Pro-Torture, Pro-Tyranny Media Rebukes Brave Falun Gong Protester

Pro-Torture, Pro-Tyranny Media Rebukes Brave Falun Gong Protester
Woman who told mass murdering dictator Hu "your days are numbered" grabbed and arrested by secret service
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | April 21 2006

The courageous and awe-inspiring actions of the Falun Gong member who warned China's imperial festering slug dictator Hu Jintao that his "day's were numbered" were met with a reaction that foretells the collapse of America into the exact same style of tyrannical despotism mastered by the absolute rulers of China.

Wang Wenyi, a reporter for The Epoch Times, admonished President Bush to stop Hu from persecuting the Falun Gong and after a couple of minutes was grabbed by secret service agents who are now trying to charge her with intimidating a foreign official.

A foreign official who rules over a Communist jackboot society in which any dissent is crushed by the iron fist of the state.

After listening to talk radio in the hours after the incident, we were sickened to hear radio hosts and callers attacking the demonstrator for daring to interrupt President Bush, claiming that it sent the wrong message to China in that the US was not able to manage geopolitical events smoothly.

They were actually insinuating that it was an American virtue to silence free speech and dissent and that the demonstrator made the country look weak to the visiting Chinese despots.

This was echoed by news anchors across the nation. Watch the video and notice how the CNN presenters express relief when the secret service finally grabs and drags her away.

The Drudge Report picked up stories about how not only Chinese TV but also CNN International had tried to censor the protester.

"On China TV: As Hu was speaking when yells of protesters became audible, the screen went black. When the feed came back the screen once again went black when woman was again heard. During CNN International's post-speech commentary, at mention of south lawn heckler, the screen also went black again. The CNN feed returned when the incident ended."

Derek Mitchell, a former Pentagon advisor told the Associated Press that the spectacle was an embarrassment because China, "must know that this Bush administration is good at controlling crowds for themselves, and the fact that they couldn't control this is going to play to their worse fears and suspicions about the United States, into mistrust about American intentions toward China."

The only embarrassment is Mitchell - he is an embarrassment to what it means to be an American. How dare this boot-licking pond scum piece of trash equate the image of America with crowd control and the wholesale abolition of free speech? The Bush administration's taste for staged-managed public town hall meetings and "free-speech zones" would sit perfectly with the Chinese dictatorship as shining examples of how to create the false perception that dissent is only confined to the fringes of society.

If the Bush administration was really devoted to encouraging freedom around the world then why is it cosying up to and making apologies for the most mechanized and tyrannical police state on planet earth?

US officials involved in Hu's visit were quoted by Reuters expressing their anger that it took more than two minutes to grab Wenyi and worried about how it would reflect on Hu's team of traveling bottom feeding power prostitutes.

The reaction from Bush was to be expected. His apology was not offered to Falun Gong or the millions of other persecuted and tortured for his failure to demand answers from Hu, but to Hu himself for the unfortunate embarrassment it caused.

Are we surprised that a President who has presided over a global torture policy and declared himself to be above the law finds common ground with a sniveling disgusting puss filled worm in the shape of Hu Jintao?

A recent report by Sky News, in which a journalist secretly filmed interviews with Chinese dissidents and peasants, revealed that the Chinese government had enacted a brutal policy of enforced displacement.

The Government and its contractors are seizing people's land and homes and building their own developments on it, forcing the population into living lives of poverty and squalor.

No notification, no legal procedure, no just compensation, the bulldozers and men with machine guns turn up, the inhabitants are dragged out onto the street and the home is demolished.

In countryside areas, the sadistic PLA swoops in on farmers and forcibly ejects them from their own land while communities, showing more backbone than the average American jellyfish, fight and claw back with shovels and farm tools in the face of a highly trained military death squad armed to the teeth with high powered assault weapons.

Massacres on the scale of Tiananmen Square routinely take place with barely a whimper of interest from the western media or governments.
According to Human Rights Watch, the Chinese government is diagnosing anyone who speaks out as having â??political monomania,â?� abducting them and taking them to psychiatric hospitals as part of the notorious Ankang system. There they are subject to re-education brainwashing, forced medication, torture and electric shock therapy.

But these are the lucky ones. Concentration camps like the one at Sujiatun are filled with entire families of peaceful Falun Gong practitioners or even mild dissenters. Vomit inducing organ harvesting procedures are performed on live subjects and their remains cremated to hide the evidence.

The forte of the Chinese dictatorship has always been iron fist totalitarianism spanning back to the days of Mao when people who owned any substantial amount of property were abducted and tortured to death.
Mao's reign of terror claimed the lives of at least 50 million people and yet today the image of Mao in the west has been made into a cuddly caricature of cultural sophistication, with restaurants opening in both the US and UK glorifying a stereotype of mass murder, starvation and dehumanization.

Last year the London Guardian reported that Chinese cosmetics companies are using skin harvested from the corpses of executed convicts to develop beauty products for sale in Europe.

Stories of organ harvesting from political prisoners and Falun Gong members are widespread and confirmed by multiple mainstream sources, including this week the esteemed British Transplantation Society, yet the state department, even contradicting it's own reports, suggested that it is an "urban myth."

China also still has a policy of public execution for dissidents. The country has flirted with mobile execution vans as it shifts away from the communist system's traditional bullet in the head, towards a more "civilized" use of lethal injection.

The issues of forced sterilization and forced abortion have also recently resurfaced in the Communist country. Despite withdrawing some funds for these policies, the Bush administration still bankrolls UNESCO projects which have had direct links to forced abortions and sterilizations.

American corporations like Google and Yahoo follow the orders of their Chinese masters, aiding the creation of the most entrenched system of censorship ever witnessed and reporting pro-freedom activists to the authorities who are later arrested and tortured.

Alex Jones stated plainly that the events we saw unfold yesterday at Bush and Hu's public address illustrate nothing less than the fact that we are living in a dictatorship.

"Worship of unbridled power leads to tyranny. Tyranny to slavery and slavery to unimagined human degradation, humiliation and genocide. To watch my fellow countrymen make excuses for the unarguably most evil and longest lasting despotism, the Communist Chinese, causes me to realize that America for all intents and purposes is gone," said Jones.

"Our elite is wedded to the corrupt elite of China and they're waging war against free humans everywhere. To see decadent westerners making excuses for Bush and China is the height of folly but we must understand that the average American associates themselves with the power structure and doesn't realize that their life their liberty their destiny is cheaper than dirt to the infinitely corrupt New World Order."

"Our civilization is run and controlled by degenerate sadistic psychopathic control freak filth. Killing is their business and business is good."

"They're killing America."

I KNEW that a story about Falun Gong would be posted, due to their totally inappropriate actions regarding China and the U.S.

This is a CULT, and I see their practitioners on the streets of NYC every day - they stand out on the streets wearing "blood", and posing in cages, while giving out literature - most of it against the Chinese government. They are crazy, and their leader is either a shrewd manipulator, or insane. Here's a little about it. You can click on the link below for the rest of the article. They believe that we are controlled by, get this, "aliens" through our computers. They are against medicine, and are also against employment. They believe in "superhuman powers", and levitation, as well. They've been know to have women and children commit suicide as acts of martyrdom.



This is the entire article: http://www.rickross.com/reference/fa.../falun286.html


Interview with Li Hongzhi
Time Asia/May 10, 1999 (Excerpt)

On April 26, Erping Zhang, a close associate of Li Hongzhi, the mysterious leader of the Falun Gong religious movement, called TIME in New York to say that major events were transpiring in Beijing. "It looks as though quite a few people have shown up," he said. When we asked how many, he guessed that it might be 10,000. "But this is getting bigger," he said. "They are planning to go to the government offices." As it turned out, Zhang was correct. At least 10,000 Falun Gong members gathered in front of Zhongnanhai, the seat of China's government, to demand recognition from authorities and freedom to practice their beliefs. The demonstration appeared to indicate that Falun Gong--which may have as many as 100 million adherents worldwide, mainly in China--is tightly organized. But Zhang insists that the protest was "spontaneous."

