American Troops Kill Children in Cowardly Attack

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Frightened after being fired upon during one of their infamous pre-dawn raids on the village of Ishaki, U.S. troops ran back to the safety of their armored vehicles and called in an airstrike. Five children, two women, and two men were slaughtered as their house collapsed under American bombs.

BAGHDAD (CNN) -- A U.S.-led raid on a suspected site of terror network al Qaeda in Iraq killed 11 civilians -- including five children -- according to Iraqi police, but the U.S. military said the death toll from the strike north of Balad was four.

In addition to the children, the youngest of whom was 6 months old, the dead included four women and two men, police said.

A U.S. military spokesman said a suspected insurgent, two women and a child were killed.

U.S.-led forces came under fire as they raided the building, said Maj. Tim O'Keefe. Air support fired on the site, and the targeted building and a vehicle were destroyed, O'Keefe said.

A man suspected of being a "foreign fighter facilitator" was taken into coalition custody and is being questioned.

Police Capt. Laith Mohammed told The Associated Press that U.S. warplanes and armor were involved in the strike, which flattened a house and killed the 11 people inside.

An AP reporter at the scene said the roof of the house collapsed, three cars were destroyed and two cows killed.

AP photographs showed the bodies of two men, five children and four other covered bodies arriving at a hospital in Tikrit accompanied by grieving relatives.

Show a credible link..like AP or BBC, not some Tinfoil hat which looks to be posted by a random person. The CNN Article that is pasted on their tells nothing cept that US/Police forces doubt the body count.

Some folks are far to quick to look for anything they can blame the US on. Their intolerance and hate is disgusting.

I do pray that whoever is truly responsible for that is brought to swift and harsh justice.

You only trust things that are said by large capitalist media corporations? And you expect the US military to be completely honest about body counts? Well, even if for some reason somebody completely fabricated this story and doctored some pictures so it looks like some children were killed, you can't deny that the United States Army is murdering innocent children in Iraq. Then instead of apologizing they go ahead and insult them by calling them "collateral damage". For what? Supposedly to install a government that will follow the majority opinion in Iraq. But we know that's just as much a lie as the first excuse for setting their country on fire (WMDs). If they really cared about the majority opinion in Iraq, they would leave immediately like the Iraqis want them to.

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Originally Posted by mont974x4

Some folks are far to quick to look for anything they can blame the US on. Their intolerance and hate is disgusting.

I do pray that whoever is truly responsible for that is brought to swift and harsh justice.

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I do not hate the US. I am not intolerant of America or Americans. I hate the American government, the largest terrorist organization in the world, and the administration bent on world domination that is in charge of it.

Let's face it. This is terrorism. No matter how much you want to deny it, children are dying in Iraq as a result of the actions of the US military. If we define terrorism as violence against civilians for political purposes, I don't see how the whole war isn't a huge act of terrorism.

How about figuring out a way to not support the government without totally insulting American troops?

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Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Frightened after being fired upon during one of their infamous pre-dawn raids on the village of Ishaki, U.S. troops ran back to the safety of their armored vehicles and called in an airstrike. Five children, two women, and two men were slaughtered as their house collapsed under American bombs.

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How bout calling it the way it is? The troops were FIRED UPON then called in an airstrike. How the fuck are the "American troops acting cowardly"? Maybe the insurgents using kids as human shields or at least putting them in harms way are the cowards. That kind of title wouldn't sell shit for articles though!!!:thumbsup:

Sadly, the truth doesn't sell very well these days.

"That kind of title wouldn't sell shit for articles though!!!"


And that is the really sad thing. People only want to know what is wrong with western society nowadays. We are committing cultural suicide.

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

How bout calling it the way it is? The troops were FIRED UPON then called in an airstrike. How the fuck are the "American troops acting cowardly"? Maybe the insurgents using kids as human shields or at least putting them in harms way are the cowards. That kind of title wouldn't sell shit for articles though!!!:thumbsup:

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My thoughts exactly Psycho. What are they supposed to do?

"Hmmm, someone in that building is shooting an AK-47 at us but there could be women and children in the building so we'll just forget about it and move on..."

LOL

If the insurgents,terrorists, freedom fighters, camel jockeys, or whatever the hell you want to call them, use a building filled with women and children for cover they are to blame. Not the soldiers trying to defend themselves.

If you have to balme somebody blame that cocksucker president that we have for sending them there, not the soldiers. They're just good kids doing their job.:thumbsup:

This is an outrage yet again the americans have to kill more innocent men,women and children.Come on now all of you who thinks it's ok, you are all braindead and need to give up the cannabis because it's not helping you you narqs.Seriously can't you see that these innocent people and plenty more are dying for know cause and don't give me the bull shit of the soilders are innocent to because lets face they can always refuse to do the job and they are the true heros not this people that invade a country thinks it ok to kill innocent people and repressing them for there religion it's shameful to say the least.:mad:

Would you have us wait and fight them at home? Or simply just respond to their attacks here? America has never been imperialist. Out nations history does not support such claims.

The only way for a troop to rightfully refuse to do this job would have been to not enlist or have legal conscientious objector status. Otherwise, they would be somewhere between deriliction of duty and treason.

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Originally Posted by Miss Green

This is an outrage yet again the americans have to kill more innocent men,women and children.Come on now all of you who thinks it's ok, you are all braindead and need to give up the cannabis because it's not helping you you narqs.Seriously can't you see that these innocent people and plenty more are dying for know cause and don't give me the bull shit of the soilders are innocent to because lets face they can always refuse to do the job and they are the true heros not this people that invade a country thinks it ok to kill innocent people and repressing them for there religion it's shameful to say the least.:mad:

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Howdy Miss Green,

On the face of it-it does seem outrageous and inhumane..however,this is going to continue to happen,as long as the folks there,continue to harbor the terrorists in their homes..and the terrorists love using families as human shields,in order to evoke your kind of reaction.

Another thing is,is that you presume all of the civilians there,to be innocent-when in fact-if they harbor the terrorists willingly,they are not innocent and can expect to become victims of the violence directed at the terrorists.

Maybe when the folks there,git tired of their family's gittin caught in the cross-fire,then they'll stop harboring the terrorists in their homes.

Have a good one ...

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy Miss Green,

Maybe when the folks there,git tired of their family's gittin caught in the cross-fire,then they'll stop harboring the terrorists in their homes.

Have a good one ...

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Howdy Torog,

I'm afraid that makes way to much sense for some people to grasp!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

But Psycho and Torog, why don't you understand the soldiers could just say "no', refuse to do their job, and plant pansies all over Iraq instead. Jeeze, some people just don't get it. ;)

LOL

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Originally Posted by Fengzi

But Psycho and Torog, why don't you understand the soldiers could just say "no', refuse to do their job, and plant pansies all over Iraq instead. Jeeze, some people just don't get it. ;)

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Think we better swap out the pansies for opium. At least then they could kill the pain when an insurgents AK-47 rings out.
Good point though! I say we ALL refuse to do our jobs for a week and see what happens.:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Think we better swap out the pansies for opium. .:thumbsup:

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Just like Afghanistan :thumbsup:

It is sickening to even be considered an Amerikan now after all of the atrocities that that country has done. I mean WTF! If there are supposed terrorists there, do your investigation and then go after them!! Don't kill innocent women and children!!! It seems like the US created more problems then it solves, just like every other venture the US has taken up. The Middle East sees the US as invaders and they do not want a materialistic lifestyle imposed on them. Amerika needs all that oil to retain superpower status in the 21st century. Fuck this shit dude I'm going to Canada!

Bye, have a great trip and I wish you the best of luck.

Be sure to dress warm now!!:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

Fuck this shit dude I'm going to Canada!

