Closet grow going cabnet Scrog

Ok i have some purple hase bagseed that was pretty good i got 5 seeds from a dub but i started 4 of them under 1 cfl then transplanted them to 2 gal buckets in doing so i broke a stem of one and it suverily stunted its growth i started adding superthrive soon after and it started to pick up but still allot slower at this point i have added a strip of cfls 3 42w and 2 of the 26 white and one 17 warm with a house fan blowing on them it is all under 24/0 light and they where toped at there 5th big fan leaf witch i have cut all of the fan leafs off up till the topping due to being in the way starting to show signs of sex but not yet....

ok where i live is a relatives house i rent and he is to be coming in town in a month to stay for a day and stay in town for 2 weeks i plan on moving them into a hallow dresser where i can access them thru the back one 4in fan on bottom of backing and one on top for ex. above and bellow screen 1'' chicken wire is what im going to use then im going to have 2 4'' holes in bottom of dresser for intake but activated carbon sheet over ex. while puttin all the existing cfls in there for lighting but all the 42w red spec for flowering im waiting till they show sex before i scrog also will mylar the inside of dresser hopefully this will go good any sug. are welcome


btw temps are 80 even with house ac at 76 but no outside air in closet...

i realy like justaseed's grow cab

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Originally Posted by NeonSage

they where toped at there 5th big fan leaf witch i have cut all of the fan leafs off up till the topping due to being in the way starting to show signs of sex but not yet....

i realy like justaseed's grow cab

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don't cut off fan leaves! your yeilds will suffer and the buds will not be as dense. i know this from 1st hand experience. the only leaves i used to cut were very few above the screen that were shading budsites.

also keep your eye on temps once the screen is installed. i have found that the screen tends to block airflow as the buds fill in. i had to add a second active intake above the screen in all my cabinets.

also i have to mention that those are some nice looking plants. don't rush them, they'll show sex in there own time, they always do. btw, thanks for the compliment. keep up the good work, you seem to have things planned out well.

hopefully they show sex soon though i only have 3 weeks before they have to be in the dresser and under a screen but to bad i didnt read this an hour sooner i just trimmed more around bottom to get better access to soil... i am going to get a new camera this one sucks so you will see some better pics soon mabie i will take step by step of makeing dresser need to find out wich are males first though sigh....

thanks for the advice id like to see more of your cab mabie we can hook up on email so i can see more. i dont like to put a hole lot on a site where any dea agent can see what is going on

i don't have a grow currently but this is my old scrog thread with tons of pics and good info.
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=52326

Looked at the girls yesterday and one plant was realy drooppy felt the soil it was realy dry then i felt the others and they where fine so i watered till it ran out and checked it in a couple hours it it was up again i guess i forgot to water one... looked at them today and the oldest one had some tiny balls the middle child had phat sticks and the other is a couple days behind so nothing new there gonna give them a few more days to show before i have some fun killing off the males hope im lucky im shootin for 2 outa 4 50 50 chanceby the way im useing jungle growth pretty good stuff im thinking about putting in the dresser and not scrogin then wait a little while and scrog in a spare bedroom with my boys 400w hps but not shure if i wana deal with heat and if i only get 2 females of course it whould be overkill right? none the less but whould the heat be worth it? also is it ok im not giveing it any outside air or co2? i dont have a windo open or anything because the temp whould go up even more right now with doors open 1 inch on both sides the closet is at 77.9 with house unit at 74...

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Originally Posted by justaseed

i don't have a grow currently but this is my old scrog thread with tons of pics and good info.
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=52326

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do you have any pics of it being built or training into the screen? and you had a 400w hps in the cab? lots o heat or what? i whould think that might be a freebee to the house up in flames lol...

i had alot of ventillation so the temps never got above 78 and usually it was more like 74-76. also i used 2 or 3 plant scrogs most of the time under the 400hps. i will check through my old pics for you to see if i can find "training" pics.

well right now im hopeing for 2 females so i figure get the dresser made asap then give 2 weeks for it to grow in to the screen then i should flip the light right? last night i set the timer on 18/6 figure that might help with the sexing make them think that winter is comeing but slowly i dont think i can have more than 2 plants in the dresser and my time is running short for being in the closet got till may 19th before i have to have them in the dresser and with the carbon scruber made i hate not have my landlord be my family cause i whould be gone iff he found it even the dreer is risking it... i hate life... and no outside air for those badboys? also did you need a fan for the intake i figured that the fans out when make the holes pull in air... i realy want to go hps but i need this to be low key and have no heat issues and i guess i could put the cfl's for extra corner lighting and for veg when these babys are done. i might make another cabnet for veg when the time comes just even more risky...

just as an update i put the babies in the shower and watered the soil till it started pouring out then i waited and did it again about 2 mins after for each plant with no superthrive just cause i have been giveing them it for awhile decided it might be good for them to not have it all the time i also tossed the one with balls they started getting on every node very small though i put in my living room for now for deceration lol give the girls some more room hopefully they will get a good groth spurt so i can finish sexing now im down to the smallest at 10'' then the middle at 13'' and the tallest at 16'' wich sucks cause i was gona put the screen at 16'' but o well a little higher it must go the smaller one got a groth stunt due to me completly breaking the stem and it takeing a good bit of time rebuilding but the root structor was realy good better then all the others when i transplanted it gota get new digi cam im slamed with needing a new car for my girl and new house all at the same time

also just a seed what did you get out of that ww scrog for that harvest? and that is 1'' right?

my 400hps scrog(ww) used to yeild 10-14oz and my cfl scrog yeilded 4-5oz. when you put the screen on you puswh it onto the plant so a 16 inch plant could be only 8-10inches after the screen is installed. i have had plants that were well over 3ft tall be shortened to 20" or so after installing the screen. i always had better results pushing the screen onto a larger plant rather than letting a smaller plant grow up to the screen. good luck with the landlord.

ohhh ok i always thought u let it grow into it do you have any links to the style of scroging you use i realy like the result and if i can get 10oz on a 400hps with 2 plants that whould be sweet but im not shure what kind of plant it is inka or what just purple bagseed not shure how it is going to react to the screen but i think i got 2 females so far and one more way smaller to show sex still but the girls (i hope) arent showing any hairs yet but they have phat sticks kinda with no balls so im pretty shure think i might give through the small one away or force flower it and if its a female give it away as clones or what but im not gonna have room for it expecialy since it is so much smaller in size it cant be in the screen pluss its streching cause the light is high for the other plants.. i also had to raise the lights again... lol

also seed i seen how you used 2'' wire and you made it down to smaller with twist ties.. are they regular twist ties for like bread? just thinking of not wanting to redo stuff due to the plant streching and pulling on the ties. i just wana get the most out of this as i can but still trying to keep it low key and low budjet that is the trickiest part also do you have a link to any good scrog 411?

you can buy sturdy twists at home depot, it's just a long roll of twist ties.

a tip for keeping the smaller plant from stretching is putting someting under it to raise it up to the height of the other plants, i used a set of legos for this.

sorry i don't have any good scrog links, the stuff i knew about was on og and we all know what happened to that.

yea but the only thing is if i keep it under screen they will grow at diffrent rates it whould be alot smaller then the other when they are done cause the flower time is still going to be the same right? just one plant will not yeild as much as the bigger ones... or should i just use it for clones if it turns out female and scrog with them later when the time comes? how long does it take before clones are ready for a screen? just wondering if i have enought time to scrog these 2 and and wait till they are done and then through the clones under the screen. i know clones dont take ass long cause you dont have to wait for it to sprout and all that but how long. ive never worked with clones before but i like the idea for the clone bubler you did with not useing hormones and if i could keep a mother that whould be awsome then every time the scrog finishes i slat 2 more in there... also you said you had 6 plants in a scrog that size before? how much room can one plant use if trained right? for a 4x4 space on a 400hps how many plants whould be perfect and get the most out of it?

the number of plants makes no difference to the yeild as long as the screen is full. depending on how big the plants were i would put 2, 3, 4 or as you mentioned even 6 plants under the 2x4 screen. the yeilds were always about the same. anywhere from 10oz with the worst harvest to 14oz was my best harvest.

it doesn't matter if one plant is bigger than the other just use something to raise the smaller 1 up. if they are the same strain they should take about the same time to flower.

now to answer your question about clones. clones take anywhere from 7-21 days to root depending on the strain. once rooted you put them in 16oz keg cups or similar container. i used promix. they take 1-3 days to get used to the "dirt" and begin growing. then it's up to you how long you wanna veg for.

hope this helps!

soo as an update i am down to 1 plant i gave the little buddy away and i am only left with 1 female outa 4 plants there goes the superthrive makes females i was reading lol wel she is sitting in at 22'' hopefully i will put the screen down soon before its too late she is growing very strong ive been holding back on the superthrive ive only been giveing her superthrive every other water witch is about every other day or so do you think a 400 hps whould be to much overkill for one plant? even if i let it veg more to let the screen fill more? just a thought

alright so heres an update witch pics going to water with superthrive tonight after the last water was pure h2o hairs started pooping up on certain branches so shes telling me shes ready but im not looked at dressers tonight found something that will work perfectily but its $130 wich sucks but o well gota do it

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well heres an update and its bad it has started yellowing very bad and ideas as to what it could be? i guess i should get a ph tester and see where im at...

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Originally Posted by NeonSage

well heres an update and its bad it has started yellowing very bad and ideas as to what it could be? i guess i should get a ph tester and see where im at...

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pH tester... good idea... :)

going to repot today into 5gal bucket with jungle growth and going to be picking up distilled water instead of tap water... will post when i find my ph

ok so repotting is all done she was root bound as a mofo put her in a 5 gal bucket with no drain holes i also picked up a moisture ph and light meter so my ph was at 8 then i watered with distilled with one drop superthrive and after waiting awhile the ph read 7 so what is the ph of distilled? should i get some ph down to bring it to 6.5?

also i was just useing regular tap water just switched to distilled

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Originally Posted by NeonSage

ok so repotting is all done she was root bound as a mofo put her in a 5 gal bucket with no drain holes i also picked up a moisture ph and light meter so my ph was at 8 then i watered with distilled with one drop superthrive and after waiting awhile the ph read 7 so what is the ph of distilled? should i get some ph down to bring it to 6.5?

also i was just useing regular tap water just switched to distilled

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Hello again NeSeage,

Nice work on the 5 gallon buckets... but, why no drainage holes?

Congrats on the pH meter and the light meter!
Can you report anything on the light meter? About how much did it cost?

The distilled water will be better than the tap water... but I don't know the readings of it... ?

Looking good Ne... :dance:

(more pics!)

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Originally Posted by turtle420

Hello again NeSeage,

Nice work on the 5 gallon buckets... but, why no drainage holes?

Congrats on the pH meter and the light meter!
Can you report anything on the light meter? About how much did it cost?

The distilled water will be better than the tap water... but I don't know the readings of it... ?

Looking good Ne... :dance:

(more pics!)

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no drain holes due to nothing under it to keep from flooding my closet lol gota get something do you think it whould be alright for drains to be on side instead of bottom?


the ph light and moisture meter was 5 dollars at lowes by the lawn furniture by the garden pain in the ass to find i only wanted a ph meter but hey a all in one for the same price

i work with pools so im gonna see if our test will be alright but it only goes as low as 7 so not going to be much good if its lower but tap here is 7.4 not shure if superthrive will effect the ph?

i got 2 clones from her today cut them diped them in water and then rooting hormone then stuck them in soil and im hopeing i dont need a hood to keep moisture in but we will see

also an update on the plant that was stunted early in life that hasent shown sex yet

one of the clones has 3 sets of leafs pretty cool dont even know if there gonna make it just a test... on with the pics

Neon, if you are useing soil to clone I would use a dome of some sorts as you need the humidity high, however if you water clone of any sorts, no dome is needed