Nazi symbol w/Eagle and American seal w/eagle and religious icon

Check out the similarities between the symbols of nazi germany and the great seal of the us.

the swastika in origin is an asian symbol which stands for peace and god. the Nazis used religious occult imagery in their propaganda and literature.

on the US great seal, the star of david which is connected to Egyptian mystery schools is right above the eagle. also the eagle is holding the arrows for war. but olive for peace. similar wing appearance as the US's is half out, as nazi germany's eagle is wide out.

when you look at it now, you wonder why we never paid attention to this shit. its right in front of us! the problem is acceptance.

hmm...

what the hell are you babbling about?

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Originally Posted by opiuser

what the hell are you babbling about?

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Yeah this thread goes nowhere... I mean yeah two eagles will always look alike, am I right??

yes, it's just two eagles.

check out the dutch and luxembourg flag.

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Originally Posted by Hollandica

yes, it's just two eagles.

check out the dutch and luxembourg flag.

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My god how blind are you people?! Clearly it is no coincidence that there are eagles followed by religious icons on both of their seals, it almost makes me want to cry its so obvious. Remember that fascism and religion go hand in hand! I think you just have a problem with acceptance.

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

My god how blind are you people?! Clearly it is no coincidence that there are eagles followed by religious icons on both of their seals, it almost makes me want to cry its so obvious. Remember that fascism and religion go hand in hand! I think you just have a problem with acceptance.

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My God, how retarded are you! The reason that it is no concidence that you see similar imagery in the flags, crests, coins and currency of "Western" countries, is that we all share a common Greco-Roman heritage that extensively used eagles, arrows, olive branches, victory columns, ad infinitum...

Swastika-like images are found on just about any Hindu, Buddhist, or Shinto temple throughout south and east Asia...

I commend you on your powers of observation - to be able to find similarities between various cultures is a great mental feat - unfortunately it is about as relevant as a flea on Jessica Simpson's ass...

Check out the similarities between the Miller High Life logo "the girl in the moon" and the flag of Comoros...

Bhutan has a very scary flag, too...

so are you calling Free Masons evil now?

The design of first seal of the President of the United States of America was designed by Benjamin Franklin, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson at the request of the Continental Congress. The design was approved on June 20, 1782.
The seal pictures an American bald eagle holding a ribbon in its beak; the ribbon has the motto of the USA, "E PLURIBUS UNUM," meaning "Out of many, one." The eagle is clutching an olive branch (with 13 olives and 13 leaves) in one foot (symbolizing peace) and 13 arrows in the other (the 13 stands for the original 13 colonies and the arrows symbolize the acceptance of the need to go to war to protect the country).

A shield is in front of the eagle; the shield has 13 red and white stripes (representing the original 13 colonies) with a blue bar above it (it symbolizes the uniting of the 13 colonies and represents congress). Above the eagle are rays, a circle of clouds, and 13 white stars.
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/cra...reatseal.shtml

You are definately a dumb ass!:thumbsup:

ok well ive been reading on this site for a long time and i never really say anything because i just like to read about the shit that other stoners are talking about, but this great spirit person has merely been trying to HELP a few people out by posting some really important information that EVERYONE should know about, but this truth keeps getting shot down because no one wants to actually believe that the bush administration is trying to take over the world the same way the nazis did in the 1930's. they may not be trying to take over the world, but the people in charge are very aware of this demonic kind of image we are creating for ourselves, and with all the war already taking place getting a whole hell of a lot worse with each new day (iraq war surpassed $1 trillion a couple a weeks ago), and at least 15 billion being put towards nuclear energy which only poisons our planet at ever increasing rates, which is something that could ultimatly be replaced with marijuana, and Jack Herer proves this in his book The Emperor Wears No Clothes... The truth is our lifestyle (the american lifestyle) has lost all touch with truth and our outlook on life is a complete misunderstanding, and too many people are distracted by their dead end jobs and shit like television and its counterparts that are robbing us and our children of our intellect and intuition, this ability to THINK FOR OURSELVES. Our most important members of society, our children, have been raised on false impressions and outright lies for at least the past 60 years. All these natural and unnatural disasters that are happening around the world are only small previews of what is coming. I mean has anyone here actually read the bible, or better yet a decoded bible... we are currently in revelations and whether people believe it right now or not 2012 is going to be a huge turning point for our civilization, whether it be for good or for bad, but the way things are heading right now we are either going to plunge into another depression like era that took place during 1930's in germany, except far worse; or some kind of outside non terrestrial force (yes aliens, or God from the Bible, or the gods that so many ancients civilizations worshipped and were in contact with, i.e. Mayans) will come down from the heavens and judge the people of earth. or shit maybe everyone around the world will just immediatly take off all their clothes and walk outside with no such thing as hatred, fear, racism, ignorance, segregation, greed, or war existing in our minds, we will all finally realize the equality, that everything living thing on earth is equal, and thus treat it that way ... the main point here is that something isnt right and sooner RATHER than later something is going to happen that will change our society forever, a realization that will make our current lifestyle obsolete, and this generation plays a huge role in the outcome. Whatever does happen it is important to keep in mind that no matter how bad it gets; judgement, equality, and goodness will inevitably overcome

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but this great spirit person has merely been trying to HELP a few people out by posting some really important information that EVERYONE should know about

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You mean like this "really important information"?

"Check out the similarities between the symbols of nazi germany and the great seal of the us."

What's up G.S., your mommy join the boards to protect her lil' angel?

no dude im not talking about this in particular. im refering to like the past 3 months or so of this non stop stuff he keeps posting. I dont care about all the details, we need to get past that. what matters is it really is happening and the sad thing is most people wont even realize it until it is too late

As much as it hurts me to say this it really is a lost cause, and right now we the people cant really do anything but sit back and watch it unfold hoping the Christ will make his second appearance and set shit straight again...

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As much as it hurts me to say this it really is a lost cause, and right now we the people cant really do anything but sit back and watch it unfold hoping the Christ will make his second appearance and set shit straight again...

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I really don't feel mythology is the answer to our questions.

well what better place is there to look? if you can see through the myth and look at the people during that time and what they did there is no myth involved, they were normal people like you or me who strived to know the truth. in due time everything taking place right now will be considered mythology, and for all we know Bush may be depicted as an anti-christ figure that decieved innocent people and almost destroyed the earth... Christ was no myth... http://www.cannabisculture.com/backi...11/christ.html

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Originally Posted by Marijuanderful

Christ was no myth...

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Or was Zeus, Odin, Ra, Budda, etc.........all just depends at what point of history your living in as to what the "God" of the day is.

actually jesus walked the earth and has never been considered a god just like the Buddha was never considered a god. anything living on this earth can not be deified, however the Vikingâ??s Odin, Hinduâ??s Brahma, Romanâ??s Jupiter, Egyptianâ??s Amen-Ra, Greekâ??s Zeus and Islamâ??s Allah can, just like our God the father almighty. however all these gods have one thing in common and that is they dont exist in the traditional sense. However they could be applied to planets and the sun, for example Jesus was considered the son of man (or the son of God, son of Earth) and all of his teachings and healings involved gods greates gift, cannabis... also many buddhist traditions, writings, and beliefs indicate that Siddhartha (the Buddha) used and ate nothing but hemp and its seeds for six years prior to announcing his truths and becoming the Buddha. So really all these different religions and beliefs have a lot in common, and if you can picture the earth or any other planetary body as a living organism (which they are) that is able to produce life suitable for that enviornment by the use of the sun, the gods that ancient civilizations worshipped could be the entities or the souls of these organisms...

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

My god how blind are you people?! Clearly it is no coincidence that there are eagles followed by religious icons on both of their seals, it almost makes me want to cry its so obvious. Remember that fascism and religion go hand in hand! I think you just have a problem with acceptance.

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I think sombody watched the show about the Free Masons on the history channel, and then went a little google wild.

http://www.greatseal.com/

http://www.freedomdomain.com/illumin.html

2 places for you guys to check out and decide if it's BS or the coming of a NWO ?