A few weeks before the demonstration, TIME interviewed Li Hongzhi, the soft-spoken 47-year-old creator of Falun Gong, in Manhattan where he settled after leaving China a year ago. Li believes the ancient Chinese art of qigong (Falun Gong is one variation) can endow practitioners with superhuman powers. He also says the world is in chaos today because the human race has been invaded by aliens from other planets who hope to challenge mankind through scientific means, especially through human cloning. If Li's ideas seem far fetched, it is worth noting that he has fans and followers worldwide. On Oct. 11, 1996, Houston mayor Robert C. Lanier proclaimed the date to be Li Hongzhi Day. Li was interviewed in New York by TIME correspondent William Dowell. He spoke in Chinese and Zhang acted as interpreter.

yeah, throw that evil protesting bitch in prison for 6 months, that'll teach her not to even think about asking a Lord a question or daring to speak to one at all. what is this, America? we must bow down to the communist dictator! hooray for jailing political dissidents, hooray for harvesting their organs, hooray for slave labor camps!!

i've seen the falun gong on local access TV, it's so incredibly evil.

when our dictator meets with their dictator, we must have no opposition.

Feds lower boom on Hu's Falun Gong heckler

TRACY CONNOR / NY Daily News | April 22 2006

U.S. authorities are taking a hard line against the New York doctor who heckled President Bush and Chinese President Hu Jintao - hitting her with a federal charge that carries six months in prison.

Wenyi Wang, 47, a devotee of the Falun Gong movement, was originally booked on a disorderly conduct charge after she crashed Thursday's White House ceremony.

But the U.S. attorney's office later decided to charge her with harassing, intimidating and threatening a foreign official for yelling at Hu that his "days are numbered."

At a court hearing in Washington, defense lawyer David Bos said she shouldn't face any criminal charges because she was exercising her free-speech rights. "It's making the First Amendment rights of all Americans just evaporate," he said.

Prosecutor Angela George argued that because Wang's tirade was personally directed at Hu, it wasn't protected speech.

Wang, who used a temporary press pass from a Falun Gong newspaper to get into the ceremony, was released without bail.

Shortly after her release, Wang read a statement to reporters, saying her protest was "not a crime, but an act of civil disobedience."

She later told CNN she wanted Bush to know the extent of human rights violations in China. "I don't think he knows the most severe, unspeakable crime going on in China," she said.

Falun Gong, a spiritual movement, is banned by China, and its leaders claim Hu's government has persecuted and harvested the organs of followers.

Protests followed Hu to Yale University, the last stop on his U.S. tour. A CNN reporter was ejected from a ceremony at the school after shouting out a question to Hu.

CNN Reporter Thrown Out Of Ceremony For Asking Chinese President A Question...

AP | April 22 2006

Chinese President Hu Jintao ended his four-day U.S. tour Friday with a visit to Yale University, where he sought to quell fears about the international effects of his country's booming economy and pledged continued cooperation with the United States.

Several blocks away, hundreds of protesters on the City Green waved signs and shouted anti-communist and anti-government slogans in Chinese.

"When you get within 5,000 yards of one of these bigwigs, I think it's your responsibility as a human being to try and tell them something," said freshman Edwin Everhart, 19, coordinator of Amnesty International at Yale.

Pro-government demonstrators also waved signs, some reading: "Warmly Welcome Chairman Hu Jintao to the United States" and "Bring China-U.S. relations closer."

Yale President Richard Levin met privately Friday morning with Hu, but like the Chinese leader's earlier welcome in Washington, not everything went as planned. (Details)

A CNN reporter was thrown out of the welcoming ceremony after he shouted a question about whether Hu had seen the protesters gathered on the city green, school officials said. Yale spokeswoman Helene Kalsky said the reporter was thrown out because he was invited "to cover an event, not to hold a press conference."

Hu answered two questions from the crowd during his speech, both of which had been submitted in advance. He was asked whether China was concerned that limiting political freedom would cause social unrest that could undermine the economic growth.

He said China is committed to democracy.

"China's political system suits its economic development," Hu said.

Hu opened his speech by quipping "if time could go back several decades I would really like to be a student of Yale, just like you."

