People just don't care! Hypocrites!

It is an American's duty as an American (yes Europeans this is about America, and you should in fact be glad about that) to vote and have an opinion on ALL issues otherwise democracy can't work correctly (I guess this is a contradiction because we're a republic, but anyways).
Therefore, one should assume that if an American resident claimed to be patriotic, that person would have an opinion on topics like drugs, but assuming things can lead to trouble.
Either it's just because I'm in highschool and people don't give a shit about anything until they have a real job, or that assumation is completely incorrect and therefore these so called Americans are hypocritical as they really don't care.
Which one is it? I hate being in school because I have a skewed perspective on what others think; so could a few people in the real world tell me what others think? Do they really not care abuot anything that doesn't directly affect them (or even things that do like gasoline prices) even though it's in the best interest of democracy to do so? or am I just anti-so-called-American because I'm in school.

Thats the beauty of democracy. If you want to get involved, you can. If not, then you can let the rest worry about it. ;)

Freedom...

Depends on the person. A lot of people in this so called 'real world' (not so real if you ask me...more fake than real.) are greedy bastards. And most people only vote for stuff they feel strongly about anyway(or that would benefit them if passed/failed). Oh..and a lot of people aren't patriotic. I personally don't vote, and never will until cannabis comes to the polls around here.

Is that what you were asking sort of? Im stoned and your post was a tad bit incoherent.

I'm just surrounded by people who don't give a shit and wondered if adults were the same.

i have european blood...

everyone thinks that one person cant make a differance, and they couldnt be more wrong. Nobody has any right to bitch about whats goin on in America today if they dont vote. all you lazy fuckers who think voting aint cool well youre the reason pot users have a bad name. you make it seem like the rest of us dont give a shit. If all the deadheads and burnouts in florida had turned up, things would be alot differant...

again with the voting bullshit. voting doesnt mean shit. are you aware that citizens votes dont mean anything? if you wanna really see something interesting, dont vote. everyone dont vote and see what happens, the same outcome.

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Originally Posted by spatte21

everyone thinks that one person cant make a differance, and they couldnt be more wrong. Nobody has any right to bitch about whats goin on in America today if they dont vote. all you lazy fuckers who think voting aint cool well youre the reason pot users have a bad name. you make it seem like the rest of us dont give a shit. If all the deadheads and burnouts in florida had turned up, things would be alot differant...

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I don't mean to be prude but another reason pot smokers have a bad name is because they don't come out and stand up for pot... which putting a book for a disclaimer pretty much does.

It's like saying, 'I got up and voted, but I'm not telling you why or who I voted for and any information I may leak that leads to what I think may kill me.. my name is john doe and i live in a white house, don't arrest me please.

YOU WANT TO FUCKING CHANGE - QUIT BEING AFRAID OF SMOKING POT!!!

"In any civilized society, it is every citizen's responsibility to obey just laws. But at the same time, it is every citizen's responsibility to disobey unjust laws." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

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Originally Posted by king kong bong

again with the voting bullshit. voting doesnt mean shit. are you aware that citizens votes dont mean anything? if you wanna really see something interesting, dont vote. everyone dont vote and see what happens, the same outcome.

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People don't vote now... that's why america is in the shitter... not cause people are voting. Please educate yourself or quit sounding like a dumbass. Just because your 1 in a 50,000,000 of a presidental vote doesn't mean much that doesn't mean you can't vote in your city/county/state elections. You know they have those too, and some only win with 100 or so votes. I won an election in high school that was harder than some mayor races. It's not the fact that one vote doesn't count, it's the fact that you think one vote won't count. So please shut the fuck up or learn how our government is set up, cause IF people use it correctly and vote it runs better than ANY SOCIETY EVER. But when people don't vote and allow the government to take the power away from the people is when democracy fails.

look dumby when will you learn, YOU HAVE NO SAY. YOU'RE A PEON. I WILL FUCKIN KILL YOU IF YOU DISRESPECT ME AGAIN. HAVE SOME FUCKIN RESPECT AND CLASS YOU DUMBASS.

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Originally Posted by king kong bong

look dumby when will you learn, YOU HAVE NO SAY. YOU'RE A PEON. I WILL FUCKIN KILL YOU IF YOU DISRESPECT ME AGAIN. HAVE SOME FUCKIN RESPECT AND CLASS YOU DUMBASS.

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haha your not gonna get your point across like that. I also believe our votes dont count, but theres more to it then that. I think that they dont count when someone doesnt want them to count, which is why i dont partake in voting to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Gumby

People don't vote now... that's why america is in the shitter... not cause people are voting. Please educate yourself or quit sounding like a dumbass. Just because your 1 in a 50,000,000 of a presidental vote doesn't mean much that doesn't mean you can't vote in your city/county/state elections. You know they have those too, and some only win with 100 or so votes. I won an election in high school that was harder than some mayor races. It's not the fact that one vote doesn't count, it's the fact that you think one vote won't count. So please shut the fuck up or learn how our government is set up, cause IF people use it correctly and vote it runs better than ANY SOCIETY EVER. But when people don't vote and allow the government to take the power away from the people is when democracy fails.