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Originally Posted by Marijuanderful

well what better place is there to look? if you can see through the myth and look at the people during that time and what they did there is no myth involved, they were normal people like you or me who strived to know the truth. in due time everything taking place right now will be considered mythology, and for all we know Bush may be depicted as an anti-christ figure that decieved innocent people and almost destroyed the earth... Christ was no myth... http://www.cannabisculture.com/backi...11/christ.html

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are you FUCKING kidding me? basing all your babbled bullshit on a baseless religion that only aims to suck money from its members? this shit is retarded. jesus christ was a great dude and all... but that is where it ends. jewish carpenter. crucified for being an asshole. the entire bible and revelations was written by a couple crazy motherfuckers back in the day. NONE of it is true. they keep changing the year and shit too... fucking religious imbeciles... you are entitled to your beliefs and shit... 6 million of my people were killed under people who believed differently, but dont go babbling baseless bullshit trying to impose it here.

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are you FUCKING kidding me? basing all your babbled bullshit on a baseless religion that only aims to suck money from its members? this shit is retarded. jesus christ was a great dude and all... but that is where it ends. jewish carpenter. crucified for being an asshole. the entire bible and revelations was written by a couple crazy motherfuckers back in the day. NONE of it is true. they keep changing the year and shit too... fucking religious imbeciles... you are entitled to your beliefs and shit... 6 million of my people were killed under people who believed differently, but dont go babbling baseless bullshit trying to impose it here.

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Well first of all youre right that was a bunch of stoned thoughts that add up to nothing but to say that the entire bible was written by a couple crazy motherfuckers back in the day and then say that NONE of it is true is pretty ignorant. anyways im just here for the arguement, regardless of how pointless it is and in this case only time can tell. i wasnt criticizing so no offense to you or anyone else.

You people are all free to believe what you want, but I see too many similarities between Bush's Amerika and Nazi Germany. It's what I believe and I will keep showing evidence and testifying that G.W. Bush is Mabus...the third and final antichrist of our time. As I stated before, your just not willing to accept this because you are too involved with your own lives, and that is perfectly acceptable. Remember, they thought Jesus was nuts too! It's not an easy task to do what I do. You know how many weirdo looks I get when I try to talk to people about this? I really do feel sometimes that I am by myself in this struggle. I know too much!

Apparently you guys are not understanding my message though. Now on to Jesus and the Bible. There is a "God" and a spiritual world. I know because I have experienced this. :D What you call "God" is the life process itself in the unlimited physical universes of reality. God is pure love and compassion, and so is everyone who ever existed! Love is the core of all. It is the only thing worth living for. For love is greather than faith!

Life here is the test...or schoolhouse as I would put it. Religions were made so it could help us understand some concept of God. It's the seen of the unseen! Just a visual to help us find the truth. Buddha, Jesus, John the Baptist understood this very much. Jesus knew that a literal interpretation of Judaism was not the way. From studying and meditation..and weed smoking!!...he realized the uncreated in the created. He recognized the Temple space. In this Temple space...when you see the Father..you are the Father! He also knew how to use his lower 3 "dark" chakras properly. Remember, Light and Dark are brothers! Jesus was a person just like you and me...but very very evolved. He had human needs. He was married to Mary Magdalene and had children. Read the added verses of Mark Ch 16:9-20 and its not surprising to see how they wrote that Jesus drove 7 demons from Mary Magdalene. They want to demonize the Sacred Feminine!

The problem is when people take religion to an extreme like the Christian fundementalists and the Muslims. Killing in the name of God is not what God is about. Even in the OT, God commands the killing of homosexuals and adulterers. The Bible was written by men, yet it is divine. The Bible, like all other religious texts is just a metaphor and not to be taken literally, but it has principles that everyone agrees with no matter what religion, such as loving your neighbor and giving to the poor. Blessed are the meek, for theirs is the Kingdom of God! Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called Sons of God!

However, I can debunk fundemental Christianity. Once you find one contradiction, fundemental Christianity falls because they believe the Bible is infalliable. Did you realize that the Gospel of Matthew and Luke were revised added copies from Mark? There was a Q source used for Mark too which now many are believing was actually the sayings gospel, the Gospel of Thomas which is made up of 114 sayings which a full Coptic translation was found in 1945. Thomas they say predated Mark! In Luke, it says 2 angels were at the tomb of Jesus, but in Mark which was earlier, just says that a man with a white rob was at the tomb. So which was it? 2 angels or a man? See how it gets distorted? But I understand the purpose of it!!!

The Pharisees, scribes and Sadducees of Jesus' time are the same as the Bible belt people, Baptists, and other religious extremists today that Jesus warned us about, for they honor God with their lips and not their hearts.

Be very careful of your leaders, especialy Bush. He is a wolf in sheeps clothing. He will use fundemental religion as his means of fascism. Fascism and religion go hand in hand!

Guys, this is not hard to understand, but you need to accept some things and let go of some things. Unless you become like little children, you will never enter into the Kingdom of God.

It really pisses me off when people make Jesus out to be some virgin super-conservative wrath of God type. Thats is so far from the truth...I can personally attest to that! hehe. :dance:

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

You people.........Guys, this is not hard to understand, but you need to accept some things and let go of some things. Unless you become like little children, you will never enter into the Kingdom of God.
It really pisses me off when people make Jesus out to be some virgin super-conservative wrath of God type. Thats is so far from the truth...I can personally attest to that! hehe. :dance:

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"Little children" are ignorant. This should not be the goal of intelligent, adult, rational, human beings.

What this phrase from the bible, "become like little children", really means is blind obedience to authority. When you throw away your reason, and submit your mind to superstitious belief systems, you become a slave.

There is nothing wrong with an adult being "child-like" in some ways - such as curiosity, ability to learn new things, joy in living, etc. Religion demands that you forfeit the freedom of your mind, and often your rights, as well.

Freedom-loving people are not enslaved by religion and other life-destroying ideas.


P.S. Addressing the reader(s) as "You people" is a bad way to start a posting, lol. ;)

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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat

"Little children" are ignorant. This should not be the goal of intelligent, adult, rational, human beings.

What this phrase from the bible, "become like little children", really means is blind obedience to authority. When you throw away your reason, and submit your mind to superstitious belief systems, you become a slave.

There is nothing wrong with an adult being "child-like" in some ways - such as curiosity, ability to learn new things, joy in living, etc. Religion demands that you forfeit the freedom of your mind, and often your rights, as well.

Freedom-loving people are not enslaved by religion and other life-destroying ideas.


P.S. Addressing the reader(s) as "You people" is a bad way to start a posting, lol. ;)

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You know, some of YOU PEOPLE are impossible to reach. Lol but with all due respect, I am not the one who believes that terrorists with boxcutters hijacked airplanes.

p.s. Children are beautiful because they are innocent in nature. No matter how much you hate, there is something about a child that you love.

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oh come on now...the seal of the usa has been around FAR longer than bush has even been walking the earth and the swastika has been around for millenia. even the navaho's and other sw tribes have used it for 1,000's of years.

many of you have grown up being aware of only gwb as our president. quit fretting about it...he only has 3 more years until he's out of our lives forever. we have had shitty presidents in the past and will again in the future unless more take part in the election process and quit making up excuses to avoid it.

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Except the small fact that the popular vote(people vote) means dick, and the electoral college actually decides who becomes president. The fact of the matter is that our votes are basically a poll that shows who the people would like in office, not an election of a president of our choice.

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

You know, some of YOU PEOPLE are impossible to reach. Lol but with all due respect, I am not the one who believes that terrorists with boxcutters hijacked airplanes...
p.s. Children are beautiful because they are innocent in nature. No matter how much you hate, there is something about a child that you love.

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Dogs are "beautiful", also - but I don't want their "innocence".

Nobody that saw what happened on those 9/11 planes is alive. Although there are no surviving eyewitnesss passengers or crew, the daily jihads, reported in other parts of the world, are not make-believe. The extremists are INTO this. There was a former bin laden bodyguard on TV tonight that WANTS his little boy, when he gets older, to die in a jihad attack. These people are sick.

Again, I don't "believe" anything about who, or what, was on those planes- I can only guess based on the available information, and my best guess is that the scumdogs that were named are guilty. Most people in the world agree with this conclusion.

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Again, I don't "believe" anything about who, or what, was on those planes- I can only guess based on the available information, and my best guess is that the scumdogs that were named are guilty. Most people in the world agree with this conclusion.

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Dude, I would consider you to be paranoid if YOU DIDN'T believe that 9/11 was authorized by the Bush administration...that is how much I believe in this. They are watching our activities here, and surprisingly my posts have gone up on yahoo.com. I feel honored. lol. Dude I have seen the paranormal myself and it is our home really. Lol I dont know how else to put it to you really. You need to see the unseen and sense it in your heart and mind. loving others is God, for the Kingdom of God is within you.

I had a dream when I was 14, and I met Jesus, Buddha, possibly my Higher Self but some radiant Being of Light. The feeling I recieved from this Being was just total love and joy, like a near death experience, and I know for a fact that I want to go back to that "place" when I die. Most people in their dreams really don't feel anything intense, but this is like I was made to recieve this and found out what God really is....just pure love and compassion I felt. Yes a "Higher Power" exists. It was grand! I then joined the Church and got baptized, but then I went away from the Church when I actually read up upon the history of the "Christian" Church and how it fucked us in the ass and geared more towards Universal New Age/Gnostic tendancies. Religion has its purpose, and it is a DARK aspect really because religion is made to control, but when used properly, is very very beautiful. but purpose to this magnitude is very inconceivable to many humans sorry to say. i wish we were all on the same vibration. god wrote the law in our hearts...not on a piece of paper.

Do you believe that there are ANY people, of the Moslem persuasion, that perform jihad? If so, then it is possible that it happened on 9/11.

I'm just trying to get a handle on how "paranoid" I am.:rasta:

I think that you place way too much importance on your opinion.

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no dude im not talking about this in particular. im refering to like the past 3 months or so of this non stop stuff he keeps posting. I dont care about all the details, we need to get past that. what matters is it really is happening and the sad thing is most people wont even realize it until it is too late

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You have spoken well friend and I thank you for you coming to my aid. Remember the German people never stopped Hitler. Hitler was very close to actually winning WW2 and the Gemans did not know they were killing the Jews. Remember the US put thousands of Japenese into camps. Why? I thought this is the land of the free? And don't give me any of that "oh but we had to" crap neither!!!!!

indeed this is happening. don't forget global warming too!!! Bush trying to ban homosexual marriage is a clear example of a fascist act. it was never an issue before really, especially since Slick Willy's time who was just as big an asshole as Bush. but now after 9/11, they can bring about the fascist dictatorship they always wanted. but for a purpose this happened. perhaps we didn't learn from the past and need to repeat this. history only repeats when you want it to. the uniforms the soldiers wore in Barbed Wire remind me of a cross between American and Nazi uniforms really.

wow no wonder I am getting a receding hairline...all the bad crap that goes on. weed and movies and love are what keep me going, but love most of all.

The Japanese that were interned were given reparations, for the most part, by the U.S. government.

It was probably a good idea, and likely prevented casualties in North America.

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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat

It was probably a good idea, and likely prevented casualties in North America.

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Fuck that! It was no good idea. Would you agree to have Arab people put in camps when we go to war with Iran? The majority of Americans and the world WOULDN'T!!

During WWII, the other Asian people were not bothered - hell, they SUPPORTED the U.S., and many were instrumental in our victory.

Radical Islamist Iranians in the U.S. should be suspects, at the very least (I'd kick them all out). MOst of the other people from Arab countries would probably not be a problem.

If bin laden was captured, by an Arab country, it would really change a lot of people's opinions. In the meantime, they're not turning anyones' heads around.

It's a disgrace that the man is still "out there".

Personally, I think that we should not be in the Middle East, or do business with them at all. They are among the least trustworthy business partners, and I'd sooner have the U.S. economy drop our business "arrangements" with the whole lot of them. If we did that, I guarantee that they'll find bin laden and come crawling back on their hands and knees to us.

If we drop our business, we won't have to drop bombs.

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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat

Radical Islamist Iranians in the U.S. should be suspects, at the very least (I'd kick them all out). MOst of the other people from Arab countries would probably not be a problem. Personally, I think that we should not be in the Middle East, or do business with them at all. They are among the least trustworthy business partners, and I'd sooner have the U.S. economy drop our business "arrangements" with the whole lot of them. If we did that, I guarantee that they'll find bin laden and come crawling back on their hands and knees to us.

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My one teacher from last semester is from Iran. Should we deport her? She gave me an A- which is good in Islamic class. i agree we should not be in the middle east because they do not like our MATERIALISTIC culture and america is trying to impose this on them. We should def go more agrarian and more spiritual.

Here's a little something for the religiously-inclined...

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/

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My one teacher from last semester is from Iran. Should we deport her? She gave me an A- which is good in Islamic class. i agree we should not be in the middle east because they do not like our MATERIALISTIC culture and america is trying to impose this on them. We should def go more agrarian and more spiritual.

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Wrong.

I said "Radical Islamic", and by that I mean "militant" - in other words, dangerous. If she is, then yes, I'd deport her. I did not mean "ALL" Iranians should be kicked out - just the ones that support, or engage in, terrorism.

We should be Materialists, and reject superstition and religion. This in turn will allow us to arrive at workable, logical policies devoid of religious madness -most notably the insanity of monotheistic faiths like Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. The latter is currently the most dangerous, but many believers in the other two idiotic belief systems are not much better at times. At the very least, many are somewhat moronic when it comes to logic and reason - thanks to religious conditioning.

Hey great spirit i dont know if youve ever looked into dimethltryptamine (DMT) and the pineal gland, (im assuming you already know what im talking about though and have probably have alot of knowledge of this if youre like me), but in case you havent, you might find this book very interesting, its called "DMT : The Spirit Molecule" by Dr. Rick Strassman. The book is pretty long but chock full of good information. Anyways if you dont have any clue what dmt is or dont know much about the pineal gland i know for a fact you would find it interesting... Also check out the late Terrence Mckenna, again you might know who this guy is but just in case you dont definately look into him, here is a link... http://users.lycaeum.org/~sputnik/mckenna/ - He might seem a little crazy at first (dont we all) but read some of his lectures and public speakings and youll see how brilliant he was! enjoy.

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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat

We should be Materialists, and reject superstition and religion.

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At the expense of Mother Nature? You do realize that our CURRENT situation is destroying the Earth with all of the greenhouse gases being released. This can be easily replaced by switching to hemp fuel. The government knows this with 110% accuracy, yet they do nothing about it. Why is that??

Strange too that after hemp was officially banned in 1937, the US created the Hemp for the War campaign during WW2. So tell me, why would they make it illegal then suddenly go back to it....hmm??? Because they wanted to keep the chemical and logging industries in business because hemp could have replaced all of that!! The Great Marijuana Conspiracy is true!!!

I'm sorry, but you can't refute hemp as the greatest fuel in existence for us.

Money talks sucka!!

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Hey great spirit i dont know if youve ever looked into dimethltryptamine (DMT) and the pineal gland, (im assuming you already know what im talking about though and have probably have alot of knowledge of this if youre like me), but in case you havent, you might find this book very interesting, its called "DMT : The Spirit Molecule" by Dr. Rick Strassman. The book is pretty long but chock full of good information. Anyways if you dont have any clue what dmt is or dont know much about the pineal gland i know for a fact you would find it interesting... Also check out the late Terrence Mckenna, again you might know who this guy is but just in case you dont definately look into him, here is a link... http://users.lycaeum.org/~sputnik/mckenna/ - He might seem a little crazy at first (dont we all) but read some of his lectures and public speakings and youll see how brilliant he was! enjoy.

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Oh yea I'm familiar with the pineal gland and its connection w/our chakras. I will look into this website sometime. Although weed is my preferred meditative and communicative tool.

yea i prefer weed too ive never even seen dmt before but i just think that stuff is interesting to read about