Which of these three do you think are harder/stronger.
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Which of these three do you think are harder/stronger.
wtf Oxy is the strongest.. just do research.
oxys the strongest by far. this was a stupid thread
Oxy, no contest. Codeine is fairly weak. I've never had vic (hydrocodone), but I hear it's similar.
ive had both oxy and hydro,
i love them both.
Codiene is weak........had dyhydrocodine tablets once...dont know the american equivelent. Strong but not a pleasent feeling....to much nausea
hydrocodone is the strongest in my opinion, I just had how it fucking upsets my stomach everytime.
anyone ever try dilaudid or demorol?
idk, but where is Morphine on the scale of weak to strong?
Oxycodone is considered to be approx. 1.5 times as potent as morphine in terms of analgestic effect. I believe that oxycodone also has a higher oral bioavailability than morphine but this does not conclude that the effects of oxycodone are better than morphines, that is all subjective.
Where else would it be? Morphine is the 2nd strongest opiate(at least to my knowledge), diamorphine (a.k.a heroin) is the strongest.Quote:
Originally Posted by paperlunatic
Morphine is the strongest opiate by definition, as the most potent alkaloid present in opium. Once you start altering or adding to the chemical structure you've no longer got an opiate but an opioid. That said, heroin is a semi-synthetic opioid and is more potent because the two acetyl groups allow the molecule to more easily penetrate the blood brain barrier.
The fun doesn't stop there though, there a number of opioids far more potent than heroin.
To give you a general idea they are as follows:
Heroin - roughly twice as potent as morphine.
Methadone - Said to be 3 times as potent (oral) as morphine, also has a much longer half life.
Hydromorphone - At least 5 times as potent as morphine.
Oxymorphone - about 8-9 times more potent than morphine.
---------Here we go from semi to totally synthetic----------
Fentanyl - 80 times more potent than morphine.
Sufentanil - approx. 800 times more potent than morphine, 10 times more than fentanyl.
Carfentanyl - A whopping 10,000 times more potent than morphine.
There are more opioids of course, they vary not only in potency but also duration (some lasting only several minutes), cardiovascular and respiratory affects.
nullific your the only person on this site who dosent piss me off when they talk about opiates... your the only one who knows their shit.. everyone else says the dumbest things ive ever heard.. hydrocodone stronger then oxy. hahahahahha what an idiot.
no fuckin way theres one 10 000 times morphine??? would you just drift off a die it would be so damn strong.
I've only had perks... which has a low ammount of hydrocodone
actually percocet is oxycodone.. but it has acetominophen in it too..
Vics arent as strong as oxy but produce just as much pleasure with some moderate differences, every I know says oxy is more of a get up n do with more euphoria, as hydrocodone is lay back, possible helps you enjoy things much more than normal, its not as euphoric but is still a mood-lifter and eventually euphoria is noticed (like enjoying boring things, I love playin hack n slash games or old game boy games on vics), a warm feeling is noticeable as oxy is said to be in pro terms "colder" as most drug effects produce flucsuating (incorrect spelling), an feeling of getting unnaturally warmer or colder like clammy hands n cold feet. This is what I heard from a group of people about size of 10, I asked one dood and asked what that dood said to another individual and they related almost exactly.
Oxycodone is the strongest though but if you wanted the effects I gave a good example of them, though I never done oxy I know people who have and I myself have a hydrocodone prescription thats been prescribed to me for years and will be probably forever since my surgery on my neck isnt healing properly and im diabetic. I hate tolerance I sometimes have to try n tough it out when the opiates dont hit me as hard very very painfull.