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are you telling me you dont think that the voting system is rigged most of the time??? Do you count all the votes, or do you listen to what you are told....

im with you c4nn4bliss. dumbasses like dumby dont wanna listen and resort to name calling and online toughness. so i have to threaten their life just like the us government does.

Shut up and vote or die bitch.I mean Paris Hilton votes....dosn't..she..?

lol did you see the south park with p diddy and the vote or die one fucking awesome

vote or die motherfucker vote or die!

For those who believe their votes count, how do you know??

thats just like britney spears saying we should just support our president and the choices he makes. meanwhile shes a country bumpkin moron who walks around bare foot most of the time.

^ Giving blow jobs in front of the press making the easiest money ever.I mean how hard is it to accumulate the attention span of a bunch of horny 50 year old sweaty men, or 12 y/o teeny bopping sluts in the making?

yea SKATE OR DIE.........

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Originally Posted by king kong bong

look dumby when will you learn, YOU HAVE NO SAY. YOU'RE A PEON. I WILL FUCKIN KILL YOU IF YOU DISRESPECT ME AGAIN. HAVE SOME FUCKIN RESPECT AND CLASS YOU DUMBASS.

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"im with you c4nn4bliss. dumbasses like dumby dont wanna listen and resort to name calling and online toughness. so i have to threaten their life just like the us government does."


And what is that?? Not name callin I'm assuming... And I never threated to kick you ass. That's stupid, you're online... I was trying have an educated disscusion. Do you not notice people fleeing this site like it's a virus, it's not hard to see why. I feel sorry for Ron for trying to put up a forum when people like you come and ruin it. Look at the fucking threads, this forum is going down the shitter fater than ever because of ignorant fucks like you.

You want some fucking respect, earn it you piece of shit... try educating yourself beyond a third grade education and try bringing facts to an argument. You have brought up one reason that i can find why voting doesn't work and that's Paris Hilton... JESUS FUCKING CHRIST... argue about something worth it... voting doesn't work cause you sit infront of your computer all day with the tv on in the background... get out and enjoy the real world... the one without PARIS FUCKING HILTON!!! Learn what this country was founded on... the freedoms you're allowed by the consitution, the life you're fucking allowed to live... it only exsists cause someone voted...

Voting only stops working when people stop voting.

And no I don't count every vote, and yes I think elections have been rigged, that's why Bush is where he is... here's perfect proof of why voting doesn't work... http://filmstripinternational.com/fi...strip=election

But that doesn't mean the principles of voting don't work... it means we should stop allowing people to rig elections. Stop trying to be a hardass by getting your dick hard online, it's a fucking joke... try instead to spend the time not looking like a dumbass ok...


"The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who in time of great moral crises maintain their neutrality." -- Dante Alighieri (1265-1321)

kong bong was only messin yall

this dude is a dick. toughguy huh? i will slap the shit outta you you fuckin muppet. let me refresh your memory with the name calling dingleberry..

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Please educate yourself or quit sounding like a dumbass.

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So please shut the fuck up or learn how our government is set up, cause IF people use it correctly and vote it runs better than ANY SOCIETY EVER.

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so fuck off you nutsack.

Because I am awesome/the threadstarter, I will tell both of you what you think and you will quit with the insults. If EVERYONE voted, every vote would matter; unfortunately, voting is not required, and therefore one vote doesn't matter. I understand that may sound like a paradox, but think about it: if one pot-smoker had the initiative to vote, but all his friends didn't because they weren't required by law, that one pot-smoker's vote didn't matter. Here's the line you all agree upon:
Until everyone must vote, one person's vote doesn't matter.
There are more effective ways to change laws than secret ballot, however, like marching and lobbying.

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There are more effective ways to change laws than secret ballot, however, like marching and lobbying.

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or like pillaging and rioting...

Yes, those too.

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this dude is a dick. toughguy huh? i will slap the shit outta you you fuckin muppet. let me refresh your memory with the name calling dingleberry..





so fuck off you nutsack.

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I don't think I called you any names in either of the two quotes... you sounded like a dumbass so I said so, and you need to shut up cause you sound like a dumbass. To me that is not name calling that's stating a fact. 'muppet', 'dingleberry' and 'nutsack' however are names... I can prove you're a dumbass... you just have to read about it in this thread. should I call you stupid instead... is that more 'pc'. I was calling you out on your stupidity because you displayed it so very well... next time I'll try to use a more formal word however. But to me that is not a name, it's an atribute you've been able to display online, which i might ad is kinda hard to do. So call me a muppet and a nutsack, you have no idea what I am or look like... but I do know that you are stupid, and that will never change.

yada yada yada whatever dickhead. i dont have to prove shit to you. i dont have to display the inner workings of my brain to impress you. go learn something useful like how to survive.

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Thats the beauty of democracy. If you want to get involved, you can. If not, then you can let the rest worry about it. ;)

Freedom...

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True dat!!!!

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Originally Posted by Gumby

but I do know that you are stupid, and that will never change.

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Ain't that the truth....you can't fix stupid.

is that directed towARDS me?