Britain is 'likely base for son of Star Wars'

Britain is 'likely base for son of Star Wars'

Britain has been named as a prime candidate to host missiles for America's controversial "son of Star Wars" defence system, a senior US general has revealed.

The disclosure risked infuriating Left-wing Labour MPs and prompting a fresh examination of transatlantic links and the relationship between Tony Blair and President George W Bush.

Lt Gen Trey Obering, head of the US Missile Defence Agency, said Britain was one of three candidates to be the European host of interceptors designed to shoot down incoming ballistic missiles.

British officials were startled by the disclosure, insisting that, as far as they were concerned, nothing had changed since Geoff Hoon, then the defence secretary, told parliament in 2004 that a decision to base interceptors in Britain would be "open to scrutiny and debate in the normal way".

"No one asked us the question [whether Britain was now ready to be a formal candidate]," a British Embassy spokesman said.

Previously, it was privately acknowledged that Britain is a strong candidate but it has never been formally identified as being in the running.

The revelation came in a PowerPoint presentation to a military conference earlier this week when Lt Gen Obering identified Britain, Poland and the Czech Republic as the three candidates, Britain seeming to have replaced Hungary on the final shortlist.

The Pentagon and the Ministry of Defence denied there had been any formal discussions over a missile defence site in the UK.

"There has been no planning, no approach no request and no invitation," a Pentagon spokesman said.

"America has not yet decided to place interceptors in Europe, has not yet asked for further British participation and the government has not yet decided whether or not to pursue missile defence for the UK," an MoD spokesman said.

Britain already plays a key part in American plans for a global defensive shield through the radar station at Fylingdales on the North York moors.

The planned missile defence shield, intended to protect America and its allies, has been dubbed "son of Star Wars", in a reference to the nickname for the Reagan-era defence system.

The Bush administration is now heading for a decision on where to put its third base of interceptors. The other two are in Alaska and California.

Sources close to Lt Gen Obering played down the impact of the disclosure saying Britain had two just brief mentions in his presentation.

He told the 4th Annual US Missile Defence Conference on Monday that the system which is to integrate land sea and air-based defences is making swift progress.

"It's a very daunting challenge but one that I think the men and women of the Missile Defence Agency, the army, navy and air force are pulling together and are now achieving," he said.

"A lot of people wonder if this is going to work and is it worth the investment," he added. "The testing we've conducted shows the technology is valid and viable."

He cited Iran and North Korea as potential threats but added that America and its allies must be ready to confront terrorist networks and future rogue states.

"Pakistan, one of our key allies today, tomorrow could have a fundamentalist Islamic government controlling their nuclear-tipped missiles," he said.

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well, yippie ki-yay! :rolleyes:

Amerika and its fucken missiles. How about spending all that money on schools and health care instead of wars. Oh wait! Amerika went fascist, so they kind of have to! Wait for the attack on Iran soon. It will happen.

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Amerika and its fucken missiles. How about spending all that money on schools and health care instead of wars. Oh wait! Amerika went fascist, so they kind of have to! Wait for the attack on Iran soon. It will happen.

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So what's wrong with a "defense" system. These "missiles" aren't for an offensive attack.

you assume they're not... i think the main problem is that the people who rule us.. they lie to start wars. so they just can't be trusted when it comes to subjects like world peace... when was the last time you heard them discuss world peace, without saying things like, "i just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace."?

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So what's wrong with a "defense" system. These "missiles" aren't for an offensive attack.

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You've been had by George W. Bush! It doesn't take a lot to see he's a fascist lying sack of shit. How many more people have to die because of him??!!

And War is Peace-- Freedom is Slavery

Qui desiderat pacem, preparet bellum.
"Who desires peace should prepare for war.":thumbsup:
Vegetius De Rei Militari III

"To be prepared for War is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace.":thumbsup:
President George Washington
first annual address to Congress, January 8, 1790

"Depend upon it,
that the lovers of freedom will be free.":thumbsup:
Edmund Burke

"If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known, that we are at all times ready for War.":thumbsup:
President George Washington
fifth annual address to Congress, December 13, 1793

"Live free or die.":thumbsup:
official motto of the State of New Hampshire

In pace, ut sapiens, aptarit idonea bello.
"In peace, as a wise man, he should make suitable preparation for war.":thumbsup:
Horace

But when you lie to every1 and their mammas then its a problem-- heres an issue about our lordBush that every1 missed. so if our president lied about the 911 attacks its alright, but dont lie about a blowjob while being a democrat...is that how it goes.

The dog that did not bark
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/9-...etservice.html
With a supposedly unknown number of passenger jets in the air, crashing into buildings, with the President's presence at Booker announced in the media three days in advance, and with an airport just 4 miles away, how did the United States Secret Service KNOW that President Bush was safe where he sat reading about goats? How did the United States Secret Service KNOW that President Bush did not need to be thrown into his armored limo and driven off? How did the United States Secret Service KNOW that President Bush wasn't making targets of all those children and teachers by remaining in that room? How did the United States Secret Service KNOW that President Bush was not a target?
They knew in advance what the targets were.

Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a
theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those
who are cold and are not clothed. This world in
arms is not spending money alone. It is spending
the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its
scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not
a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the
clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross
of iron.
- Dwight Eisenhower

When the tyrant has disposed of foreign enemies by conquest or treaty,
and there is nothing more to fear from them, then he is always stirring up
some war or other, in order that the people may require a leader.
- Plato

You can no more win a war than you can win an
earthquake.
- Jeannette Rankin

WAR! - Huuuh - What is it good for? Absolutely
nothing.
- Edwin Starr

Give me the money that has been spent in war and I will clothe every man, woman, and child in an attire of which kings and queens will be proud. I will build a schoolhouse in every valley over the whole earth. I will crown every hillside with a place of worship consecrated to peace. ~Charles Sumner

It'll be a great day when education gets all the money it wants and the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy bombers

Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind. ~John F. Kennedy, 1961

A great war leaves the country with three armies - an army of cripples, an army of mourners, and an army of thieves. ~German Proverb

The purpose of all war is peace.
- Saint Augustine, 354-430
"War is the continuation of policy(politics) by other means.":thumbsup:
- Karl von Clausewitz

"It is war that shapes peace, and armament that shapes war." :thumbsup:
- Thomas Fuller

"Si vis pacem, para bellum"
("If you want peace, prepare for war!"):thumbsup:
- Flavius Vegetius Renatus (ca 390 AD),

One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. :thumbsup:
Sir Winston Churchill

â??The United States is like giant boiler. Once the fire is lighted under it, there is no limit to the power it can generate.â?�:thumbsup:
Sir Winston Churchill

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But when you lie to every1 and their mammas then its a problem-- heres an issue about our lordBush that every1 missed. so if our president lied about the 911 attacks its alright, but dont lie about a blowjob while being a democrat...is that how it goes.

The dog that did not bark
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/9-...etservice.html
With a supposedly unknown number of passenger jets in the air, crashing into buildings, with the President's presence at Booker announced in the media three days in advance, and with an airport just 4 miles away, how did the United States Secret Service KNOW that President Bush was safe where he sat reading about goats? How did the United States Secret Service KNOW that President Bush did not need to be thrown into his armored limo and driven off? How did the United States Secret Service KNOW that President Bush wasn't making targets of all those children and teachers by remaining in that room? How did the United States Secret Service KNOW that President Bush was not a target?
They knew in advance what the targets were.

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Assumptions made based on moves taken or not?

Telling the future by looking at the past assumes that conditions remain constant. This is like driving a car by looking in the rearview mirror."
Herb Brody

"Education is a kind of continuing dialogue, and a dialogue assumes ... different points of view." :thumbsup:
Robert Maynard Hutchins

Albert Camus:
[I]n such a world of conflict, a world of victims and executioners, it is the job of thinking people, not to be on the side of the executioners.

Benjamin Franklin:
There never was a good war or a bad peace.

Blaise Pascal:
Can anything be stupider than that a man has the right to kill me because he lives on the other side of a river and his ruler has a quarrel with mine, though I have not quarrelled with him

Croesus:
In peace the sons bury their fathers, but in war the fathers bury their sons.

That begs the question Who would Jesus nuke?

So george orwell was right---War is Peace- Freedom is Slavery -Ignorance is Strength

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Albert Camus:
[I]n such a world of conflict, a world of victims and executioners, it is the job of thinking people, not to be on the side of the executioners.

Benjamin Franklin:
There never was a good war or a bad peace.

Blaise Pascal:
Can anything be stupider than that a man has the right to kill me because he lives on the other side of a river and his ruler has a quarrel with mine, though I have not quarrelled with him

Croesus:
In peace the sons bury their fathers, but in war the fathers bury their sons.

That begs the question Who would Jesus nuke?

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"But I say unto you, hate your enemies, and curse them that curse you. Thou shalt hunt them down one by one and kill them for righteousness' sake. And turn not the other cheek; for thou art either with us or against us." - Matthew 5:39-44

Assumptions???? It really did happened gw Bushitter after hearing about a plane flying into the trade center continued to the school, even when they told every1 that bushitter was going to be at that school, he stayed at the school reading a pet goat book-i wonder if hes the goat and every1 else are the sheopple....and its known that the bush team ignore all warnings of an attack by al CIA duh, USAma..but i guess we should ignore that......

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Assumptions???? It really did happened gw Bushitter after hearing about a plane flying into the trade center continued to the school

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The assumption is the actions taken after the fact had a direct bearing on his knowledge of the events.

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"But I say unto you, hate your enemies, and curse them that curse you. Thou shalt hunt them down one by one and kill them for righteousness' sake. And turn not the other cheek; for thou art either with us or against us." - Matthew 5:39-44

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You are one sick motherfucker to pervert that verse and very fascist like and ignorant (evil)!!

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you (Matthew 5:44)"

That is pure integration of Light and Dark. I show love and compassion for you!

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
George Washington

"After a war, a hero is just a man with one leg."
â??Anonymous

The chain reaction of evil--wars producing more wars -- must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation.

~Martin Luther King

After every ''victory'' you have more enemies.

War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious.

~General Smedley Butler

The great error of nearly all studies of war... has been to consider war as an episode in foreign policies, when it is an act of interior politics...

~Simone Weil

We may extend our dominion over the whole continent...but be assured it will be at the price of our free institutions

Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be maintained by violence.

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You are one sick motherfucker to pervert that verse and very fascist like and ignorant (evil)!!

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you (Matthew 5:44)"

That is pure integration of Light and Dark. I show love and compassion for you!

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LOL...If you click on Matthew you would have found it to be a link to a website that I KNOW eg. would have loved!!! Anything in your bible about placing blame or false accusations? :dance:

BURN!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

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The assumption is the actions taken after the fact had a direct bearing on his knowledge of the events.

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Man that dumbass knew what was happening b4 and after. dont give me none of that bs psycho you know better then that...your not talking to sum1 who just awaken from sleep...

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LOL...If you click on Matthew you would have found it to be a link to a website that I KNOW eg. would have loved!!! Anything in your bible about placing blame or false accusations? :dance:

BURN!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

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I click on it for sure, just to check it out...and if we want to quote bible passages then we be here all day.....remember what jesus said about a person hitting you, give him the other cheek(and im not talking about butt cheeks)

good site LoL

Regarding his outfits and staged photo-ops: "And adorn thineselves with an outwardly appearance of righteousness and cleanliness; for that which appears so, shall truly be so." - Matthew 23:27-28

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Man that dumbass knew what was happening b4 and after.

After....yes, before...no.

dont give me none of that bs psycho you know better then that.

Can't blame a guy for trying! FINALLY got ya to admit that terrorists from the middle east have been known to hijack planes. We're comin' along....one step at a time!:thumbsup:

..your not talking to sum1 who just awaken from sleep...

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And I was on the verge of saying good mornin' to ya too!:thumbsup:

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good site LoL

Regarding his outfits and staged photo-ops: "And adorn thineselves with an outwardly appearance of righteousness and cleanliness; for that which appears so, shall truly be so." - Matthew 23:27-28

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See how I modified the text and link to make it appear like a ritious prisonplanet article? :dance:

LoL---Isnt still morning my gawd what happened to the time i havent even gotten stone yet......peace psycho, but i have to disagree about bush knowing b4 hand....