i reckon most drugs should be legal. Except heroin. I think policing in our country is so bogged down with gun related drug offences. I think that legalising drugs would save a lot of gun crime.
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i reckon most drugs should be legal. Except heroin. I think policing in our country is so bogged down with gun related drug offences. I think that legalising drugs would save a lot of gun crime.
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it would cut down on gun crimes. but rehab costs would shoot through the roof. think about it.
hey guys what do you want to do tonight....well lets go down to 7/11 get some blow, weed, acid, and e. and see what happens.
Yes all drugs should be legalized!!!!!!!!
Harder drugs should require some education or liscense to operate, tho, i believe.
Weed and E i think should be legalized not so sure bout cocaine and the addictive shit though, but whatever gets legalized just make sure it isnt meth, which would never happen. Meths dumb and is really bad for you.
technically speaking I think that all substances should be legal. there should not be any laws that restrict the actions of anyone. the problem with this is that for the most part people are stupid. the global society that we live in is not mature enough to lift all restrictions on it's people. can drugs cause serious harm? yes. should anything that can cause harm be illegal? F*ck no.
drugs should be legal, but people should also be responsible when using them. so until people can be responsible, there need to be certain restrictions.
I think cid weed shrooms and stuff like that, but herion and coke and stuff shouldn't although it could relieve a lot of gun crimesQuote:
Originally Posted by Euphoric
I think drugs need to stop being treated with a stupid blanket approach. Personally, I would have drugs controlled as such:
Class 1: Weed and the such 100% legal and contolled like alchohol
class 2: Mushrooms, Acid, Peyote, that sort of stuff. Make it so you register with a federal account, then you can legally buy any of these. however, there will be a limit per week/month of how much you can buy and your account will set the limit. so when you reach the maximum amount you can purchase, you can buy no more until the week/month is up. Then, increase penalties for illegal production and sale. Quantities allowed should be determined by 3rd party scientists experienced in the field, with the scientist's identities kept anomynous so as to avoid political pressure.
Class 3: seriously, undoubtedly damaging drugs like heroin, meth, and crack should remain illegal. Production and sale will have you face jailtime, simple posession will have absolutely no jailtime, but 2-3 months of forced rehab in a secure facility. Posession of extremely large quantities for sale, insanely large amounts like 20 pounds of meth which is obviously for sale on a large-scale, will mean life-imprisonment. I figure ruining hundreds or even thousands of lives deserves such.
Your system is flawed.
I love mushrooms, I ran out my account. My friend loves Acid and he ran out his account. I buy him acid and he gives me mushrooms. Simple as that.
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u foregot one PCP, we had a person putting it into jonts and given it to 12/13 year olds here,, some one took one of his LEGS at the knee with a 357...
he is not a bad ass any more.
dude you're a genius!Quote:
Originally Posted by Euphoric
i always thought drugs like shrooms, weed, acid, should be legalized, but i wasnt sure about meth, heroin, all that stuff because people can abuse it easily.
but if they had to take some special classes to get a liscense for it, then they would use it responsibly
MrDevious, I completely agree with your entire system. Marijuana should be legal, but meth and heroin and such should most definitely remain illegal. They are awful for you and almost guarantee a negative shift in ones life. People who try drugs beyond hallucinagins need to have more respect for their bodies.
