Its Interesting, that the engine found at the pentagon does not look like it came from an 757 boeing---Do they still think thats an engine from a 757---I guess my eyes are lying to me again...Still no proof that a plane hit the pentagon.....
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Its Interesting, that the engine found at the pentagon does not look like it came from an 757 boeing---Do they still think thats an engine from a 757---I guess my eyes are lying to me again...Still no proof that a plane hit the pentagon.....
duh, planes vaporize...it happens, now shutup, thank you. you just have to accept that physics turns upside down on the days we're 'attacked' by the evil freedom hating 'terrorists'...
steel buildings with a few fires that aren't hit by planes magically collapse perfectly with every signature of a controlled demolition by accident. get it? when other steel buidings can have raging fires on ten floors for 36 hours and not collapse...
and nevermind the drills that take place (oklahoma city, first WTC, 9/11) of the exact same thing happening as it's actually happening even though no one could have ever imagined it happening...
So no1 wants to tackle these pictures, it seems to prove the government conspiracy theory is false-----Or we just gonna let this go down the memory hole, and act like the gummermint knows best, huh----
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all I see is two engines, Hey numbnuts, maybe think that its two different engines made by two different companies...
Sometimes your posts make me feel very ignorant becuse I don't have a clue about jet engines...you are intent on your mission and beliefs I can say that..your consistent. Sometimes its the little things right in front of your face I think..could you give a link that explains in somewhat simple terms about engines? With pics?Quote:
Originally Posted by eg420ne
The main objective to my argument is wheres the wreckage... where do we see any sign of a boeing 757 with its wingspan of 124ft and the massive titatum engines in the photos the pentagon release, or from the news outlets.. so you have a airliner going about 500mph at about a 45 degree angle hitting the pentagon, shreading off the right wing plus MTE and then shreadding of the left wing and MTE without leaving any marks or debris on the pentagon lawn or any imprint of wings and tail on the pentagon facade. from all the pictures and tapes i have seen,I have seen nothing to suggest a airliner hit the pentagon...
You can check out these site to find info on what a boeing 757 engine looks like
http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=101
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...s/q0110c.shtml
http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/boeing757/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_757
http://civil.rolls-royce.com/jet-eng...he-Boeing-757/
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more pictures
http://www.freedomunderground.org/me...tagon.php#Main
not sure if this has been posted already...
Let's tackle this issue. The Towers have been destroyed, people hate America, I saw a plane fly into a tower, video of the first tower, maybe the building was lined with explosives, but, maybe Joe's grandma was planning on blowing it up the same day.
No joe's grandma would of flew the planes a little lower into the towers to have maximum deaths in newyork, and joe's grandma would of aimed dead on the pentagon's anus, instead of directly hitting a part of the pentagon that was under-construction, flying 2 ft from the ground without the engines craping the lovely pentagon lawn...Quote:
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
I'm not surprised that people believe that the government was in on 9/11. The thing that bothers me is that some think that pre-planted bombs were necessary to bring down the WTC towers - and have totally ruled out the possibility that the planes, without (pre-planted) bombs in the buildings, were the reason for their collapse.
There have been a number of professionals who have explained, in detail, how the structuresâ?? steel support beams melted from the intense heat, why there were explosions, etc. - but some people just wonâ??t listen and claim that these theories are not possible.
But you forget, all these professionals are either government employees or paid off by the C.I.A.! The only REAL professionals are personally endorsed by Prisonplanet.com!! :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
So what your saying is that if you were to take lets say a 2006 Dodge Charger and run it into a reinforced brick wall at 500 MPH it should look like the new car off the lot?Quote:
Originally Posted by eg420ne
The plane going at a 45 degree angle slams into the the pentagon nose first then the right wing with MTE hits the building smashing it into a tin can along with the titatum engine then the left side hits the building receiving less of the impact, slice right off(not the whole wing hit the building if it went at a 45 degree angle)and the plane was 2 ft from the ground at 500mph with the massive titatum engines dragging on the ground so it can hit the pentagon at that level it hit...
Lets approach this from another direction.....If a 757 "were" to hit the Pentagon at 500 MPH what is it that we should see that we don't now? How much wreckage would you expect? What size holes in the building would you expect as compared to what happened?
It surely wasn't a conventional missle since it would have exploded on contact and it wasn't a bunker buster because the destruction decreased proportional to distance. Bunker busters have a thick skin with a lesser amount of explosive material. Once the exterior of the bomb weakens due to ripping through material, then it detonates leaving equal destruction in all directions. Compare laying a firecracker on your hand as to holding in a tight grip.
I posted a vidio once of a F-14 hitting a wall for a nuclear facility at 500mph...it turned to dust.
If these planes were solid metal I would be wondering shit myself but in fact they are hollow shells.....layers of reinforced brick walls eventually will win.
Steel is surprisingly vulnerable to heat. Steel gets progressively softer as its heated but there is a sudden increase in plasticity at around 900F "black heat" - just below red heat. Its entirely plausible that the burning fuel raised a section of the steel frame to this temperature and started the collapase.
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
I cannot believe how many of you guys are doubting eg on this. How do you not think there wouldnt be any wreckage? Its a 757 boeing with passsengers, where the fucks there luggage, where the fucks the itty bitty pieces of debres that we should have seen at the pentagon like we saw with the trade centers. Sure the trade centers are much much bigger and had more debres, but Im saying the pentagon definatly would have had plane debres laying around, a whole 757 boeing does not vaporize at 500 mph hitting a building.
I cant remember who said somehting about the dodge, I think it was you psycho but anyway. If you took a dodge charger into a brick wall at 500 mph, it certainly wouldnt vaporize or 'disapear'. Without a doubt there would be debres.
and aluminum planes melt. don't believe me? toss a beverage can info the fireplace or campfire. within minutes it's completely gone...just a tiny lump of metal buried under the ashes. i doubt if they had many fireproof suitcases on the plane either...
LOL....hope ya never try it dude!! Found the video of a similar situation. Of course the pentagon probably wasn't as durable as this wall but you'll get the drift. Have a good one!:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Joel
http://www.break.com/index/concreteplane.html
Im talking about the wings and engine especially from the left side, the wing and engine which would of received less of the impact,,,the plane going at a 45 degree angle slams into the pentagon nose first then the right wing hits the building with its MTE which melting point is 3050 degrees, making itself a tin can then the left wing which if it went at a 45 degree angle(and the plane already inside the building) would not have hit the whole building(it would of just broken off), so there should be very noticeable plane parts around the unfazed pentagon lawn. and if the plane was going in at that angle at 2 ft above the ground, the left side engine should of drag along the ground as well..
The "wing root " is the strongest part of the plane. This is where the wing attaches to the fuselage.
The wing roots would have impacted the wall of the building on either side of this hole.
There is no damage that looks like an airliner hit.. it also would of jumped the height of the generator that was there.
The "plane" was supposedly hugging the ground, knocking over lamp poles, therefore, it could NOT have dove into the Pentagon, so on a level path, the right wing should clearly have hit the second or third floor, not the bottom of the first floor where most of the damage was done, then the left wing should of hit ground if not then at least the engine should of been dragging...
Tail of plane should have hit above the impact hole, but clearly, there was no damage to the area above the hole.
The tail should have hit up to the third, or even fourth floor.
The windows are still intact at this point.
A Boeing 757 is about 20-25 ft wide (fuselage) about 150ft long and over 150ft wing tip to wing tip.
Where is the Plane ? It did not squeeze into that small hole shown. Given a standard 4ft wide window size the opening here is 16 to 18ft. The columns are about 10ft apart (give or take 1-2 inches). So this hole is no more than 20ft wide.
The columns on each side of the hole do NOT seem to be seriously damaged.
This is where the "wing root" would have hit. Probabally the strongest section of the plane.
LOL...Dude, that's cartoon physics!!:dance:
III. Any body passing through solid matter will leave a perforation conforming to its perimeter.
This is one of the more interesting of the cartoon laws. This made me rather puzzeled as to how it would be used in the real world. At first I though about what would happen when a person hit a door. The person would leave a hole which looked excactly like them in the door. I initiall thought of how this could be used for law enforcement. In all banks, all of the doors could be equipted with a mechanizm which would have a button, and after the button is pushed, the door would take 10 to 20 seconds to open. This would make it so that if a person were robbing a bank and running from the poilce, they would have to wait 20 seconds to pass through the doors, while the police could have an access key which would allow the door to quickly open. This way if the person didn't want to wait for the door to open, they would have to run right through it. Thus leaving a 2-D picture of the theif which could be use in co-operation with the survalence cammeras to identify the culprit since you could see if the person fir the silhouette. The next idea would be good for garages since you wouldn't have to worry about the size of the enterance because the garage opening would fit your vehicle exactly.
http://www.mbhs.edu/~ojenkins/Cartoon.html
I see some are fine with the official pentagons conspiracy theory, Who would have thought? So hijacker Hanjour whom never plioted a jet must of been nervous because he missed the pentagon the first time, For some reason they went 270 degrees out of the way at high speed, and performed a very sophisticated maneuver with the skills they had, instead of hitting it straight on, they even cross over to Reagan International air space without anyone intercepting the plane, then heads for the under-construction part of the pentagon, mr hanjour saying his prayers slams into the pentagon leaving no trace of a plane....
still no proof of the pentagons story that a 757 boeing hit the building vanishing into thin air......
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/029.html
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Yeah and we are trying to cover our butts here because we know that the admistration and bush have fucked up big time.And just how long will he keep up his performance.......until the american people and the world like australia realise that he has lied and lied to so many people and some of these people don't take kindly to being lied to.And it's all a sham so bush can go to his war and now he is trying to make excuses up to invade iran so it's just bullshit and he needs to be gone and america needs a decent lawyer that isn't going to through america down the tubes.:)
Bush is making the excuses to go to war? What about Chirac more/less threatening the use of nukes on Iran?: what about Israel threatening a military strike?
HELL NO!!! Blame it on Bush and the U.S.! Great post dear!!!:thumbsup:
I'm kinda curious what the motive was for the government to blow up the pentagon. I guess maybe the planes hitting the WTC weren't a good enough excuse. 2300 Americans are dead, 15,000 wounded, a half a trillion dollars (that's 500,000 million) dollars spent, all in a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. Ignore that, obsess about imaginary missile instead, but know that that is exactly what GW wants you to do.
Yeah ah der what planet are you from can't you see that he is making excuses just like he made excuses for Iraq.And arn't you guys friends with israel anyway?:what: :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Fuck Yea I support Israel. The whole world is gonna drop a hammer on Iran, not just us. The Great new leader of Germany is leading the way.
Yah were friends with Israel and ah der the president of Iran is a nutjob. Tell me, could an ICBM launched from Iran reach Kangaroo country? It could hit Berlin or Paris. Why should the U.S. give a fuck.....lets see how many of ya can glow in the dark before ya come a cryin' for help....AS ALWAYS!! :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Green