I am very confident that with the knowledge I have that if the world fell into total chaos tomorow I would survive and thrive, how do you think you would fare?
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I am very confident that with the knowledge I have that if the world fell into total chaos tomorow I would survive and thrive, how do you think you would fare?
did you not read my reply to the fuck the police one? you sound way over confident and your plan has holes in it
say it happened right now, what would you do?????
im movin my posts over here, that police one might get deleted.....
your forgetting that in this scenario of total chaos it would most likely come unexpected and those who it blindsided would be stunned, the perfect time for someone like me to rape and pillage what goods they have, first would be to hit gun stores, id hit a big five first to get strapped and then use those weapons to knock off another gun store. Next would be pharamices, next to weapons antibiotics would be the most valueable thing you could have in your possession. After that you would want to knock off a gas station and load a truck full of containers of gas, if this wasnt possible youd want to syphon gas outta cars, after that id rob the best cars for the situation and head off to an pre-determined outpost to get settled and plan out what happens next. I dont see how you would want to do this on your own at all, if you didnt do things like this you would be one of the ones that wouldnt survive long so have fun dying by yourself
you sound like you have over confidence in yourself, you think you would stand up against a militia or any formed group if you ran into one? You dont think it would be give us your shit or get your head blown off??? haha i think youd be killed before you knew it. During a time like that you want to be in numbers,why?, because everyone else will be and those who arent will be the first to get killed because if you arent with us you are against us. It would all depend on where you are when it happens and what exactly happens to kick start it. If they dropped an A-bomb youd be saying is that all you fuckin got while the radiation sterilzes you and gives you radiation posioning instead of being smart and runnin to a safe area, real badass. Food wouldnt be a problem for awhile because of all the fuckin food we got here, before it ran out i would have started growing my own food. I would start a group and i guarentee you the group would sound a SHITLOAD better at the time then being by yourself especially when the group has their own weapons for everyone right off the bat, im prepared for this shit so i dunno who you think your talkin to man. You go rely on yourself and you can go die by yoursel...
I already answered this before posting the link to here.
What do you think everyone else would be doing while you're raiding the stores? How in a city gone wild do you expect to be able to transport anything without it being attacked? If it's a free for all theres only one you can rely on that's yourself.I have no problem in the wild as I can forrage and hunt and will survive happily away from the carnage of the populated areas.
How many "friends" do you have who would survive long enough to form a group? How many of them could you trust if it came down to the raw edge?
Only someone not confident in themselves would require the "safety" (?????) of a group .
i live in a rich area, you know it would blindside those people, people would be rushing to their familes and trying to find out news about whats happening. First day/weeks it would panic, terror, confusion. Yes their would be people just like me but not too many in my area. My area is perfect for this situation, the majority of people would be scared shitless and stunned like someone threw a flashbang at them, in which that time is when the level headed people like myself and the people who i have planned this with will begin our looting/preperation phase. You sound like your just gonna run into the woods and become a mountain man, thats cool man you do that shit but i dont know if you would last any longer than i would. You have to be confident in yourself yes but you also have to have a handful of people that you trust your life with and have confidence in them too, which i have. Its all circumstantial and depends on where you live and how it happens, like i said before. In my area i would be able to get the edge on everyone and something like that would be priceless in those times. This is all just something that people like me and you have simulated in our heads and nobody can be 100% that things would go the way they planned cause its chaos of course but to have a solid plan and backups is as prepared as you can be. I dont live in a big city i live in the suburbs, and i have to say with the people here, my plan would be as perfect as you could get planning wise. I could talk for hours on the details but i dont want to type all that out or give away secrets
The only problem would be the police around here, they are the ones with the armories to begin with, it would be the biggest obstacle for awhile, they would be trying to stop people like me
Each to their own but like I said it's when it comes down to the wire that you have to be 100% certain of the man at your back.The man who saves your life when theres plenty, may well be the one putting a bullet in your back if times get a little too rough.
The problem for inner cities is that the gangs would probably be in the strongest position at first but as things got tougher then they would turn on each other.Suburbs would face a different set of problems and I believe the only way is to head away from the main centres of population.
I wouldnt want to be the one that runs into the woods, what happens if you get ill? you gonna run back out to the city by yourself and try to jack the antibiotics from me??? You gotta realize the value of possesions would change drastically. Weapons would hold the most value as they would be the law and your best friend. Antibiotics would be second being that nobody would be seeing doctors anymore and anyone killed would be left to rot where they died, animals would feed on these rotted infected bodies spreading infections everywhere eventually to the animals in your wooden haven.
surely it would be better if there werent any weapons at all? Cos the no-one would be able to kill each other over who got the worlds last twinkie or whatever.
I'll head for the hills, and live off the land. Build a little hut, and grow corn, and shit!
I have a few weapons, but I'd have to knock off a gun shop for additional ammo. The bears can be a problem in the wild, so...
Not so worried about people, as I won't be around them.
Remember: "A country boy CAN survive!" ;)
ok c4 let's see your plan. step by step..
1. turn off tv.
2. put out joint.
3. put on pants.
4. and so on if you get my drift.
lol yeah thats my plan.... because you know me so well and i always have a joint in my mouth and am laying around doing jackshit all the time with my pants off watching tv, shut the fuck up if you dont have anything more intelligent than that to say....
why dont you go back and read slowly whatd i do ya jackass
sounds like youd be the one caught with your pants down
hmm live and let live...yeah those are some wise words right there since that works so well these days.... i like kill and let god sort them out better
i would befriend the amish
for real-life scenario's and hands-on survival schooling, check out the annual rainbow gatherings. this year's gather will be in southwestern colorado area (site has not been announced yet but telluride area is more than likely) and there 100's people who live in the woods year-round on hand to show others how to build everything from shelters to sanitary shitters...along with ovens made from the earth dug at the campsite and water from our hand-dug springs/water system! details for this years gather (june 15th +/- to july 7th +/-) will be announced here as they pop up...
it's a good way to hook up with what's happening with the off-the-grid people and new & old-time hippies...
thanks for the info, gave me something to respect the hippies for!!
there are anywhere between 10-25,000 people at the gatherings and with this year's gather being held in such a central location, i would expect 25,000+ over the 3-4 weeks plus a few thousand always stay late (well into august) for clean-up...
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Originally Posted by JunkYard
That sounds like a damn good plan to me and I would be there if I could have a gentle Ben as a pet :D
ill be just fine thank you!:D
I wouldn't be worried as much about guns as I would be procurring knives and other blades... you see, the thing about these hypothetical apocalyptic situations is that sooner or later you're going to run out of ammunition.
Hey, I wouldn't mind a little company, lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by HiddenBeauty
I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyPotter
I believe that the secret to staying alive is being as mobile as possible and that doesn't work with half a ton of ammo to cart everywhere you go.The problem with the log cabin and crops scenario is simple ,sooner or later you would have to defend it against marauders and what happens if all your hard work growing the stuff comes to nothing because of some blight on your crops? I know the value of a good blade and just like you that would be high on my list of must haves, a gun is only any use if you have the ammo and like you say sooner or later it's going to run out.
I don't think I would deal with it very well to be perfectly honest.....however if I had time to prepare...lol...nah I really have no idea what I would do....I would probably try and find my family.....i would prefere to die with them than alone...even though I guess we all die alone anyway....but yeah....
I really have no idea what I would do....under pressure I can normally think wuite quickly...so I don't think I would be tooo bad....but I would deffonatly want my mate with me....and my g/f.....lol
and don't forget...you'll need at least 6 months worth of food as it takes time to bring in a crop and we won't be able to rely on game alone as their populations too will be severely depleted, if not cut down by whatever catastrophe that befalls the world, then by being over-hunted. it all depends on what the gods have in mind for this little rock we live on...
im countin the days.......
you could easily fit over 3000 rounds for a pistol in a bookbag.Quote:
Originally Posted by psychocat
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Originally Posted by da haze meister
haha a 15 year old talkin bout carryin 3000 pistol rounds in a bookbag, go figure out how much thatd weigh dude
for whoever thinks blades are gonna save you youll be dead sooner than you think,thats totally unrealistic because someone will always have a gun and youll be the jackass with a blade haha, id think you wouldnt live long enough to see ammuntion supplies run out, i can name 10 gun stores just in a 10-20 mile radius of where i live. Thats just gun stores, there are manufacturing plants and police armorys and numerous other places for acquiring ammo. America is the place to be if you want guns/ammunition my good friend. IF only they were on every corner like starbucks
Carrying around ammo isnt practical, which is why youd need an outpost/safehouse/cache or what have you to restock resupply. I still havent seen a plan better than mine yet.
Del, you dont think you could acquire a 6 month food supply when you are admist chaos and are fending for your life??? I can say it would interesting!
Not to mention bush would probably try and put a curfew out and police/national guard/army would be patrolling stopping people like me
Closest thing you could compare what i would be doing to is the insurgents in iraq, sorry but yeah, id be an insurgent not nessicarily with the same agenda
Overall id have to say the average person couldnt comment accurately on this topic because your mentality right now is so far off from the mentality you would need to survive in a chaotic situation that you couldnt even comprehend it even though you say you could. I for one have had this play out in my head and in my dreams so many times that if it happen i would take it with stride and be calm about it, also helps not really giving a rats ass about your life and if you die for i am a strong believer in Fate. I hear people sayin theyd be ok but i dont hear why theyd be ok, i guarentee you if you go running in to the woods or hills or whatever the majority of you will die miserabely
Dude i posted the EXACT same thing a while back.
Anyways my plan would be to FIRST steal a bunch of trucks w/ flatbeds, then get weapons then just fill up the trucks at a local walmart, walgreens warehouse etc. With a few chainsaws u can head to a forest area and build an encampment within a few days then you start growing your own food. Basically regress into a survival mode which would suck entertainment wise...but i have to say there would be one last stop on my way outta town and that would be: My dealers house hahahah!!!
yea no shit man i would hit any dealer i ever went to, smoke him and take his shit, plus the pharmacies would have useful items like painkillers and benzos because you know you aint gonna sleep without some help in a time like that and being sleep deprived is gonna get you killed as easily as taking a drug
Ok and just to let you know, antibiotics are killing you. Seriously, im not joking, you are only weakening yourself by taking them because its doing the job of your immune system, so far i havent died and ive only taken Amoxicillin once to kill some strep throat that i had, but if your body can fight off a bacteria or a virus then it becomes stronger, and much more resistant to that type of sickness. My ideal life is as close to natural as possible (which isnt even near 100%).
i havent taken an antibiotic for 5 years, i agree with you but they arent killing you its more just like taking the easy way out in a sense, my friends around me wonder why i never catch what they have when they are always goin to the doctor at the first sign of being sick, go figure
in the chaos situation youd need them in some cases, plus theyd have alot of value to barter with
you really think you wanna let your fucked up gun wound heal without taking some antibiotics? your fuckin nuts! youll lose your arm!
all i'm saying is it's far easier to gather up neccessities before they become needed...not to mention safer! a few boxes of canned and dry food would cover one for many months. and you'll also have to save room for the books that'll be needed to restart civilization...yup, food to get me by, seeds for the future and books to put things back together again...that's my list!
well, and my firearms of course for any real-life moderating that may need to be done...
about 10 kilograms.Quote:
Originally Posted by C4nn4Bliss
10 kilograms would break your back if you carried it around for too long. There was a study about that some time ago.
As for me, I'd try to round up a small group of people, perhaps like 5 or 6, with at least one woman that is able to give birth, to continue life. I'd blow up gas stations, destroy buildings, clog irrigation systems, just go crazy. After about a month of this, if I'm still alive, I'd make my way out to bumblescum nebraska or somewhere without many people, make a farm, and kill whoever tried to oppose me. Actually, I'd probably kill whoever stepped foot on my land. I'd erect giant crosses and crucify people on them, as a warning to others. I agree, firearms are incredibly necessary, but it would be so satisfying to disembowel someone who opposed you. Plus, there's something so impersonal about killing a man with a gun.
I'm serious, too. This is my plan.
even 1000 rounds could hold someone out for a good long time. also, there are cars and bikes. i carry a ten kilo bag all the time to and from school. but i do lift weights. my bag weighed in on the wrestling school at about 36 lbs. that is like 16 kilos.Quote:
Originally Posted by graph
and the glorious thing about it graph is you could do exactly that!!!!!! not that i would go that far but still the beauty of it is that it wouldnt take much to throw out civilization back into the middle ages!! hahaha fuckin tickles me in the right spot!
man this thread is just making me think about it more and drool at the mouth even more, goddamnit!!!
I got a feeling a terrorist attack might knock american society off its shitty little peg stilts that it stands upon.
you may be right but the point is kid that its not convienent in the situation we are talking about, plus you wouldnt just be carrying around ammunitionQuote:
Originally Posted by da haze meister