MY NEW SCROG CHECK IT OUT

I finally made a screen for my scrog. This is where i am going to need a lot of advice i ahve never done this before but i kinda think i have a good idea. FEEDBACK PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ tahnkz

looking good bro , its going to get busy in there , lol i would bring the screen down a bit so the plants bend under it and have the plants groweing in a clockwork directoin having the side shoots going in towards the middle, that is the point of scrog so you get better yeilds from buttom bud sites, this is just my opinion one of the pros will probibaly give you better info but i will defenetly be following this grow keep it up , the postman.

Thanks PMD, within the next couple of days im goin to get some 8" plastic pots so thats probably going to boost them up a couple inches ......right??? so do i bend them under or on top of the screen???? do u think i am going to getr a good yeild my light is only 125w comp floro???? but i think im just gunna make a small hps system because i want good bud.

FLOWER NOW

It looks like most of your plants are ready to be 12/12 ed..

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yah but should i do it with hps or will cpmpact floro be ok

When do you plan on getting HPS?

Do you know if your space can take the heat the HPS will produce?

125W wont dissapoint in yield if you know what to expect with CFL. An HPS of course, will be better, pricier, and hotter.

You can always flower now and add the HPS later.

Nice...I gotta try a scrog the next time.

I like it!!!

i was probably gunna get the HPS tomorrow but at the same time i already cant control the DIRTY SOUTH heat during the day. So i think i will just wait till my next grow and get a bad ass one. OMG i just went and checked my plants and it is like 93 degrees in there. I cant have this happening especially if im bout to start flowering. What can i do to keep the temp okay in there? Also i just switched it to 12/12 to begin flowering.They have been vegging for 44 days. Help plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
thankz everyone
nazty
PS other pic is my first time clones they are doin pretty good ima throw them in the big box when the get a lil bigger

Hi Hungry.. they still look GOOD..

The secret to your success is gonna be your watering..
Make sure that when you water... you do a thorough watering.. None of this one cup here..one cup there shit..

Water each plant with a gallon or more if you can...

and then let them dry out.. and then water again thoroughly..

You ask why...

well.. you are using very small pots and the roots will need to utilize all of the room in those tiny pots.. With this PROPER watering technique, the plants roots can utilize all the soil... as opposed to the roots going down to the bottom of the pot and getting root bound.. which is what happens when you only water them a little bit....

Make sure you PH your water as well....

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hope this helps..

Ive never scrogged, but from what I've read, and seen, you need to get a screen with smaller holes, 1" seems to be the max you want ... :smokin:

hahaha yes i have some very good news everyone. Within the past couple of days my babies were lookin terrible they were wilting and the temp in my box was like 95 ALL DAY. But this morning i pulled off something i didnt think i could. The 4" exhaust fan just wasnt cutting it so this morning while the whole family and a couple of friends were asleep i cut the hole bigger and put a 6" 250cfm fan in for exhaust and put the 4" 80cfm at the bottom for intake i also put the flexi hose that goes to the 4" where it gets fresh outside air. I watered hardcore and i will check them in the afternoon to see if they are doing as good as i think they will. If it is able to keep the temps down good i am thinking about puttin a hps in there. But there are two things i need to know.
1. What wattage do u guys think for a 4'x2'x2' box?
2. How much is the temp gunna raise if i put that hps in there.
OH but also...i cant afford a CO2 system right now but i was wondering if i could do a co2 injection with my paintball tank....this would be pretty fuckin cool....thanks all i love youi all. NASTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

I would say for that size of a box, if you can find it. I would try and get a 150w or if you have to a 250. Either way you go though, hps works heaps better than cfl. But we all love cfl's for their own traits. Just my .02

MEME

Sorry for the double post, but Nasty, you need to fill that screen out more before you go into flower. Lay that bog plant down onto it's side if you can, train your plants under the screen until about 75-80% of the screen is filled. Btw, what size holes are you working with? They look rather big, from past reading I understand that you shouldn't have a hole any bigger than 2" and no smaller than 1.5"

MEME

Meme,

I see you point about letting the screen fill out...

But that is going to take some serious training (training the plants). If he waits anylonger to flower without daily tying and training, he is gonna run outta room.. Those plants are already almost to big for that space..


Hungry MEME's idea about turning someof those plants on their sides is a great one.. this will give you more "main" colas..

Congrats on the NEw exhaust system

I wouldnt mind that grow room in my house lol... looks nice

yah i think ima go back to vegging them because most arent even touching screen yet. But i went in there and checked the temp and it was still around 90 WHAT DO I DO HELPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But GK the water was what help them from wilting....so thanks on that part but the temp is not even budging im going to try to find a cool place to put the intake hose.......any suggestions??? thanks guys .....much love

Hungry...
Yikes.. carefu about switching back to veg...

I would not do that...
Finish this harvest...
Learn from it...

You have been flowering for 10 days now.. right?

90 degrees is to hot...?
does not make sense... the exhaust you have should be enough....
WHen you put your hand on the canopy.. does it feel to hot?
Where is your thermometer.?

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I had only been flowering for a couple of days i think it will be ok to switch back....right??ohhhhhh i think that it is reading so high because it is halfway up the fuckin box...here's and older pic to show. I have another one....where should i place it. I was thinking probably like on top of the screen or something. Wow im really high..:stoned: ..hahaha...uhhh.....I moved the intake hose to a different spot...but i dont think it is gunna matter. GK i just wanted to add in in case you didnt know because this is a huge factor for the heat. Dirty south heat in an attic. I was even thinking if all else fails I was either gunna cut a hole in one of the huge ac hoses and connect mine to it...or...cut a bathroom exhaust fan hose in half or put a t-elbow on it and get air coming from downstairs. OMFG this shit gets so frustrating sometimes:confused: , but im not gunna let the heat bring me down. Because i know in the end my ladies will be gorgeous.:thumbsup:. But I would like to say thanks once again to everyone who helps me out , you guys are the backbone of my success. Much love .....yah NiGgA NaZtY

hahaha oh yeah....here:stoned:

damnit someone me out plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:ras ta:

Um I so heat is a problem and exhausting does nothing?

The air coming in would be to warm I am guessing regardless of the light.

I would say seal the exhaust and put in a a/c unit with a thermostat.

Then just make CO2 with yeast and sugar.

how much is a small a/c unit???i dont think my fans are as much cfm as they say they are do u htink i should just get a small centrifugal blower fan....i saw one at my local hydro store for only 40 bucks and the larger one was 80. how do i do the sugar and yeast method

ok well today i transplanted all the large plants in to 8 8" large plastic pots i killed off the three little guys in cups because i dont have time for them to catch up and i dont have any more space i am going to veg for another week or soso i can lengthen all of the branches and train them to the screen. thanks guys ...much love.....nasty

P.S. I am putting new pics up tomorrow of the plants and some Northern Lights that i picked up....yummmmmm

as image reaper said, to get the high yeilds scroggers boast you must have smaller screen. i used to use 1" screen when i had a grow. also, i wouldn't use ac for cooling just get a better exhaust fan ( less energy used). with a big enough fan you should be able to keep the temp of the grow at the same temp as the air being drawn in by the intakes. you could look at my old thread titled "lovely ladies" in the closet growing forum if you wanna see alot of scog pics from the start of flower right through to the end. there is also alot of good info there. good luck!

it is killing me not to have a grow currently!!!

the scrog king returns, damn you have to get growing again justaseed your scrogs are the best ive evr seen, the postman.

i would love to start up the grow again but i have 2 children now and if i ever went to jail for growing what would happen to them? i got pulled over about 2 months ago and got arrested for 1/2 gram. that in and of itself is no big deal($400 fine) but now i have probation and if i get caught for anything at all it's and automatic 14days in jail but more likely i'd have to finish out the probation in jail. i have been to prison before i had kids and that was bad enough. now that i have children it's not only me that suffers if i go back. there is light at the end of the tunnel however. the state i live in just passed a med law. i have a history of stomach problems and am in the process of trying to convince my doc to right me a script so i can bring it to the state and get a med card. keep i finger crossed for me. also if anyone knows of a "medical marijuana friendly" doc in new england let me know. i have a legit diagnosis that can warrant cannabis use.

man justaseed you keep plugging away bro and keep around here as your knowledge on the scrog method is up there with the best and i will pray to the cannabis gods that your problem gets solved, the postman.and big plus to you for thinking of your kids.

nice setup HungryMcNasty i might one day try a scrog keep up the good work m8 :D

Sorry i haven't been back in awhile. as for your thermo, I would say put it at the tops of your plants, that way you will know how hot the tops get. Keep a close eye on your soil so that it doesn't dry out on you. As for the heat, the smallest ac unit I found was 4500btu's and that was about $150. So I would suggest just getting a small inline duct fan or something of that nature. I have had the same prob with temps but I'm hoping the fan is my solution. And I hope that you can find your solution as well... If you can, plug your exhaust(as long as it is unscented air, meaning it has already passed through a filter to rid of the smell) to your bath exhaust, that way it will not linger in your attic but disperse into mother natures air. I'm not sure if it got answered or not but to make Co2 take your baking soda and vinegar I do believe(??0 and just mix it into a bowl... a deep bowl! From what i remember it does expand so you need a high lined container to put it in...

Good luck and we are here to help!
Justaseed, I suggest getting your med papers. I'm working on getting mine before my chyro fixes my back...they are a definate life saver!

MEME

Thanks all yall are the best. Justaseed I am very greatful for your help because you were there in the beginning for me also...and yes you are in fact the SCRoG KING. I think i will try to make my screen holes smaller. Justaseed i respect you so much...you are a wonderful Man to take care of your family like that I love you. Postman and MEME thanks also you guys have lots of bad ass info. Postman how did you get those seeds from mobay. I need some good seeds but i am scared of buyin thru companies. But if it is nothing to be afraid of i hope you guys can enlighten me a little cuz i really want to buy some bad ass strains. Alright for the info........I transplanted yesterday into 8" pots the seem to be growing really good they grew a lot overnight ....haha i think it was the extra amount of superthrive i used ....that shit does wonders......but yeah they seem to be doin really good. Can anyone tell what strain they are??? indica or sativa or hybrid?????oh yyeah here is also some Northern Lights i got .....this shit had me hallucinating. sorry its such a small amount hahaha i smoked like the whole 1/4 way too quick.Much love guys

hahaha here:stoned:

i was looking at your pics and noticed something about thermometer placement. if the light shines directly on it you will have false high readings. i made a little cardboard "hood" for mine and it worked fine. the thermometer will absorb the heat from the light if it shines directly on it. someone can correct me hear if i'm wrong but i believe this is called transfer heat and plants can tolerate that alot better than a high ambient temp. it's like when you stand out in the hot sun at noon on july 4th and your skin feels like it's alot hotter than the air temp. i hope i didn't take a real simple thing and confuse everyone with my poor explanation.

Actually justaseed, i was going to make a comment on the same thing. I was just looking at the new set of pics and that looks as if you have your thermo on the top of the screen with no shade... try and put it at the same level but with it shaded... it will give you a better temp reading.
Aside from some yellowing leaves on the bottom branches, your plants looks really healthy. Keep it up!
MEME

Alright guys i sure will. I was thinking that same thing but i didnt want to just put it at (top of pot level). That "Hood" idea is one of the best i have ever heard . thanks once again guys. much love ....nazty...oh yeah what about strain and sativa/indica/hybrid info..Peace and Pot

From what i can tell, all of your plants are mostly indica aside from the one in the bottom left hand of the picture....

(Your pic here...) They all have fairly fat leaves except that one. So I believe it is the only sativa dominant plant you have...

I hope that I'm right...
MEME

Oh i think that one looks like that because i topped it early,its not as big as the other ones, and i didnt get the whole plant in the pic. But i they are all from the same bag of bud. Can you tell what the strain is yet or do you have to wait for it to flower. Thanks .................nasty

The unfortunate thing that i found with bagseed is....... you never really know what strain it really is. there will always be a strain that looks like it but to be even more than 80% sure, it's a little tough. The best name you could say is wicked bagseed(or any other name before bagseed) In case they do get cloned(??) and then passed on to someone else, you don't want to throw a name on it and then have it be nothing even close. If you can remember what bag it came out of and what dealer/friend you got it from.. try and backtrack it if you want exact strain. But even then it is hard to trace the plants.

MEME

About the temps - I dont know if youve still got high temps, but try using the smaller fan to SUCK air out of the closet, that way the hotter air will be be sucked OUT and cooler air will be sucked IN. Just a theory, no idea if it will work but it will provide better ventilation. A problem that you might have with this is that as the hotter air is being sucked out (into your room, or outside depending how you set it up) is that your room will smell of MJ even more.
I think youd need to put the fan thats sucking air IN at the bottom, and the fan sucking air OUT at the top. Its one way or the other!

thnx MEME i understand how that works now. well then could i name it my own strain if it turns out to be good "GoodieTwoShoes" aka "G2S". Also if so can i take clones after i harvest and put plants back on veg.

Ok,Swizzy, should i put the 250 cfm at bottom, and the 80 at top?? I already have this(intake bottom,exhaust top). so should i just switch places also i am going to be buying a 150 cfm centrifugal blower and should i put that on exhaust or intake????

thanks guys .........much love.........NaStY