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Leaving the U.S. is not the solution---Terrorist have taken control of the USA and you cant let them win the infowars:dance: :dance:

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Originally Posted by eg420ne

Terrorist have taken control of the USA

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Prisonplanet.com has taken over the U.S.??? OMG!!!:what:

Hola! psycho--- Who said anything about prisonplanet-im talking about your boyking up in the WhiteHousegate----the number 1 terrorist of them all, go-ahead make me laugh by defending LordBushler:stoned:

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Originally Posted by mont974x4

Would you have us wait and fight them at home? Or simply just respond to their attacks here? America has never been imperialist. Out nations history does not support such claims.

The only way for a troop to rightfully refuse to do this job would have been to not enlist or have legal conscientious objector status. Otherwise, they would be somewhere between deriliction of duty and treason.

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No the better solution would be not to of invaded this country in the first place let them sort out there own political problems not other coutries coming in and trying to do sort out another country in which they have no real concept of what the real mcoy is and have no further plans of so called improving the country.Now in regards to the troops they shouldn't be in the army true but what about those that develop a consciousness and realise what the hell am i doing here killing these people that have no intentions of invading america.And it would be amazing to see all the troops turn there back what bush would have to deal with.:mad: :clap:

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy Miss Green,

On the face of it-it does seem outrageous and inhumane..however,this is going to continue to happen,as long as the folks there,continue to harbor the terrorists in their homes..and the terrorists love using families as human shields,in order to evoke your kind of reaction.

Another thing is,is that you presume all of the civilians there,to be innocent-when in fact-if they harbor the terrorists willingly,they are not innocent and can expect to become victims of the violence directed at the terrorists.

Maybe when the folks there,git tired of their family's gittin caught in the cross-fire,then they'll stop harboring the terrorists in their homes.

Have a good one ...

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No it's not the "terroist" the make me feel this way it's my government your government and the british govt and what they are doing.Not only are they commiting war crimes but they have no further plans or solution except making the place into a third world country. Well yes maybe they will get tired but over here there hasn't been any death of any australian soilders (not that I wish that)but i don't think they will be really provoked to do anything except people like myself and plenty of other people who disagree with the war and that it shouldn't of happened in the first place.:mad: Don't you think that this is an inhumane and most importantly an illegal war?:confused:

I guess it depends on your point of view. I don't beleive the war is illegal.


I haven't heard any viable options from those that oppose the war either.

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Originally Posted by Fengzi

But Psycho and Torog, why don't you understand the soldiers could just say "no', refuse to do their job, and plant pansies all over Iraq instead. Jeeze, some people just don't get it. ;)

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Howdy Fengzi,

If I said "no",every time I was given an order I didn't like,when I was in the military,I would have swiftly recieved a dishonorable discharge,saying "no" to a direct order,is a serious thing in the military,and not taken lightly.

Most soldiers want to spread freedom and democracy and they want to protect their fellow soldiers too,very few will lay down their weapons in a war-zone,when their fellow soldier's lives are at stake.

That liberals would say that all a soldier has to do,is to refuse to obey any order that they don't like,is convincing evidence,that liberals have no business being soldiers and do not understand how the military works or what it means to be a soldier and take the oath to defend one's country and citizens.

Have a good one ...

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Originally Posted by mont974x4

I haven't heard any viable options from those that oppose the war either.

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Well, just because! Didn't ya know that?:rolleyes:

lol I am actually hoping that the Dem's come up with some good ideas soon. Otherwise it's going to be a boring election season.

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Originally Posted by mont974x4

lol I am actually hoping that the Dem's come up with some good ideas soon. Otherwise it's going to be a boring election season.

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Good ideas? How bout a plan....a good plan....a plan for the nation...a plan that we will all love. Kerry was funny to say the least.
Now we got Billary on the loose! Do ya think they'd bring back Monica for Bill?:dance:

LMAO maybe.

I keep hearing that they have a plan or better ideas but I haven't heard any details

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy Fengzi,

If I said "no",every time I was given an order I didn't like,when I was in the military,I would have swiftly recieved a dishonorable discharge,saying "no" to a direct order,is a serious thing in the military,and not taken lightly.

Most soldiers want to spread freedom and democracy and they want to protect their fellow soldiers too,very few will lay down their weapons in a war-zone,when their fellow soldier's lives are at stake.

That liberals would say that all a soldier has to do,is to refuse to obey any order that they don't like,is convincing evidence,that liberals have no business being soldiers and do not understand how the military works or what it means to be a soldier and take the oath to defend one's country and citizens.

Have a good one ...

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Torog, Torog, Torog.... I know all this, my comment was something called sarcasm.

I despise Bush, mainly because I think he's an idiot who has no business being the President, but our soldiers have my full support. I'm not one of these bleeding heart Liberals who thinks we should just pack up and come home. While I don't think we should have gone in the first place I do feel we should finish what we started. Both for the benefit of the Iraqi people and for the fact that I don't feel it's appropriate for us to run away with our tail between our legs.

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

! Do ya think they'd bring back Monica for Bill?:dance:

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Who knows, they just might bring Monica back for Hillary ;)

That's a 3some I wouldnt want to know about let alone watch. I'd have to wash my eyes out with bleach. lol

Who said anything about a 3some? :thumbsup:

LOL ok so my minds in the gutter this morning.

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Originally Posted by Fengzi

Who said anything about a 3some? :thumbsup:

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I'm sure ol' Bill would at least be peeking from a closet doin' the knuckle shuffle on the piss pump!:dance:

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Originally Posted by Oneironaut

http://www.infoshop.org/inews/articl...60315075846322

Frightened after being fired upon during one of their infamous pre-dawn raids on the village of Ishaki, U.S. troops ran back to the safety of their armored vehicles and called in an airstrike. Five children, two women, and two men were slaughtered as their house collapsed under American bombs.

BAGHDAD (CNN) -- A U.S.-led raid on a suspected site of terror network al Qaeda in Iraq killed 11 civilians -- including five children -- according to Iraqi police, but the U.S. military said the death toll from the strike north of Balad was four.

In addition to the children, the youngest of whom was 6 months old, the dead included four women and two men, police said.

A U.S. military spokesman said a suspected insurgent, two women and a child were killed.

U.S.-led forces came under fire as they raided the building, said Maj. Tim O'Keefe. Air support fired on the site, and the targeted building and a vehicle were destroyed, O'Keefe said.

A man suspected of being a "foreign fighter facilitator" was taken into coalition custody and is being questioned.

Police Capt. Laith Mohammed told The Associated Press that U.S. warplanes and armor were involved in the strike, which flattened a house and killed the 11 people inside.

An AP reporter at the scene said the roof of the house collapsed, three cars were destroyed and two cows killed.

AP photographs showed the bodies of two men, five children and four other covered bodies arriving at a hospital in Tikrit accompanied by grieving relatives.

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I know that sucks..
but it is a part of war
It is impossible to be sure of who your fighting
It is not the 18,19,20 or 21 year old Marines fault
They have enlisted to fight for our country
they have 2 choices
Kill or be killed or
Go A.W.O.L.

Our government killed those women and children. ..

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Originally Posted by mont974x4

I guess it depends on your point of view. I don't beleive the war is illegal.


I haven't heard any viable options from those that oppose the war either.

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I don't hear any valid reasons as to why they all went to the war either except one thing I do know is that it's based on lies and intentions to get the oil but we just didn't want to come out and say it cause it's not a valid reason to go to war there was never any intentions of "invading"america I mean seriously I don't think anyone would want to waste there time or money.And really anyone that voted for bush or supports the war should be held accountable for murder because that's it end of story.:mad: :thumbsup: