John Lennon is a genius

I never could find a way to put my thoughts into words... but he did it...

here it is, the hippie dream

[align=center]Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...

Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...

Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one[/align]

Imagine there's no Yoko
And that i wasnt dead
The bullet had missed me
And got Yoko instead
Imagine there's no Yoko
And i wasnt deaddddd

You might say that i'm a dreamer
But thats impossible when you;re dead
I know i cant be dreaming
with a bullet lodged in my head

Imagine Ringo sober ? :confused:

dai*ma :dance: :dance:
If Yoko was the reason behind the Beatles break up, then why dont we send her to break up the Taliban? :D

Yeah a genius alright , convincing the dickheads of the world to live without possesions while living the millionaire lifestyle, thats smart.
He didn't seem to be in too much of an hurry to share his wealth, and wouldn't you say driving round in a Roller is just a little ostentacious for a supposed hippy.
When will people realise John Lennon was nothing more than an entertainer and not the second coming of Christ.

Psychocat,
if you keep on making so much sense you may have to change your name to sensiblecat. You're making sense to me.

dai*ma:stoned:

he may have been an entertainer, but his ideas and lifestyle made alot more sense than all the shit going on today, and maybe if people had realized that he was actually right, our civilization wouldnt be heading towards global extinction and possibly the end of life as we know it. dont you think its wierd how before there was any type of coast to coast communication or travel, that societies all over the world who alll thought they were the only one developed the same technologies, and all made the same social, economical and agricultural improvements relativly during the same time period. all recognized hemp as the most important crop and gods greatest gift to the earth. anyways, we are a race stuck on a giant rock in the middle of an infinite universe where milliions of other civilizations like us reside, whether you want to believe it or not. we are all stuck here to work together, and so far all weve done is create segregation, which in turn has led to war, and ultimately war leads to absolutely NOTHING, literally. we will probably never see peace in its purest form again, mainly because of governments and organizations that try to hold all of the power. Lennon spoke out about how our lifestyle should have developed, the way it was supposed to be. call me crazy, but if everyone viewed the world through his eyes we would be a much happier and far more advanced race, only problem is Lennon was too late, it seems all hope was lost at the beginning of the 20th century

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Originally Posted by opiuser

I never could find a way to put my thoughts into words... but he did it...

here it is, the hippie dream

[align=center]Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...

Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...

Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one[/align]

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Thats a very good message, but there are way to many ignorant people out in the world for anything like that ever to happen.

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Originally Posted by tblueyes

Thats a very good message, but there are way to many ignorant people out in the world for anything like that ever to happen.

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-True that, it is very unfortunate :(

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Originally Posted by psychocat

Yeah a genius alright , convincing the dickheads of the world to live without possesions while living the millionaire lifestyle, thats smart.
He didn't seem to be in too much of an hurry to share his wealth, and wouldn't you say driving round in a Roller is just a little ostentacious for a supposed hippy.
When will people realise John Lennon was nothing more than an entertainer and not the second coming of Christ.

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true that

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Originally Posted by Marijuanderful

he may have been an entertainer, but his ideas and lifestyle made alot more sense than all the shit going on today, and maybe if people had realized that he was actually right, our civilization wouldnt be heading towards global extinction and possibly the end of life as we know it. dont you think its wierd how before there was any type of coast to coast communication or travel, that societies all over the world who alll thought they were the only one developed the same technologies, and all made the same social, economical and agricultural improvements relativly during the same time period. all recognized hemp as the most important crop and gods greatest gift to the earth. anyways, we are a race stuck on a giant rock in the middle of an infinite universe where milliions of other civilizations like us reside, whether you want to believe it or not. we are all stuck here to work together, and so far all weve done is create segregation, which in turn has led to war, and ultimately war leads to absolutely NOTHING, literally. we will probably never see peace in its purest form again, mainly because of governments and organizations that try to hold all of the power. Lennon spoke out about how our lifestyle should have developed, the way it was supposed to be. call me crazy, but if everyone viewed the world through his eyes we would be a much happier and far more advanced race, only problem is Lennon was too late, it seems all hope was lost at the beginning of the 20th century

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Lifestyle ?????? The man you're talking about wasted more money than most honest hard working folk see in a lifetime, he took decadence to a new level.
He wasn't interested in working together with the likes of you or I, do you think if you had asked him for a job he would just say sure pal here you go now what would you like your salary to be?He was an arrogant musician with a massive ego who was paid to much for too little.Why do so many people not realise the hypocrisy of telling everyone to live a simple life whilst stuffing yourself on room service in a 5 star hotel?

everyone knows that he is dead right?
so it dosent really matter what he did
he just wrote good mmusic then tryed to pass a good message alongfor people to fallow. then he got shot which means people where not fallowing his message.

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Originally Posted by pogmoasal1

everyone knows that he is dead right?
so it dosent really matter what he did
he just wrote good mmusic then tryed to pass a good message alongfor people to fallow. then he got shot which means people where not fallowing his message.

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exactly..

for everyone thats acting pissed because he didnt act EXACTLY as his lyrics were..

your bieng a hypocrite

look at us... we're making out own song on this board - trying to spread knowledge to others about the positiveness about cannabis.

but.

how many of us actually change our ENTIRE life/lifestyle/humanity to spread this word??

NONE OF US.

"Critic's voice â?? take your choice!"

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Originally Posted by psychocat

Lifestyle ?????? The man you're talking about wasted more money than most honest hard working folk see in a lifetime, he took decadence to a new level.
He wasn't interested in working together with the likes of you or I, do you think if you had asked him for a job he would just say sure pal here you go now what would you like your salary to be?He was an arrogant musician with a massive ego who was paid to much for too little.Why do so many people not realise the hypocrisy of telling everyone to live a simple life whilst stuffing yourself on room service in a 5 star hotel?

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i consider myself one of the most peaceful people in the world - i have never gotten into a fight. i do not judge people, and i do not take things personally.

the fact is - you live for YOU - i try to spread peace sure, but i know that if I am peace. i am what i want to be - i cant change what you want to be, what she wants to be ect...

i can try, and do try. but at the end of the day i focus on ME, - selfish? no way.

happy? yes.

john lennon was a huge peace promoter - but did he dedicate his entire life to spreading the word to millions of people that turn a deaf ear? no - and i wouldnt either.

hes a human, not a god, we are humans, and i will continue to look up to him. as a figure who did as much as he felt happy doing.

because i dont care about the rest of the ideas, i care that he was peace, and he was happy with himself for being what he was. and thats why i look up to him.

Amen

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Originally Posted by psychocat

Yeah a genius alright , convincing the dickheads of the world to live without possesions while living the millionaire lifestyle, thats smart.
He didn't seem to be in too much of an hurry to share his wealth, and wouldn't you say driving round in a Roller is just a little ostentacious for a supposed hippy.
When will people realise John Lennon was nothing more than an entertainer and not the second coming of Christ.

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what you dont realise is this... a utopian union between all people is impossible in the world as it is and has been for a long time, because there's too many asshole's and people that like it just how it is. the only way the dream will be real is if everyone wishes for it.

the dreamers understand that and so we do mundane chores and receivie worthless worldly pleasures like everybody else. afterall, we gotta survive to

Peace fine.
But I still find it hypocritical to promote a lifestyle you don't actualy live.

*high fives opiuser*

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Originally Posted by psychocat

Peace fine.
But I still find it hypocritical to promote a lifestyle you don't actualy live.

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I don't see the lyrics of this song being so much about living without possesions as it is about peace. Religion, heaven and hell, possessions, countries, etc. were just obstacles that were in the way of peace. And, as the title of the song suggests, he does realize that this dream is imaginary.

John Lennon did do quite a bit to promote peace in the years just before and after the Beatles break up. He also gave to charity and gave a number of charity concerts. Just because a person beleives in peace and wants to help the poor doesn't mean he should be poor himself.

But you're rigth psychocat, he wasn't the 2nd coming of Christ. He was just a man with an extraordinary talent for writing music that was spreading a message that was consistant with the times.