US WARNS IRAN OF CONSEQUENCES OF NUCLEAR AMBITION

Well guys..it looks like we will go to war with Iran if they do not give up their "noo-que-lerrrr" ambitions as Bush proudly says it. Big repeat of history. America invading Iraq would be the equivalent of the Nazis invading Czechoslovakia and now Iran will be Nazi invasion of Poland in 1939 which really started WWII. God help us all.
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States on Sunday warned that Iran faced "painful consequences" if it continued sensitive nuclear activities and said the problem would become increasingly difficult to resolve if the international community did not confront it.

Ahead of what could be a crucial international meeting on Iran on Monday, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton reaffirmed that the United States will use "all tools at our disposal" to thwart Iran's nuclear program and is already "beefing up defensive measures" to do so.

"The Iran regime must be made aware that if it continues down the path of international isolation, there will be tangible and painful consequences," he told 4,500 delegates to the annual convention of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the leading pro-Israel U.S. lobbying group.

Monday's meeting of the 35-nation International Atomic Energy Agency governing board is expected to take stock of Iran's continued defiance of U.S. and European demands to end sensitive weapons-related uranium enrichment activity and then hand the case over to the UN Security Council.

The United States is discussing a 30- to 60-day deadline for Tehran to halt its nuclear program and cooperate with international inspectors or face intensified pressure in the security council, a U.S. official told Reuters.

Iran on Sunday again threatened to begin large-scale nuclear enrichment if the case is taken up by the security council.

Bolton said Iran poses a "comprehensive threat" as a state-sponsor of terrorism and a nuclear aspirant, and so "we must be prepared to ... use all the tools at our disposal to stop the threat."

'LONGER WE WAIT ... HARDER IT WILL BECOME TO SOLVE'

"The longer we wait to confront the threat Iran poses, the harder and more intractable it will become to solve," he warned.

Bolton reaffirmed that Washington does not see the security council moving quickly to impose sanctions on Iran. Veto-wielding members Russia and China have made clear their reluctance.

But he said many other governments have begun to speak publicly of sanctions, implying they may take action outside the security council.

The United States has had sweeping sanctions on Iran since after the 1979 Iranian revolution, but it is looking at ways to further use its Proliferation Security Initiative to deny Iran materials it needs for its nuclear program, Bolton said.

The United States and key allies, led by the European Union trio of Britain, France and Germany, are convinced Iran is trying to produce a nuclear weapon, but Tehran insists it is only interested in civilian nuclear energy.

Former chief UN weapons inspector David Kay, who also spoke at the AIPAC conference, discussed the limits of weapons inspections and said a conclusive judgment about Iran's program may only come too late, after it conducts a weapons test.

The IAEA is expected to weigh a report on Monday by the IAEA chief saying Iran has ignored a February 4 resolution urging it to shelve uranium-enrichment work to ease the crisis.

Instead, Iran is vacuum-testing 20 centrifuges, which convert uranium into fuel for power plants or, if highly purified, bombs, the report said. Iran also plans to install 3,000 centrifuges later this year in a push to "industrial scale" enrichment, according to the IAEA report.

The IAEA board voted on February 4 to report Iran to the security council, but on the condition the world body would not flex its muscle at least until after Monday's session.

If the security council did not act in a timely manner, Bolton said, the council's credibility would be damaged.

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

Well guys..it looks like we will go to war with Iran if they do not give up their "noo-que-lerrrr" ambitions as Bush proudly says it. Big repeat of history. America invading Iraq would be the equivalent of the Nazis invading Czechoslovakia and now Iran will be Nazi invasion of Poland in 1939 which really started WWII.

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So what your saying is that Iraq and Iran were part of the U.S. at one time like Poland and Parts of Czechoslovakia were parts of Germany before the Versailles Treaty? Interesting, I didn't even know that we losed two states in the middle east because of an international agreement!

I can really see how these are "equivalent"!!!:thumbsup:

My prediction is Iran doesnt cooperate
America invades Iran eventually and does their usual thing
Iran retaliates with a nuclear attack on New York(or somehwere)
(based on 1993 reports that Iran has atleast 2 nuclear tipped soviet missles)
Which initiates World War III AKA Armageddon

I really doubt they would start manufacturing their own weapons grade plutonium without some of the finished product to back them up.

Atleast attacking Iran is a good cause unlike Iraq, we shoulda held our nut until now and just busted it all over Iran

because i believe we are repeating history again. remember...3 anti-christs nostradamus predicted. bush must be the last one in my opinion. wow america becoming like nazi germany was :( ...i foresee it as being large rallies in the capitol with the cross and flag coinciding together with its current Roman fascist seals. it resembles those of Fascist Italy and their leaders' flag and also on one of the European Union flags. don't forget the eagle!

well we will see what happens. edgar cayce predicted a market collapse in 2007. maybe this can be because of a war with iran that the US will not hesiate to do if they feel it is really a threat to their interests...not to its people. another attack may occur i think and that will make americans hate iranians. it will be another hoax as was 911. thats the sad part about our leaders. thats the sad part of war. people are getting killed for dumb shit that can be solved right here on Earth

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Originally Posted by TakeFlight

My prediction is Iran doesnt cooperate
America invades Iran eventually and does their usual thing
Iran retaliates with a nuclear attack on New York(or somehwere)
(based on 1993 reports that Iran has atleast 2 nuclear tipped soviet missles)
Which initiates World War III AKA Armageddon

I really doubt they would start manufacturing their own weapons grade plutonium without some of the finished product to back them up.

Atleast attacking Iran is a good cause unlike Iraq, we shoulda held our nut until now and just busted it all over Iran

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It will be a game of "Lets Make a Deal".

I agree Iran won't cooperate.

America won't invade instead either Israel or European countries take out their facilities.

China will be appeased (since Iran is one of their major oil suppliers) by given a promise of oil rights and also that oil fields will remain intact.

No help will come from the other middle eastern countries due to that fact that Iran is Shi'ite and the others are prodominately Sunni. Exception Iraq.

Door #1 for WW3
Door# 2 for closed door deals destroying all WMD sites
Door #3 Israel creates a parking lot

The only sure thing is that Iran will NEVER be allowed to go full nuclear!:thumbsup:

well fucken north korea has nuclear weapons, yet bush is not going after them. our government plays both sides remember. so they dont want iran to go nuclear yet they'll allow north korea to have them. the problem is that america needs to get back to the principles of the constitution and be neutral and peace offering its military only when it is neccessary and after investigations. always america must be a peaceful nation with its power. it was not made to be use against other countries to suit our interests.

we have the technology already to reduce global warmining. but why is our government not letting this? maybe aliens are involved in this as their is some credible evidence supporting it. besides, i think everyone has it in their conscious mind that there is life out there and that we are a part of nature. just look at the sky at night!!!

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

well fucken north korea has nuclear weapons, yet bush is not going after them. our government plays both sides remember. so they dont want iran to go nuclear yet they'll allow north korea to have them.


They HAVE nuclear weapons and would launch if we were to attack. Not to mention they would have complete Chinese support.

the problem is that america needs to get back to the principles of the constitution and be neutral and peace offering its military only when it is neccessary and after investigations. always america must be a peaceful nation with its power. it was not made to be use against other countries to suit our interests.

The statements of the Iranian President speaks for itself. They would be a threat.

we have the technology already to reduce global warmining. but why is our government not letting this? maybe aliens are involved in this as their is some credible evidence supporting it. besides, i think everyone has it in their conscious mind that there is life out there and that we are a part of nature. just look at the sky at night!!!

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Global warming? The other day it was 10 degrees outside and the local weather showed a record high of 61 degrees in 1891 or something like that. We go in weather cycles, mother earth has a way of healing herself.:thumbsup:

nostradamus PREDICTED that the 3rd and most terrible of all anti-christs will be of middle eastern origin, some people say it is Osama and there are a few other speculations of who it could be, other day i was thinking that maybe the US is the third anti-chirst and when he says of middle eastern origin maybe he means thats where this entity will gain its title of anti-christ, nostradamus was way to ahead of his time and the way he wrote his phrophcies is extremely cryptic and confusing and i think sometimes misleading for a purpose

I wouldnt be one bit suprised if bush invaded iran if he thought it would raise his approval rating and maybe stop him from getting impeached(i think its in motion already) as a sort of last resort tactic, but that is only under certain circumstances

only time will tell

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Originally Posted by TakeFlight

nostradamus PREDICTED that the 3rd and most terrible of all anti-christs will be of middle eastern origin, some people say it is Osama and there are a few other speculations of who it could be, other day i was thinking that maybe the US is the third anti-chirst and when he says of middle eastern origin maybe he means thats where this entity will gain its title of anti-christ, nostradamus was way to ahead of his time and the way he wrote his phrophcies is extremely cryptic and confusing and i think sometimes misleading for a purpose

I wouldnt be one bit suprised if bush invaded iran if he thought it would raise his approval rating and maybe stop him from getting impeached(i think its in motion already) as a sort of last resort tactic, but that is only under certain circumstances

only time will tell

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Funny you should bring up the third anti-christ. They are talking about it on the history channel right now. He will be a non believer in Christ being the son of God that will be loved by people in all lands. During a promise of a 7 year peace for Israel he will rage war against Israel after 3.5 years.
They make references to the scriptures of John in the bible....for what it's worth.

Iran plans to start selling Oil in Euros on March 20th. If we invade them that will be the reason. We invaded Iraq when saddam said he was gonna sell oil in euros. It actually has little to do with weapons.

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Originally Posted by halo

Iran plans to start selling Oil in Euros on March 20th. If we invade them that will be the reason. We invaded Iraq when saddam said he was gonna sell oil in euros. It actually has little to do with weapons.

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So why is J. Chirac of France making threats to Iran?

yeah i thought it was weird when the guy above me brought it up as i am in the middle of reading a book by a guy name houge and its his view of what all his quatrains mean, its pretty interesting,

The most interesting is the way he saw these visions, although the book im reading doesnt go into detail of how he induced his visions. What blows me away is that his most accurate prophices were those that were closest to where he lived and the farther away his prophecies were the less accurate they were, bizzare, his visions sound something similar to a self-induced guided hallucinogenic trip but it says that his technique was passed down through generations and was a family heirloom and he memorized it and burned it.

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Iran plans to start selling Oil in Euros on March 20th. If we invade them that will be the reason. We invaded Iraq when saddam said he was gonna sell oil in euros. It actually has little to do with weapons.

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yes, liberation and WMD are just cover stories, it has more to do with spreading an empire, getting the world under globalist control...installing puppet governments to control the markets of the world...to create a global feudalist society with the credit/money controlled by world bankers...

our country is being sold out to global interests...as soon as we sell off our water, roads, security, ports, etc...get rid of pension funds, go to a cashless society with thumbscanning (or some other form of cashless biometrics) and get issued national id cards...we'll get Argentina'd so to speak...consolidating the real wealth with the fake federal reserve system, and bringing America down to third world dictatorship status...

Yeah another bullshit story just so they can invade iran because they arn't listening to there demands and we all know how the american people get when they don't get there own way they invade a country!And how on earth can they afford to do this and how are they going to get more troops.....CONSCRIPTION:thumbsup:

i'll fight for freedom and my country when the threat is real and there and has attacked, but i'm not going to fight for an empire that makes and makes up enemies and attacks itself and attacks sovereign countries to spread the empire, under the guise of spreading freedom...

There is no differance between America's leader and Irans. They are both religious fanatics and dangerous to the world.

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

There is no differance between America's leader and Irans. They are both religious fanatics and dangerous to the world.

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You clearly have no clue what your talking about. W is for sure religous but a finatic?? Have you even met a die hard evangelical? He isn't even in the same ballpark as them.:o

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Originally Posted by Miss Green

we all know how the american people get when they don't get there own way they invade a country!

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Really! Here's what we do to dumb asses!:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

well fucken north korea has nuclear weapons, yet bush is not going after them. our government plays both sides remember. so they dont want iran to go nuclear yet they'll allow north korea to have them. the problem is that america needs to get back to the principles of the constitution and be neutral and peace offering its military only when it is neccessary and after investigations. always america must be a peaceful nation with its power. it was not made to be use against other countries to suit our interests.

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Like most predators, Bush is a coward an only goes after what poses little threat to him. Iraq, and probably Iran, aren't that big a threat, at least not to us here in the U.S. so Bush sends young American's to die there in order to boost his ego. Noth Korea, however, just might be able to nuke good ol' Crawford Texas so there's no way he'll go after them.

I read on Rense.com that the US actually did a mock war simulation with North Korea, and North Korea won! I know they wouldn't take shit from us, but they are just as crazy as Amerika. Is there any good and decency left in this world at all??

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

I read on Rense.com that the US actually did a mock war simulation with North Korea, and North Korea won!

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So much for the credibility of Rense.com......hilarious post, keep em' comin'!!:thumbsup:

I think it depends on what the goal is and what the definition of "win" is. In any case we couldn't just roll the tanks in and take over in a few days like we did in Iraq. A loss for DPRK would most likley mean the demise of their country so they'd fight back like a cornered animal. They'd probably use everything at their disposal and, unlike Iraq, this animal has much bigger teeth and claws to do it with.

Plus, going back to the definition of "win", you have to consider what the American public considers. The new definition of winning seems to be completely destroying the enemy with only a few hundred losses. People are appalled that we've had 2300+ U.S. casualties over the last three years. What happens when we have this many llosses within thing the first few days of fighting the North Koreans?

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Originally Posted by Fengzi

People are appalled that we've had 2300+ U.S. casualties over the last three years. What happens when we have this many llosses within thing the first few days of fighting the North Koreans?

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Do you happen to remember the first gulf war? 380 Coallition deaths in 100 days....which was the duration of the war. The objective in Iran would be to take out the nuclear sites and the chemical weapon sites. Before that of course would be radar and air defenses.
The very same would hold true to N. Korea but an invasion of N. Korea would never happen without the blessings of China. Japan has it's hands full there!:thumbsup:

Here is a good read.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull

Sounds like a plan!! Tick Tick Tick...

LOL Bush is a coward? and I suppose Clinton was brave?

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Here is a good read.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull

Sounds like a plan!! Tick Tick Tick...

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The only flaw in the plan was the help from European countries. Since Iran is one of their top supplies of bubblin' crude, I wouldn't count on much more than a silent pat on the back.

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Originally Posted by mont974x4

LOL Bush is a coward? and I suppose Clinton was brave?

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Both sides are bitches. Nobody can deny Saddam was a terrible man who slaughtered millions. The WMD thing was dumb as hell I admit but the Dems should back this operation up. Just like the Republicans are bitches for going against Clinton when he stopped Milosavich(spelling???) from killing all those poor people.

I was in the Kosovo Campaign and helped collect warcrimes evidence. There is no doubt that the Balkans missions were necessary. The problem I had with Clinton was his halfassed way of doing these things. (I lost comrades in Somalia) I also didn't believe he was right in giving control of our troops to NATO or the UN. In fact, I don't think any president should do that.

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So what your saying is that Iraq and Iran were part of the U.S. at one time like Poland and Parts of Czechoslovakia were parts of Germany before the Versailles Treaty? Interesting, I didn't even know that we losed two states in the middle east because of an international agreement!

I can really see how these are "equivalent"!!!:thumbsup:

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I guess you're right, the German invasion of Poland was more justifiable the the US invasion od Iraq. Odd, this is not the general tone of your posts.

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Originally Posted by weadboy420

I guess you're right, the German invasion of Poland was more justifiable the the US invasion od Iraq. Odd, this is not the general tone of your posts.

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That is the most ignorant post I have seen all day. I bet you wouldn't say that to a polish jew or their family.:o