Yale, President Bush's alma mater, has long had ties to China. In the 1800s, it was the first U.S. university to graduate a Chinese student, and it now has more than 80 academic collaborations with Chinese institutions and offers 26 study sites in China.

Hu met with Bush in Washington on Thursday, and the two leaders said it was a productive summit meeting. (Watch the ceremony Bush threw for Hu at the White House -- 3:00)

The two leaders pledged cooperation but did not break new ground on resolving the economic issues, including the big U.S. trade deficit with China.

U.S. critics of China's trade policies were unimpressed.

"The president failed to make any significant progress in talks with his Chinese counterpart," complained Kevin Kearns, president of the U.S. Business and Industry Council, which represents around 1,500 small and medium-sized manufacturing companies.

The welcoming ceremony in Washington earlier Thursday was marred by a security breach when a Falun Gong backer screamed at the Chinese president about persecution of the group. The woman had obtained a temporary White House pass, and Bush later apologized. (Watch what the heckler and others were protesting about -- 1:33)

Hu also visited Washington state and officials of Microsoft Corp. and Boeing Co. in an effort to emphasize support for expanded U.S. exports to China.

Many American manufacturers contend that the Chinese yuan is undervalued by as much as 40 percent, making Chinese products cheaper for American consumers and American goods more expensive in China.

In New Haven, police estimated that at least 1,000 people gathered on the City Green.

"Falun Dafa is good!" some shouted, using another name for Falun Gong. "Down with Jiang Zemin! Down with Hu Jintao! Resolutely oppose the Communist Party!"

Everhart, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina, wore a "Free China" headband. "I'm here because I'm against the torture, the death penalty and nuclear weapons," he said.

The pro-government demonstrators waved scarlet signs written in Chinese.

"We are here to show our love to our country and show our enthusiasm to our president's visit to Yale university," said Zhou Jun, a Yale graduate student and Chinese citizen.

The Falun Gong nutjobs do not seem to understand that their crackpot religion is not going to be accepted in China. If they had kept it underground, and not gone out on evengelical missions, they'd have been smarter - but if they were "smart", they wouldn't join a destructive, superstituous, life-denying cult like that in the first place.

That "doctor" should be turned over to the Chinese, rather than jailed at our expense. Better yet, Bush should have walked over to her and yelled, "Shut up! Just shut up!", at her.

What you see on your local access Falun Gong program is what they want you to see.

If the KKK, or a similar organization, had interrupted the proceedings at this event, would you be so quick to defend them? I'm sure that they'd get at least as much jail time as the Falun Gong person is getting - if not MORE. :dance:

guess it all depends on the context doesnt it.....the fulan gong member was making a legitimate protest about china's (rather dodgy) human rights record - which is rather convieniently brushed under the carpet on both sides of the Atlantic due to China's huge economic clout. So this shouldnt be an issue of what the fulan gong do or do not belive - but rather an issue of why it takes some "nutjob protester" to raise the issue in the first place. The administration were pretty belicose over human rights abuses in Iraq and are happy to berate countries like Iran and Cuba for not giving their citizens the same democratic freedoms as are enjoyed in the US (sic) but as soon as economic considerations are brought into play, any moral posturing is quietly dropped.....

unless there is a truly free media then you are going to force people to more extreme actions to make their voices heard.....US media is so kowtowed to the republicans that it doesnt provide any genuine pressure valve for dissent...

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guess it all depends on the context doesnt it.....the fulan gong member was making a legitimate protest about china's (rather dodgy) human rights record - which is rather convieniently brushed under the carpet on both sides of the Atlantic due to China's huge economic clout. So this shouldnt be an issue of what the fulan gong do or do not belive - but rather an issue of why it takes some "nutjob protester" to raise the issue in the first place. The administration were pretty belicose over human rights abuses in Iraq and are happy to berate countries like Iran and Cuba for not giving their citizens the same democratic freedoms as are enjoyed in the US (sic) but as soon as economic considerations are brought into play, any moral posturing is quietly dropped.....

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thank you. at least someone recognizes the doublethink.

The U.S. does not support human rights abuses in China - but they are a formidable power in the world. Their political system is not as old as their customs, which predate ours.

A few years ago John Edwards, a Democrat, was supporting the Falun Gong movement - which is as bad, or worse, than the cult of Rev. Moon, Scientology, and others.

While it is true that the Republicans have a stranglehold on the political system in the U.S. right now, and have considerable influence in the media. the fault is partially due to the Democrats' inability to create a viable and workable party platform. The fact is that there is really no difference between the two parties, and any attempt by the Democrats to deny this usually results in their losing more support.

The United States has, for better or worse, cracked down on certain cults and dangerous movements - and there have been a number of cases of U.S. marshals and other law enforcement officials acting on Court orders to take actions similar to those that the Chinese are accused of taking with regards to the Falun Gong. We really can't preach to them, because our policies are very similar to many that are in place over there.

Personally, I do not like communism, or the falun gong. But, my view is that this falun gong religion is worse than the current political system in China.

i'd certainly agree about the failure of democracy in the US...unfortunately the only way to bring in some true accountability for the two main parties would be to scrap the current system and replace it with a simple 1 man 1 vote.....that way you give smaller groups and parties the ability to enter the political system through coalition government.....of course its never going to happen - like they say - turkeys arent going to vote for christmas.....

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Either way they have the right to practice there religion just as the mormons do.
The fact that she was taken is is bad the fact she was charged with something is godamn ridiculus. I hope you know that if you ever interrupt lord bush or any other goverment official the same thing will happen to you. And that the precedent is set most likely we won't hear about it. Just to add you'll be fucked 3 times sideways.

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Either way they have the right to practice there religion just as the mormons do.
The fact that she was taken is is bad the fact she was charged with something is godamn ridiculus. I hope you know that if you ever interrupt lord bush or any other goverment official the same thing will happen to you. And that the precedent is set most likely we won't hear about it. Just to add you'll be fucked 3 times sideways.

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Many Mormons are nice people, but did you know that they believe that a man should have multiple wives? They are not allowed to do this - but some do anyway. 60 thousand Mormons in Utah practice Polygamy - about 5% of them.http://www.absalom.com/mormon/polygamy/faq.htm

The last thing in the world that we have to worry about is the "rights" of weird religions. The mainstream ones are bad enough - in fact, their beliefs are more responsible for the hideous state of world affairs than any other single factor.

And yes, I know that I would be arrested if I "interrupted Lord Bush" - and I agree with this law. Interrupting ANY president, or the proceedings, at a formal gathering is illegal.

The last thing in the world that we have to worry about is the "rights" of weird religions. The mainstream ones are bad enough - in fact, their beliefs are more responsible for the hideous state of world affairs than any other single factor.


lol

too true :)

I think it's more of a shame on our country than thiers... we're suppose to be fighting this glonal war for freedom, yet our preisdent does nothing about it in China and wants to make it look like cookies and milk when he gets here?? How can we go into Iraq and Iran and kill 350,000 people because their dictator killed 1,000ish (maybe) yet we have a rich warm welcome for a dictator who kills thousands a year... have neuclear power.... does not allow many personal freedoms??

Cowardness if you call me... we can pick on the weak Muslims and call them all terrorist, but we have to apologize to a leader who takes away his people's freedom so much they'll face jail time to just talk about it.

Should she have done it no... but should we as a nation have no idea this is going on in China without her doing it HELL NO...

gumby were you talking about this dictator..... Saddam Hussien

1,000ish (maybe)........................100,000ish more like

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War

With more than 100,000 Iranian victims[1] of Iraq's chemical and biological weapons during the eight-year war, Iran is, after Japan, one of the world's top afflicted countries by Weapons of Mass Destruction.

The official estimate does not include the civilian population contaminated in bordering towns or the children and relatives of veterans, many of whom have developed blood, lung and skin complications, according to the Organization for Veterans of Iran.

Nerve gas agents killed about 20,000 Iranian soldiers immediately, according to official reports. Of the 90,000 survivors, some 5,000 seek medical treatment regularly and about 1,000 are still hospitalized with severe, chronic conditions. Many others were hit by mustard gas.

Furthermore, 308 Iraqi missiles were launched at population centers inside Iranian cities between 1980 and 1988 resulting in 12,931 casualties.[1]

There is great resentment in Iran that the international community helped Iraq develop its chemical weapons arsenal and armed forces, and also that the world did nothing to punish Iraq for its use of chemical weapons against Iran throughout the war â?? particularly since the US and other western powers later felt obliged to oppose the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and eventually invade Iraq itself to remove Hussein

Breukelen was right, Falun Gong is nothing more than a cult. My mother-in-law, a Chinese citizen living in China, got mixed up with them a while back. I don't know all the details but she got very sick because they told her not to take medication that she needed. She also ended up giving away huge amounts of her life saving, jewelry, etc to the Falun Gong. Eventually my wife and brother-in-law persuaded her to stop following those idiots. Now, several years later, she has absoluetky nothing good to say about them.

Anti-China folks like to point out that China persecutes anyone who is religious. This is absolutely false. Chinese are free to follow any of the established religions. In fact, the most incredible church I've ever seen, architechturally speaking, was in Shanghai. They have no tolerance, however, for weird cults whose activities make one or two people incredibly wealthy while ruining the lives of their followers.

That being said, I don't think the nut job should be charged with anything. She should have been escorted out of the building and nothing more. No need to come up with some riduculous charges just because he embarrassed Dubya. Shit, he does it to himself every time he opens his mouth.

DON'T WORRY,,,,,THERE ARE NO TERRORISTS:rolleyes:

Toll from Egypt blasts rises to 30 dead -- officials
Monday 24 April 2006, 2:58pm EST
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CAIRO, April 24 (Reuters) - The death toll from blasts at the Egyptian Red Sea resort of Dahab on Monday has risen to 30, rescue officials in Sinai said.

The officials, who asked not to be named, said the number of wounded was more than 100. But Said Issa, the director of rescue services in South Sinai province, said the number of wounded was 160, with some in critical condition.
http://today.reuters.com/business/ne...&imageid=&cap=

Bush is USAMA--err wait were talking about the Decider and his pet HU. Why was there no real investigation into 911..........Terrorist live in the WHITEHOUSE

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gumby were you talking about this dictator..... Saddam Hussien

1,000ish (maybe)........................100,000ish more like

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War

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then why are they making a big deal out of a letter he wrote telling to kill 140 people?? If he killed 100,000 why worry about 140??

And is still is a hell of a lot less than 350,000 <--- the number bush has killed...

what makes killing one person better than killing another is all I ask... why is it OK for us to kill 350,000 people and yet completly wrong for someone else to kill 10 people? Are we not terrorist as well??

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Anti-China folks like to point out that China persecutes anyone who is religious. This is absolutely false. Chinese are free to follow any of the established religions. In fact, the most incredible church I've ever seen, architechturally speaking, was in Shanghai. They have no tolerance, however, for weird cults whose activities make one or two people incredibly wealthy while ruining the lives of their followers.

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its a bit much to accuse someone highlighting China's less than impeccible human rights record as "anti Chinese." That's certainly not the case - im not anti-chinese any more than i am anti-american because i disagree with Bush's policies or anti-iranian because their PMs a righwing bigot.....im not anti any country - they've all populated by mostly nice folks with a few jerks who give the rest of them a bad name.....
it's pretty disingenious to paint china as a tolerant society based on church
architecture.....main religions are tolerated only as long as they dont threaten the one party state.....as for any kind of trade unions, student unions, democratic forums, political parties, free politcal discourse on tv, radio, newspapers or online - forget it - unless that is you don't mind a lengthy prison stay. You seem to be missing the point slightly by focusing on the negative characteristics of the fulan gong - they are not persecuted in china because of some nanny state attempt to protect the populace from their teachings - but because any anti-CCP sentiment is harshly dealt with...whether that comes from a wacky cult or not.

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its a bit much to accuse someone highlighting China's less than impeccible human rights record as "anti Chinese." That's certainly not the case - im not anti-chinese any more than i am anti-american because i disagree with Bush's policies or anti-iranian because their PMs a righwing bigot.....im not anti any country - they've all populated by mostly nice folks with a few jerks who give the rest of them a bad name.....
it's pretty disingenious to paint china as a tolerant society based on church
architecture.....main religions are tolerated only as long as they dont threaten the one party state.....as for any kind of trade unions, student unions, democratic forums, political parties, free politcal discourse on tv, radio, newspapers or online - forget it - unless that is you don't mind a lengthy prison stay. You seem to be missing the point slightly by focusing on the negative characteristics of the fulan gong - they are not persecuted in china because of some nanny state attempt to protect the populace from their teachings - but because any anti-CCP sentiment is harshly dealt with...whether that comes from a wacky cult or not.

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Hey Andy, didn't mean to accuse you of being anti-Chinese. You're comment of "they've all populated by mostly nice folks with a few jerks who give the rest of them a bad name" shows that you are far more intelligent than a great deal of Americans who can'tseem to differentiate between a counties govt and its people.

My post was mainly to agree with Breukelen about his comment of Falun Gong being a cult. And, to point out that it is wrong for people, who are "anti-China", to use the Falun Gong of an example of China's oppression of religion. I have no doubt that the enthusiasm the Chinese govt has for going after the Falun Gong has much to do with the fact that they are so critical of the Chinese govt. but that is similar to the old chicken or the egg deal. Is the Falun Gong presecuted because they are critcal of the govt? Or, are the Falun Gong critcal of the govt because they were persecuted?

I've lived in China and have my own experience with the terribley corrupt govt. Trust me, I've got some stories that Pissy would have a field day with and I have no doubt that my exepriences are just the tip of the iceberg. Still, I have to say that China is terribly misunderstood by most Americans. Our media does a wonderful job of villianizing China by seizing isolated incidents and blowing them out of proportion or taking them out of context. I just try to point them out when I see them.

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DON'T WORRY,,,,,THERE ARE NO TERRORISTS:rolleyes:

Toll from Egypt blasts rises to 30 dead -- officials
Monday 24 April 2006, 2:58pm EST
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CAIRO, April 24 (Reuters) - The death toll from blasts at the Egyptian Red Sea resort of Dahab on Monday has risen to 30, rescue officials in Sinai said.

The officials, who asked not to be named, said the number of wounded was more than 100. But Said Issa, the director of rescue services in South Sinai province, said the number of wounded was 160, with some in critical condition.
http://today.reuters.com/business/ne...&imageid=&cap=

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Yeh..........I saw that on the BBC news channel.......and even though many had been killed it was almost given a light hearted aspect with the phrase "Thankfuly it doesn't look like suicide bombers and may not be the work of Al qeuda"

I dont think the dead and wounded give a monkeys about who did it.

Back to Falun Gong, I have seen many reports about them..........The medication one is scary.....Bi-Polar and other people being told not to take medicines.....Im sure but not 100% that even insulin use by diabitics is frowned on.

I dont likethe oppresation of free speech wether a goverment does it to its people or a cult does it to there members

Peace rips

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I have to say that China is terribly misunderstood by most Americans. Our media does a wonderful job of villianizing China by seizing isolated incidents and blowing them out of proportion or taking them out of context.

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I'd certainly agree about the media's anti-chinese slant....im from the uk but spent 3 yrs over in japan - so i'd watch a lot of CNN (and fox occasionally for a laugh...) it would always amaze me how negative the coverage was....you'd always have some right wing biggot like lou dobbs banging on about how china was "stealing" US jobs and US technology (when he'd finished his one man immigration campaign...) You got the impression that he couldnt believe the sheer audacity of China in challenging the US world hegemony.....like it was some US divine right to be the only global superpower....it seems like some sections of the media are out to demonise china in order to bolster a US protectionist agenda.....The US media's scary - makes you appreciate the BBC!

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were u teaching English in China? I was teaching in Japan.....anyone who's interested do it! program called JET - good money, great people, fantastic country :)

andy

Hey if i say i've been to China would y'all buy my words:dance: :smokin: