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:rasta: If i sell lots and lots of weed to people!
haha for talks sakes only of course :P
Technically i know its against the law... so does that mean its wrong! or does that mean its only wrong by what society today deems right and wrong!
i mean surely im helping people! making them happy!
easing the pain! letting them see things in new lights!
Weird!
Sry think my brain is frazzled.........
How do you know when your insane :P
Peace!
There is no heaven or hell. So the only thing you shold worry about is the cops.
Agrees with Esmada.
But then again, I'm not really the religious person.
I can't comment on this.
But hey, if you're helping people, God will see your altruistic side! Ding ding ding... you've been accepted. lol.. I dunno.
... Slowly backs out of thread... :)
God doesn't have a problem with marijuana, or any drug directly derived from a plant. The Bible even indicates God created all the seed-bearing plants and said they were all good, on literally the very first page in Genesis 1:11-12 and 29-30.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaneda7777
The only Biblical restriction placed on cannabis is that we use it with thanksgiving. An example of this is in 1 Timothy 4:1-5, where it even describes who will promote its prohibition as those who have fallen away from the faith.
I agree with Kush Over.
:)
You go to heaven son ;)
If you didnt sell someone else would.
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Originally Posted by Kush Over
That's really cool. I never knew any of that stuff. :)
if you sell it for a good price
It says in the bible to not use your body as a temple. By smoking weed you are doing this. So therefor God WOULD have a problem with you smoking. Just like he WOULD also have problems when u drink alcohol or smoke cigs. So no, you wont be going into "heaven" just for being a drug dealer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kush Over
But, what makes you so sure if God exsist? if he was ALWAYS here, that means there was NEVER a beginging, and that makes no sense. Nothin could of ALWAYS been here. Theres always a start to SOMETHING. and if something DID create God, where did that thing come from? God is aloud of bullshit made up by humans to make them feel better about themselves.
hell is jail
if you sell and get caught you will go to hell
sit in your closet for two days without getting out and see if youd like that
"Nothing i made shall be neglected if it is recieved with thanksgivings"Quote:
Originally Posted by CrAzYpOtHeAd
-God
"It isnt what a man puts in his mouth that makes him unclean, but that which comes out of his mouth makes him unclean"
-God
When speaking about prohibition..." In later times...some shall speak in hypocrisy...commanding that thou shall abstain from that which i made"
-God
"Use my herbs to heal nations and to heal man"
-God
dai*ma:stoned:
A prayer from Atheist(like myself)
Dear God.... please protect me from your followers:D
Is space nothing? If there was absolutly nothing at some point, does that mean somthing just appeared out of nothing?....i know you could do the whole phantom energy, matter turning into anti matter talk.....Quote:
Originally Posted by CrAzYpOtHeAd
But at the end of there day, there really is no proof of anything. No proof that we exist, no proof that god exists, no proof that we made him up.... no proof that he will smite thee for not having failth, resulting in an eternity of pain worse than you could ever imagine.....
Im not religious.....just wanted to make a point that anything is possible really.....or nothing is possible......you decide.
and back on point....I dont think selling weed is a free pass to heaven....I guess it really depends on your morals or somthing...
anyway.....you will/won't know one day either way
Its quite possible that the universe has and will be infinite.
too many people see the universe as the effect and not the cause.
i think if there is a god, he sure as hell wouldnt agree with any of the religions on earth and CERTAINLY wouldnt be associated with a religion under 2000 years old.
The bible says anything you want it to say, you just have to look in the right places.
I was discussing this today with my friend and I told him that I think I do both good and bad but more good then bad so I will most likely go to heaven.I don't know if to believe in heaven and hell because I have seen no real proof of it.
Your going to HELL!! mwhahhahaahha :D
I recall the Bible stating that the body is the temple of God. Not to be used as a temple, you say? There's many contradictions in the Bible, it seems.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrAzYpOtHeAd
Alcohol, a sin? But what of God's own son, Jesus, drinking wine? Too many people want to reshape Jesus as this holy figure that did absolutely nothing wrong, but even to his last days he consumed alcohol. Shit, he even fucking drank while nailed to the cross! They gave him Oxos on the cross, which he drank. Oxos is often translated as vinegar, and can also be translated as cheap wine or sour wine. Still, even if it is vinegar, it contained alcohol that got you fucked up. The one question is -HOW MUCH- he consumed.
In John 2:1 - 10 Jesus creates wine in his first miracle. The "governor of the feast" uses the phrase, "when men have well drunk". The King James Version, or as the new International Version translates it, "guests have had too much to drink."
Now, we all know for people to have become inebriated on the wine is to say that the wine that Jesus created contained alcohol. Nowhere in the Bible does it say the wine he created from water was alcohol free!
But that shouldn't matter to God, right? After all, it's a sin no matter how much you drink! His own son sinning against His wishes -- or the wishes we misinterpreted.
It seems God is a being full of contradictions, and dangerous ones at that.
Ones that threaten to call him a liar, and challenge his very existence.
Fuck the bible! :P its only stories written by stoners who was bored many thousands of years ago, if you belive in the bible you'll belive anything......!
why is everyone thinking about god from a christian viewpoint?
the dude above is right.
the christian belife is full of contradictions, stemming from its use to control the popular masses.
What better way to control the masses than to put the fear of God's wrath in the hearts and minds of the gullible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deloused
I think christianity is very widespread and to me seems like the most popular religion but I live in a very christian society so that is what I mainly learn about.Religion confuses me and I don't know what to believe because you hear different things and things seem to change,I just don't get it.
All religion in our pre schools have been thrown out in the last few years. The Teachers Board say young children shouldnt be persuaded in anyway about any type of religion. When in high school its their choise to take up that subject. Fair play!
Peace
(as you can probably tell i dont belive in any type of "God" )
Religion is a very confusing topic because no human vessel can comprehend the complexities that follow it, much less explain them in anything resembling detail.
So, the primary religion on the British Isles is infact Christianity, eh? Here in American it's one big pot of shit, and the dominant nuggets are Christianity and Islam.
Fucking perfect combination I might add! Grade A.
Well the Bible does say obey the laws of the land so it would be wrong in some sense but I dont think you'd be held accountable because the law is bullshit (even though its still wrong to disobey it lol). But as for selling it to people, no. marijuana is not harmful. Now if you were selling meth or angel dust you might as well be the grim reaper and you would be held accountable. It's almost like assistant suicide even though the people choose to buy it your still the supplier which means if you never sold it they couldnt get it (atleast not from you).
But my family is Christian so this is why I know what the Bible says but I am not a Christian, I'm an Atheist. I think religions are just ridiculous. Humans claimed to have supernatural powers? Healing the blind, curing the deaf? Bringing back a dead man once his organs has already stopped?? Turning water to wine? Walking on water? I think not.
Yes, but the 'laws of the land' the Bible speaks are corrupt misinformation.Quote:
Originally Posted by orangeman
Romans 13:1-7 states: "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor."
The authority?! God's servant?! You must be fucking joking. Reread the entire above quote, except say Rome for each time you see the word "God".
When the Apostle Paul wrote this shit he was under the government of Rome, which was being governed by a cock sucking emperor called Nero. This is another example of the human laws being written over the laws God originally intended.
"..This is also why you pay taxes." Nero had it all planned!
"I need to figure out a way to ween the masses -- use their ignorance as a means to their utter destruction; use them as slaves without their knowledge."
As I say time and time again; What better way to control the masses than to put the fear of God's wrath in the hearts and minds of the gullible.
Now, Acts 5:27-29 states: "Having brought the apostles, they made them appear before the Sanhedrin to be questioned by the high priest. 'We gave you strict orders not to teach in this Name,' he said. 'Yet you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and are determined to make us guilty of this man's blood.' Peter and the other apostles replied: 'WE must obey God rather than men'!"
From the quote above we can clearly see that as long as these 'laws of the land' don't try to supersede the law of God, we are bound to obey. As soon as the law of the land contradicts God's command, we are to obey God's law.
Now let's go back to Genesis 1:11-12 and 29-30 where it states God created all the seeds and deemed them all good. We'll also note to take a look at 1 Timothy 4:1-5 for the part where it describes those who will promote its prohibition as those who have fallen away from the faith.
Might that faith include the TRUE laws of the land?!
What am I to believe -- a book of contradictions, or the lessons in history they represent? :clap:
i think with no religion there would be no peace at this point...Quote:
Originally Posted by Deloused
Its something to guide our society by certain rules i believe..
Even if christianity isnt real it still gets us out of bed everyday pushing ourselves forward to do better in life..
But that's the point!
For what?! Why are we even here if our entire goal is to get out of bed everyday and just strive to push forward?
It's a meaningless existence that can only be justified by creating religions in the first place as a means of consuming time and instilling some form of false hope.
Sorry to be blunt, but it's not cool.
..It's fucking disgusting.
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Originally Posted by kaneda7777
The laws of man do not dictate the laws of God. the vatican thinks they do, they call it dogma - but it's bullshit. I'm not religious, and I've posted my opinion on the existence of God at the end of this post, but I can tell you right now that the law of man is man's law and not God's.
As to whether its a sin or not - sorry, can't help you.
God is an imaginary friend for grown-ups.
weed is good for your body in many ways. It keeps cells new and kills off cancer cells. alcohol and hard drugs are notQuote:
Originally Posted by CrAzYpOtHeAd
also there is no heaven or hell. it was just a name for the other dimensions when they wrote the bible. also they knew about the other dimensions from going there through the use of plants and mushrooms.
when you die and go to your own minds creation of heaven or hell you will find out after getting bored of it that there are many dimensions to travel to. also good and bad are one in the same. for one to exist it needs the other just as light and dark
also the story of heaven and hell was made to keep the sheep in controll
you will be in limbo for all eternity. a souless nothingness.
...so many hopeless people. The bible bouncers are out promoting thier nazi communist agenda just to keep people from seeking the truth. That is not what God teaches! Those people are there to drive people away from true Christianity by promoting a false religion under the name of Christianity. God is not an evil dictator. He gave us free will, and He gave us guidelines to have a happy existance and nowhere does it say anything about marijuana being evil.
You do not have to go by the name Christian to believe. I chose to be a follower of Christ. I'm not here to condemn anybody. If you are a true Christian than you are free from the laws of sin and death. There are no rules for those that have recieved salvation, except to love God and love your nieghbor.
If you have not recieved salvation, than the wages of sin is death. One sin or a million sins, the wages are death (spiritual death a.k.a. hell). The gift of God is eternal life. Freedom from the laws of sin and death through faith in Jesus Christ. Faith that He was God, born of a virgin. Faith that He died to free you from the laws of sin and death, and faith that He rose from the dead because He is God.
God does not send anyone to hell. He died to get you to heaven. The only way to go to hell is to reject God's free gift of salvation. It's there for anyone to take, but if you reject it than it is your own fault for refusing your own life.
So, I do not know where you will go. I cannot tell by looking at you. Nobodys perfect. I can't tell by hearing you. Some say they do, but they don'tand some say they don't when they do. Can't tell by touching you. Don't really care to touch you. Only God can see your heart so I have no way to judge where you'll go. I can just show you the way and hope you'll go. :smokin: