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Ive been saving up some scratch to buy of grow set up. Are the turnkey systems in hightimes worth the money and will i be able to achieve good results. THe machine im thinking about scooping is the http://www.homegrown-hydroponics.com/ecgrboxbecug.html
its a six plant system. with this set up what type of yields should i expect. let me know cause i really dont wanna spend the 1000$ on a machine that wont produce me enough smokes to chill on .
RIP OG we will miss you
I know somebody out there has know someone or seen pictures of someone with a catalog bought machine but i can never find any pics. This one with the link is the only one really in my price range. Should I expect atleast say 6 ounces per grow session in this box. or more or less. Please someone let me know your experience i need to learn before i burn the cash
I think you should build your own.
alright theres one vote come on i need more opinions this is a big decision. Im not very hand with tools is my problem and im lazy so i wanted something that would be simple. My real concern is if the econo grow machine will have enought space to produce say and ounce or two or buds per plants so say maybee 10 -12 ounces hoopefully. Could this be done easily in the machine. I might try and build my own if you guys think this thing is a rip off. i got an indoor mix of emery seeds at a buddys im ready to start experimenting with. Some one help me because i am bored stoned and ready to get growing.
That system looks like a ripoff for the $1000 you say it costs. You could build it for $500 or less, no problem. Probably far less. Look around on this board to learn how to build hydro setups and stealth grow cabs.
As for how much to expect off the grow, don't expect anything off the first one or two grows. Chances are you'll get a little, but there's also a reasonable chance that you'll mess it up while learning how to grow the plants. I figure, the lower your expectations, the less chance you have of being disappointed. :D
Im looking for an easy turnkey system that is affordable that i know for sure has no oder. Can anyone suggest one that i could purchase. I know they are pricey but if i got a decent yeilds i would save cash from buying from so many duck people around here charging on the high and being sketchy. Thanks for the help so far also any suggestions are always greatly appreciated.
From what I remember reading on overgrow, most people trashed alot of those turnkey systems for one reason or another. I think it was the bc bloom box ESPECIALLY. From what I gather, these "turn key systems" have flaws from wiring to light leaks. I dont know though because I didnt buy one, I built my own. Lets just say i never ran across anyone posting anything positive in regards to them.
But honestly man, if your gonna spend $1000, do a month or two research before you do anything man... For $1000... all im sayin is I could build one HELL of a cab! Definatly better than anything you can buy lol. Completely customized too and exactly how I want it.
I guess as one final thought, dont think just cuz its a "turn key" system its gonna be sit back and relax throw a couple seeds in there and in 3 mos you've got some ganja. Your gonna fuck up. Especially if your growing in a DWC hydro setup your first time. Not only do you need to learn the plant... you need to learn water changes every two weeks... ph, ec, ppm, correct ratios of nutes, etc. And honestly, the plant itself gets bigger than I think you expect. Theres no way in hell you'll get 6 plants in that cabinet w/ that setup unless they're clones in a SoG forced to flower early.
yeah thanks for the reply im going with this now. i still need to figure out what else i really need. http://www.hydroasis.com/Merchant2/m...ory_Code=HyHut
Flourescent lights aren't gonna give you very good yield. build build build!
Get a Mill's Pride C13 Cabinet from Home Depot and stick a 400W or 250W light in there. It costs $99. Drill 4 2" holes in the bottom for ventilation and one 4" hole in the top for exhaust. Also, drill one 3" hole in the bottom to run your wires. Take 2 black 2" 90-degree pvc plumbing connectors for each hole, and make a light trap. Attach these underneath the cabinet to the holes.
Stick a cheet of 3/8" or 1/2" plywood on the back for support, and hang your light and fan.
You can also get a C22 for more room.
Mill's Pride may have discontinued making the C13 and C22, but you should be able to find something. Some great places to look for cabinets which you can convert are:
-Home Depot
-Lowe's
-Wal-Mart
-Target
-Ikea (really! I've seen several cabinets from Ikea that have been converted).
-Crate and Barrel, possibly
-Any discount furniture store, really
Good luck!
ive grown with soil, but i have 1300.00 to spend and am going to just get one of these turnkeys, ive looked into it, talked to the tech supports, learned alot and am just gonna buy one so ill let ya know how it goes with a post in this once i start it, and you can see. i know there spendy, but hey i want something i can turn on and grow, i have knowledge of growing, and know theres alot of extra baggage with keeping up the crop but i just want to do hydrop and be simple about it as possible. im going with a 8 plant hydro system, with co2 and a 2 200watt hps . i am going with 8 plants of fermized seeds (4 nycd and 4 cage) from the hemp depot. so wish me luck, im hoping to get 6 ounces per plant of nice hydro nycdc!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by BongHitBoy420
you are right, alot of people dont realzie hydro growing requires alot of work......but ya these kits are made for the SoG growing, they say if you do not want to grow like that they reccomend to gently bend the plants to grow a more horrizantal to make the plant bush more instead of grow to an extreme height, but they do offer bigger kits.
i know alot of tradional growers hate on this product and ones like it, but bascially its great for the newbie grower with money, isnt that hard to check ph, change waters, watch the palnt and add nutrients, as the nutrients are also included as well as complete tech support. also pretty large yeilds
Whatever your decision, good luck!
Please post a log of your grow with the box. We'd all be very interested to see the results.
Whatever you do - don't buy from Sunlight Sheds - they offer confusing assembly and growing instructions and do not make customer service a priority! They will sell it to you and then you are on your own!
They piss-off alot of folks!
smoken dope, let me know how that goes because i was in the same position as you are, and are very interested in seeing how the grow goes
I was pretty skeptical as well. I didn't hear good things about the BC Northernlights units or the Quickgrow. I was ready to build my own. But a friend of mine surprised the hell out of me when he bought their Medium grow chamber. The build quality is super solid, and the specs on the unit are kick ass. So, I thought what the hell. I called in at like 3 am and spoke to a sales rep. He answered all my questions, and was no bullshit. I called back the next day and placed an order for their Mini grow box. To my surprise it was built by the following day, and shipped out the same day they received my payment! Less than a week from build to delivery, and I even got to customize my box w/ specific lights and grow sites. They even included free General Hydroponics nutrients! Overall their customer service is kick ass, and their units are solid! I know it would be cheaper to build on my own, but the final product wouldn't be half as good. Needless to say, 3 1/2 weeks and my ladies are luving it!!
Anyone want to start a grow thread w/ one of these units?
i also would like to kno if anybody has grown with these.
I have purchased a few units from Homegrown Hydroponics. They have good products and customer support.
I am a newbie that is on his first run with a system I built myself. I just did a little research. I did buy the better items because I had planned on buying a sunlight shed, but feedback was bad. I could have done it cheaper but I was ready to start ASAP so I just bought what I needed.
I bought a cabinet for 99$ at HD
vent fans and ducting HD
400W light setup with bulbs (2 bulbs MH/HPS)
Water farm kit (comes with a lot of what you would need)
Air pump and Air stones - Petco
Dehumidifer -Sears
osc. Fan -HD
temp\humd gauges
A\C unit (cabinets get hot) 99$ HD
PH\EC\Temp meter for res (these get pricy, but make easy)
Nutes and PH control(just read label and slowing increase, keep plant happy, dont overdo)
Mylar
CO2 (I have a 40lb bottle on relay) Bottle was free becuase I had a few around, CO2 regulator kit is $150, filling bottle is ~$30
Carbon filter
Clay balls
Power strip or timer tree
My system is working really well. I have a short plant, though I think it is the strain. I have a 48"x18" that is 72" tall. Currently my main plant (the only one I have hope in) is 11" tallx 18" wide one way and 26" wide the other. I have a second small plant that is turning around, but with the main plant I already have 60% screen coverage. I just started flowering and I have not had a yield yet, but it sure has been pretty easy getting to this point. I had no instructions, just read a few books and bought some parts.
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The pics of the cabinet showing a\c and filter are 12 days apart. What is cut off in the pic is my venting, which I have two cheap 8" fans and in the bottom behind the mylar are two vents for fresh air
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IMHO for what it's worth...
Those things are built for the shady purpose of putting them in someone else's house, locking them so that the 'host' can't access the plants, and walking away... and letting the 'host' take the fall for you if there's a bust.
If you are growing as a legit PU or Med user, you're best off to build something yourself, or convert a closet or spare room.
Is the BloomBox a GREAT product and well built? Yup. Does it do what it is built for? Hells yeah. But consider what it is built for- THAT'S what the big price tag is all about.
Just my two cents on the matter...
No way?!?!?!?!?!? They're to grow "fresh organic herbs." Add says so!!! ;):D;) I betcha if you emailed them and asked them yourself thats what they'd tell you :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
... because we all need lock & key high tech hydroponic systems w/ carbon scrubbers and lcd enviromental controls w/ co2 and scrog screens to grow out tomatoes or carrots. :thumbsup:
damm thats a hot garden U have there. nice work.
Look guys I'm not going to blow smoke and pretend to be someone I'm not here. I work for BCNL. That said I think a lot of you are being really harsh and unfair in passing judgment on our products.
First off the prices we charge reflect the products we sell. We are the only company on the market that actually builds grow specific cabinets. Unlike the all the cheap knock offs we actually manufacture these out of aluminum. Aluminum will never rust and is easy to clean. Everyone else is taking a tool shed or filling cabinet and shoving a light in it. Our cabinets meet CSA standards and are 100% safe to operate. I know that you all have the best intentions when you suggest people DIY these things, but it can be very dangerous. Do some research and you'll see how many fires are caused by amateur growers using shady wiring for their lights. Also we offer full customer support 16 hours a day 7 days a week. We are here to address any issue our customers have with the box or their plants.
In short we offer support, safety, and security.
I just ordered a bloombox from these people and I should be getting it this week. I researched all the units I could, and found this to fit all my needs. I made several calls to them and they had all the answers I needed. They are great to deal with, and I am sure they will be there to help on the phone if I need it.
I bought a system off ebay called "hygro" or something. Was a big mistake. I basically paid $450+ for a cabinet with a flourex light and an exhaust fan. The box came with literally no light proofing, no carbon filter, no intake holes/fans. Anyway, I have since modified it, but the moral of the story is - dont get taken.
Oooh ouch man. I've seen a couple of those knockoff style cabs and know what you're talking about. Glad you made it work out though. If it's not lightproof, it isn't a cannabis grow enclosure, end of story. You should leave negative feedback for the vendor if he was even hinting that it was for growing herb, for false advertising.
For all the price tag, the BloomBox and their other stuff is very well built and if you get a pre-fab at all, that's the one.
I have a funny suggestion for the BloomBox or Producer.
Take it to an auto body shop and have it sprayed red.
Slap some Snap-On decals and redneck stickers on it.
Stuff it in the corner of your workshop under a pile of greasy sweatshirts and empty Budweisers.
Dent it up a little.
Get some greasy fingerprints on the handles.
Looks EXACTLY like a big tool-chest.
Your buddies will think you sold your soul to the Snap-On guy but that gives even more reason that the thing is always LOCKED lol.
yeah the title was "hydroponic stealth grow cabinet". "Hydroponic" apparently means an autowatering system. And "stealth" apparently means bright light shining out everywhere.