i agree with thatQuote:
Originally Posted by FindingTim
but then again, some can handle it, some can't
I think weed and hallucinogens should be legal,and the heavier stuff illegal
I heard in canada that they administer herion to addicts because they prefer that they get the drug from a safe place instead of on the street
i always thought thats actually a good idea
some people just won't change but I think that something like that is a lot better than them going out and risking an accidental overdose
All legal
The licenses would be a good idea, but won't always ensure 'responsible' ppl, there are plenty of shit drivers out there with licenses, and its not exactly hard to drive a car without a license, albeit illegaly, can still be done as long as you don't get caught. With drugs all you will have to do is use the substance and thats it, you won't get prosecuted at all, so,if anything all the illegal users will have more substances if they were legalized but only to licensed users. People will do what they want anyway, some people just won't take heroin, and will prefer the effects of certain drugs, there are plenty of ppl who have used an entire catelogue of drugs, but ended up being an alcoholic. Some people will naturally inhibit there use to stay away from the long term negative effects, others like we see in modern day society, won't. Like the alcoholics we see on the streets, but many hold down business jobs, same with other drug addictions, had a few teachers who were alcoholics. Everyone expects it to turn in to armageddon, smackheads roaming the streets, stealing for there next fix, needles everywhere, but why would they be stealing? and why would they shoot in the street? if the stuff was legal, and didn't interfere with gettin a job, then the smackhead roaming the streets would be of the same mind as the average mugger, stealin cuz he's a prick, not cuz he has no other means of gettin money, and he'd shoot at home mostly, as what I've heard from heroin it just makes you completely content with everything, most choosing to lie down and let it ride over them. There's crime now, there's drugs now, and its illegal, if there was no law this shit would still be happening, but the need for crime would decrease because it wouldn't be as beneficial, because it would be available everywhere, and there's ALWAYS going to be drugs, every civilization in the world has a drug, and we seek recreation, people know heroin is out there, and pills and the like are easy as shit to get, and people do tek em, but most, use it on weekends, or monthly, occasionally more, I don't think it would particularly change very much.
i believe all natural substances should be legal, man made drugs should remain illegal. Simple as.
Soft drugs should be legal. These include, weed, coke, E, shrooms, acid, speed, Valium and any other perscription ones. They should also make a DXM pill. Then people would buy these easily, and not have to go to a dealer and have the option to buy harder drugs. Because Hollland did it the number of hard drug Addicts fell dramaticly.
Opiates are natural and we all know how many problems are caused in society because of heroin abuse.Just because something is natural doesn't make it harmless and allowing everyone free access to all drugs is really asking for trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by somebody someone
The relatively safe drugs are in my opinion Grass,E and shrooms but I don't think we should take anything for granted.
http://www.sayno.com/opiates.html
The only people who use drugs are those who do drugs. Legal drugs would cripple the world economy and wall street. Illegal drugs keeps wall street afloat. I believe that only oil surpasses the money gained from illegal drugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by higher4hockey
It is a huge muti billion $$ per year industry and it is now used to enslave those in the justice system. Prsion labor is on the rise, and what a better inmate than those on pot, heroin, coke, etc etc>? a few months clean and they make great corporate slaves. Privatized prisons baby. Bye Bye miss american pie
dai*ma Outlaw greed, the lust for power, and the need to control others. Those are the dangerous folks:thumbsup:
If it's natural, legalize it and handle it like alcohol. If it's manmade, like meth, then decrimalize it and leave it alone. Then enforce DUI laws. I don't have an issue with people using these substances but do it responsibly and in private. If you use and drive you put others at risk...just like with alcohol.
It is not the governments responsibility to educate us. If we want to do stupid things then so be it...so long as we don't endanger anyone else or infringe on their rights.
I've got mixed feeling about this.
Firstly obviously some things like cannabis should be legalised however things like crack, meth etc. I'd have to have a good think about and even then I don't think I'd know the answer.
One the hand I feel that people should have the right to put any substance they want into their own bodies good or bad, and legalisation would bring about alot more revenue for the government to spend money on things like policeing and better education especially on things like drugs.
However legalisation would probably bring about a massive increase in the usage of hard drugs which may lead to crime and almost certainly health issue and/or personal problems especially involving family.
The question is should someone be allowed to make thier own mistakes or should they be prevented from having the choice.
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daima~ this is true that it would change the economy. but you can't tell me that legalizing all drugs wouldn't create problems! Think about it , a lot of people don't do drugs just because they are illegal. If they suddenly became legal, what do they have to lose.
alot of people dont do drugs because they are illegal?yeah, And?Quote:
Originally Posted by higher4hockey
It's addiction, not availablity, that leads one to drug abuse.
I say that we allow people to choose their own destiny. When those who get high decide to stop? Let's help them.
If they dont decide to stop? Let us as a civilized society make sure that they have safe, clean access to drugs that are made/prepared as safely as possible. This is about safety, isnt it? Let us make sure that the Heroin that Heroin Addicts use is safe as possible. Or that crack, meth, etc etc. Let us build clinics instead of prisons.
Thats my opinion and i honestly believe that everybody is entitled to it.
Here in America cant have it both ways.
We are either free, or we are drug free.:D
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I apologise for forgetting to answer your last question> :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by higher4hockey
What does one have to lose if drugs were legal? The same things they have to lose with them being illegal, except we wouldnt treat them as criminals and cage them.. We would treat them with love and respect and make sure that we are there to help them when they are ready to change. We dont have to criminalize them because they are sick..., do we?
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lol drug users
Rape isnt a substance. Rape is about control and power and sex.Quote:
Originally Posted by higher4hockey
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Why not Crack, Coke and any other harder druge? lol what makes heroin so speical to be the only one to be "Except"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Clever Swine
I think if you legalize cannabis other drugs must be legal as well. For '"addictive drugs" Like coke, meth, and heroin. Those should simply be decriminalized IMO. Also i believe whatever punishment for coke should be equal to the punishment for crack. Crack is so easy to make from coke that there is virtually no way to enforce laws harder for crack than coke. If someone wants to smoke crack than they would simply make it from the coke. And meth IMO should be completely illegal because unlike the other drugs where they pretty much only affect the user (physically), they say that in meth labs the fumes from the batch of meth could easily kill or harm someone if accidentally inhaled.
Drugs are just one of many things keeping the poor poor. I'm not going to refuse a drug because it's illegal, but legalization is just blatant oppression.
What is fucked up is when you can walk down the street in and get caught with and ounce of coke and get 30 years but you can kill your own 5 month old baby and only get probation. This happen in atlanta. When you can go to jail longer for none violent than you can for a violent crime that is Fucked up. But we also keep sending the same S.O.B's back into office...
You took the words right out of my mouth!Quote:
Originally Posted by RevDutch
Nobody suffers like the poor people suffer:DQuote:
Originally Posted by eddievanzant
dai*ma:stoned:
As an anarchist, my position on this should be obvious. I think all drugs should be completely legal, including heroin and crystal meth. Quite frankly, I'm surprised at how many pot users actually support prohibition.
First of all, we have to realize that tons of people really love to get high. There is no way around that. As long as people enjoy experimenting with states of consciousness, there will be people making these drugs and consuming them, regardless of what the law says. Drug laws are useless, since non-users don't need to be coerced into not doing what they're not going to do anyways, and drug users just don't care what the law says.
To think that you can actually rid the world of these substances (for example by making the coca plant extinct) is extremely naïve. Even if it were a desirable goal to render a species extinct, it could never be done. The government has been trying hard for decades but there are too many millions of users who are very interested in keeping these plants alive.
Thus there are two options for society. Either we keep these substances circulating in a black market (where the only means of resolving conflicts is violence), or we open them up to markets under the scrutiny of the public. We can either let drug addicts rot their lives away in shadowy alleys, or we can arrange it so that they can freely admit to everybody that they have a problem without being kidnapped and kept in a cage. We can either educate them on the safest ways to take their drugs and dispense heroin in sanitary needles, or we can banish them from mainstream society and let them get AIDS. At the same time, we can educate the public on the relative dangers of the drugs instead of just branding all illegal drugs as just evil, wicked products of Satan, and anybody who wants to avoid those dangers will freely choose to do that. What option do you think is going to cause the most harm?
http://www.pot-tv.net/archive/shows/...owse-2705.html
Every victim of the War on Drugs should watch that video. In it, Penn and Teller entertainingly show how all drug prohibition is bullshit.
:smokin: LEGALIZATION! OF WEED! Why the fuck do you need anything else? I am all for it and any other drug doesent compair. Not to this lady. Nope.
Should drugs be legalized?
In a way, yes and no. Depends on the substance. But I do believe in the true American way of life and that is simply freedom - wish Bush understood that too :P. There are many substances that I don't like, and I'll never try them. But it's because I've done my research and found out what they are and what they contain. Unfortunately, during school, all one hears is drugs are bad and they kill you. If they were to actually teach what each drug is, what they do, how it affects ya, and keep a neutral view on it, I believe less people would be doing the nasty stuff.
Should cannabis be legal? Hell yea it should be! This world has no right to say that cannabis is illegal while smoking cigs. which is, by far, more dangerous, since they contain only a small amount of tobacco and a ton of crap. Some know the only reason cannabis is illegal because it can be an expensive investment for the government. Imagine, cannabis is legal - no more $60 an 1/8 crap, since everyone can grow it at home, like any other plant. Also there would be less of a chance for someone to accidently get some other substance that could kill them, or injure them.
Should other drugs be legal? Well imagine this: if all drugs were legal, the chances of getting an unknown substance is less since it'll probably be available like any other drug in the pharmacy (which by FDA standards has to be pure). It's funny how individuals tell us that the over-the-counter drugs are different. They're not! I've seen so many people taking Xanax, which is some scary stuff, or individuals living off Advil everyday. If advil or xanax was illegal, these people would be looked upon as drug addicts, lol.
As I mentioned before, we're in a free country, although it isn't really practiced as much anymore with the stupid pointless war going on, so if someone chooses to take drugs, it's their life, their choice. At least if it was legal, they'll be getting a pure version and not some poison on the street. Also by drugs being legal, it'll destroy the black-market since it'll be available to all - therefore cheaper. Teach your children what they are and what they do and they'll say no not because they were taught to say no, but because they know why to say no. So, yes drugs should be all be legal, I'll bet that many will quit because some do like to get drugs for the thrill of getting something that's not allowed.
Alcohol is a drug. Doesn't mean everyone is an alcoholic, just those idiots who over do it all the time. It's the same for drugs. Now certain drugs that form addiction right away, I'm sure you all can guess which ones - including many prescriptions and over-the-counters, they should be banned or at least regulated to prevent addictions. But if they were legal, it'll be the pharmact to regulate them and not some black market jerk who regulates by cutting your (imagine) off. At least that is my two cents.
The Duderino
It's not about what I need. I'm all about the weed, nothing else for me. I just have a big problem with the government spending my money to lock people up for victimless crimes like drug use and prostitution. Why should a drug be illegal? Drug addicts don't get cured in prisons. They get violent and angry and then they're released on the streets again. These people are sick, not criminals. Hospitals, not prisons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lily420
I think drugs that are well known to lead to addiction and overdose should not be legal such as cocaine and heroin and all that other shit. Shrooms, weed and acid just to name a few on the other hand should be legalized. The only way I think cocaine and stuff like that should be legalized is if it's proven to act faster (as a number) as a anesthetic when your in the E.R. faster than some of the legal anesthetics will.
First of all...All drugs can't be legal. Marijuana is the only other drug that isn't legal that should be legal. Everything else is to easy to abuse, people would be tripping balls and try to drive to McDonalds. Dont try to tell me that they wont because people are retarded and someone will.
Its just dumb to even say that drugs that can make you flip out and think everyone is agaisnt you and you end up killing someone.......it would defiantly happen. I agree that people should be able to take whatever they want, whenever they want but some people wouldnt be able to handle it, and then when someone dies for the reason i said earlier people would realize and be like "fuck, we made a mistake" and then they would make everything illegal and then crime would rocket.......etc it would just keep happenig like that
all drugs no exceptions shoulde be legal
Heavy regulations for what we call class a's now eg heroin coke wot not
but nothing is made safer including heroin
by keeping it illegal
just my opinion
:thumbsup: I agree. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut
I read a quote somewhere, don't remember who it was, but it said "If drug addiction is a disease, then the Drug War is a crime." I agree with that statement.
If we think that people who are addicted to drugs have a disease, then how the fuck is putting them into prisons going to solve anything?
I think that everything should be legal, from good old Mary Jane all the way up to Heroin. Its your body, it should be your choice. If you want to take Heroin, then thats your choice (there should be some educating about hard drugs, and not bullshit Freevibe, above the influence, and dare).