Right!
I saw this quote on another forum and thought it deserve to be here as well---
Theodore Roosevelt :
"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
I wanna know why so many 'americans' think it's the right thing to work everyday of the week nad to force your kids to go to school with teachers that are stupid...
Missing a day of work or day of school isn't that big of a deal... I've missed plenty for being hung-over much less for standing up for something... I think the real problem that is coming out from this isn't the effect imigrants have on american it the ability america has had to brainwash everyone to think that they must work every single day of the week and that if you do nothing for a day you are a worthless piece of crap...
They are missing one day ONE, 24 hours, that's it... I'm sure I've wasted a day doing something more worthless than a march.. hell everyday I go to work I think it's more worthless than standing up for a cause... what the fuck happened to this country to think that you must work 24/7 to be an american?
It just seems like the same hatered yuppies had with hippies who portested war and wanted peace... they didn't work for years and no one said let's round them up and throw them out... hippies made jobs out of following Grateful Dead and tripping on acid... what's wrong with that?? Why do you have to work 40 hours a week to be american?? We are spose to be a free country... free to work when ever you want... free to sit on your ass when you want... freedom is merely the ability to feel love for everyone...not the ability to work everyday...
imigrants are only protesting because they feel they have a point and a reason... instead of being irrational and thinking we can just march them back to mexico is just dumb and a waste of thought... why not try to figure out why they are doing it and make america a more welcoming country.
I thnk it's noble for what they are doing... they achieved thier mission and just have to put up with the ignorance of americans who think llfe means work... something I'm sure many people didn't think america stood for...
but you all keep your safe job, go home to your safe house, kiss your safe wife, and tuck your safe kids in bed... give up all your freedoms for safty and don't worry about anything in the real world...
I'll wait till next week till you bitch about something different and not understand why you aren't happy... could it be cause you work 60 hours a week?
I find nothing noble at all about today..why don't they learn english and do this the right way when coming here...don't disrespect and imo that is what many are doing..and I am enjoying a day of shopping with no hollering kids anywhere (I hope).:) At least they are standing together with few holdouts (and even they are supporters but still working).
Let them go through the process like millions of other immigrants had to....what's so wrong with that?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
Thank you EG very powerful........i like your repub side.....lolQuote:
Originally Posted by eg420ne
He does make one hell of a good neo-con....lol:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
Oh great....now the dog won't even play fetch...:mad:
since when has a protest become disrespectful? Ya they are not legal... most of them know that, they understand that... they aren't protesting because they think they are legal... they are protesting because they want to become legal and our government is too busy with a Dick Length contest to pass anything that can help them come to this country legally...
They don't wanta amnesty and I hope they know they won't get it... they just want a process that they can follow to come into this country legally and if 3 million people come here illegaly each year, something isn't working right... something needs to be done about it and they are showing that.
Americans are too full of themselves to realize that.. they see one bad person and thinks that what everyone wants... it's not... the want the ability to come to america and live the american dream.... something you or your ancestors did at one point in their life as well.
Is it because Bush has had everyone by the balls and there have been no protest in years?? Is that why?? No one notices till people stand up and do something... that's what they are doing... they aren't trying to take america over... they are trying to find a way to become american...
are there some who need to be sent back.. yes a hell of a lot... but don't let them hide the main reason for the protests there is a problem in this country about illegals.... we know it, they know it... we need congress and our leader to do something about it...they are protesting cause they won't.. beacause they go to congress and pull out their dick's and say look mines bigger, no look mines bigger... we have a leadership who isn't worried about what is happening to america and it pisses me off that people who aren't american understand our rights more than americans do...
"the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
we have a failed immigration program... look on your tv 15 million got in without talking to anyone...that's a problem... they want it fixed as much as you do... stop trying to fight everyone... fight congress and bush if you are pissed about them being here... it's thier fault not the mexicans... they came cause they could and no one cared... but now that they are here people care... it's not the governments problem for letting them in though...no... it's theirs for wanting to come here and live a life better than what they would in mexico... Get a life... they came cause our government knew they needed a slave force to make them money... thats why they are here and why they won't send them back...
yell at your congressman not a mexican...
I think I would yell at the coyotes and their slave practices with human beings before I yelled at anyone else...and yes...what some are doing are disrespectful concerning the marches today imo.
We should yell at the congressman.....GET SOME GREYHOUND BUSSES READY!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
they should turn south and march right back to mexico and fix that shit hole....
if they put as much energy into mexico as they do protesting america... mexico might not suck.....
no it would still suck
There are proper proceedures in place for immigration..........
http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/services/natz/require.htm
http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/servic...z/howapply.htm
http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/servic...z/statemap.htm
I myself would'nt harrass any protesters but I sure don't agree with them!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelbay
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
the civil war will start in sothern california.....
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
is that why 20 million got in here illegaly?? what don't you get about needed a chagne?? if 20 million get through something is broken or not working like it should... you think greyhounds is the answer you're dumber than i thought... i'm sure it's cheap to haul 15 million people in greyhounds... get a fucking clue... somethings broken... its needs to be fixed and it's not that mexicans are here it's how they got here...it's sad that you can blame this on them and not give a shit that congress hasn't done anything about this... do you not rememeber them wacking each other off before they went on break about how great of job they had done and how they came up with a plan...
our immigration process is flawed... horribly flawed and if you think it's cause of the mexicans your either ignorant or stupid...
but blame them I don't care... you're gonna find something else to bitch about next week... and once again be ignorant to the fact the maybe fixing what is broken is better than hating people...
Who am I hating? I got busted for growing because it was ILLEGAL. I didn't bitch, piss, moan , or complain....I took my lumps. What makes illegal immigrants so special as not to have to abide by the law?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
You should have noticed that part of the naturalizatiion criteria is to know english....many other immigrants from other nations had to jump throught the hoops, why not Mexicans?
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
"the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
This holds true for U.S. citizens!
then why are we in Iraq? if our beliefs are meant only for americans why are we trying to spread it around the world?? HYPOCRACY....
that's what's wrong is you are seeing them as non americans and therefor they shouldn't be allowed our rights?? that's crap, they are still allowed human rights.... "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. â?? That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, â?? That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
what about that one... not just american right... right this land was founded on... rights we no longer have... rights you all are pissing away for security... what about happiness... what about the right to live a peaceful happy life??
:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
great point!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
so the US can kill 100,000 civilians in Iraq to get them the rights which we cherish,
but those in our country which arent citizens want it
and Americans look down upon them to the lowest level
= sickening
20 million... 20 million... that 20,000,000
2 million have been arrested in the us...
some 450,000 for drugs.... 20,000,000 isn't cause of some small glitch in the system, it's a flawed system and flawed border... we share it by the way with mexico, it's not just theirs...
ok, why not instead of pay 10 - 25 BILLION to get them all out, we give Mexico 20 Billion to keep them their... why not instead of trying to kick them out we help mexico build a stronger country and help create jobs there so they don't come here... if we are the GLOBAL FREEDOM FIGHTERS!!! why not help the country right next to us instead of the one in the middle of no where with the oil...
There are alot of areas that all of the branches have stomped on the basics of our constitution but in general; I'm peaceful and happy......:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
Why give them 20 billion. That's half the problem now. Oh U.S., either you give us "x" amount of dollars or this will happen. Why do you think half of our army was trapped up during the Iraq war? Turkey trying to extort money for allowing our forces to march. Because of this the 4th division wasn't able to secure the Syrian border.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
i know you are psycho... i thought you were rational as well... I just don't understand why you think it is ok to fix Iraq and spend $275,000,000,000 and counting ( www.costofwar.com) but not to fix mexico...
20,000,000 people didn't come here cause they thought it would be fun, they came because mexico isn't nice and it's easy to get here... "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." that is not only american... its meant for everyone... and we are not helping them in any way by sending them back to a country that doesn't help...
so all I am asking is why not spend money on helping them out rather than spending the same money kicking them out, just so they will come back again...
give a man a fish he'll eat for a day.... teach a man to fish he'll eat for a life time...
I'm not saying let's let them in an call them american... we need sovernty... I'm saying why waste billions on sending them all back when we can spend the same money giving them a better life???
I agree there has to be more of a solution but I don't have the answers. Big buisiness ships out jobs to these countries (like Heinz) because of the consumer base but then it gives slave labor wages....that's something that needs to be dealt with by the Mexican government for fair labor wages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
Good debate.......enjoyed it!!!:D
I'm so glad we had this time together,
Just to have a laugh, and sing a song.
Seems we just got started and before we knew it
Came the time we had to say, 'So long.':thumbsup:
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
ahh... so maybe the answer is to get rid of big business in america... that way we won't need slaves... we won't have 400million dollar oil profiteers... we won't have a global empire... we won't have a dictator... we won't have corruption... we won't have a rich and poor class...
maybe the answer isn't to fix each problem big business causes, maybe it's time to take big business out of government...
FYI.... Kerry is married to a lady with Heinz as a last name :) wonder why congress allowed it to happen... bring up another top 25 company and i'll find you someone in office...
here's a few- condi rice... chevron 10 years
hillary.... walmart board
DICK - do I have to??? Halliburton for one..
BUSH - doesn't he and his dad own oil... and there are much much more...
keep going??
pick one and look into their history... it's time we stop putting people in office who are there for money... cause that is what causes problems and it's not going to change till we stop the cause, not the problems...
and incase you wondered... the illegal populatoin shot through the fucking roof when Bush got into office... I WONDER WHY??
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/h...l/nn1page1.stm
SO LIKE I SAID DON'T YELL AT A MEXICAN YELL AT THE PEOPLE IN OFFICE WHO BROUGHT THEM HERE TO MAKE THEM MONEY... THEN LEARN SOMETHING BEFORE YOU GET PISSED AGAIN!!!
sorry had to let that out... time to get high and play in the garden... see you all later... by the way here are the email address to congress...
http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html