My Best Friend is going to do acid :(

My best friend of 17 years is going to do it VERY soon. Within a week or so.

He is 18 and only drugs he's ever done were weed, alcohal, nicotine, and some painkillers that he got when he had surgery. I really don't want him to do it.

He said he'll be taking two hits. He is 5'9'' and weighs 130 lbs.. is that safe? He will be taking it with another friend (2 hits each) and won't have a sitter. They have plans to go to the beach, movies and laser tag and maybe a game lan center. His friend will be driving while on the acid...

That doesn't sound safe at all... :(

Tell your retard (no offense) of a freind to step back and look at things for a second. Lysergic Acid-D is a complex chemical that alters the frequency of the beta and alpha waves in your brain, you are tapping into a completely different form of existence, of reality... Two hits for a first timer might SERIOUSLY bug him out... he needs to 1) Think about lowering the dose for his first time 2) Wtf I can't even beleive I am saying this but it is absolutely neccesary for him to have a sitter and 3) cut the ingnission lines on his car or else his dumb ass will probably end up rolling off a cliff. Glad I could help :thumbsup:

Acid is good for you.

Driving while inexperienced on LSD is amazingly retarded. I say, let them go for it because if they lack the intelligence not to drive now, they will only eventually kill themselves from stupidity so why waste time? Lets just get to the bleeding point mwahaha

Jk. Don't let em drive though. Cars are far more dangerous than LSD.

Let Social Darwinism do all the work.

i took 2 hits my first time and thought i could handle three without completely buggin.

with 2 hits, you trip, but you still can maintain a sense of normality in your body.

dont be a buzzkill, let him do the hits, if youre a buzzkill to him, he might have a bad trip.

im 135lbs and took 2 hits just fine. took them at 7 and fell asleep around 2 am.

as far as a sitter, id rather hang with people who were tripping as opposed to someone sober.

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Originally Posted by Dr Seuss

My best friend of 17 years is going to do it VERY soon. Within a week or so. He is 18 and only drugs he's ever done were weed, alcohal, nicotine, and some painkillers that he got when he had surgery. I really don't want him to do it. He said he'll be taking two hits. He is 5'9'' and weighs 130 lbs.. is that safe? He will be taking it with another friend (2 hits each) and won't have a sitter. They have plans to go to the beach, movies and laser tag and maybe a game lan center. His friend will be driving while on the acid...That doesn't sound safe at all... :(

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I was not aware that "hits" have standardized dosages. Please tell us more so that we'll know how much is in each "hit". NOT!

Your friends should not take it until they grow up and behave responsibly.

If hes determined to do it, best thing you can do is tell him you're alright with it, so thats one less bad thing on his mind.

yeah turn that frown upside down..

you do acid with him!

Seriously, the danger here is his friend driving ... and if he's EVER planning on having kids, he shouldn't do acid until he's already had them. The shit never does leave your system.

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Originally Posted by notrightquite

Seriously, the danger here is his friend driving ... and if he's EVER planning on having kids, he shouldn't do acid until he's already had them. The shit never does leave your system.

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That's an urban myth. I'm not sure about how long it takes but something like 80 % of it is excreted within 2 hours or something like that. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_myth1.shtml

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Originally Posted by notrightquite

and if he's EVER planning on having kids, he shouldn't do acid until he's already had them. The shit never does leave your system.

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stop spreadin' that bullshit man

we try to keep the forums clear of that nonsense

research your facts before you say stuff like that

yea theres some shit in this thread, my first acid trip i started out on 3 blots, I was blown away but able to maintain, and all the times i only do 1 hit i dont even feel it. Tell him to do acid its a wonderful drug, first time i tried it i was 16 and it made me a better person

yeah, acid is beautiful, and he will have a good time. but driving is a terrible idea. although last time i did it, i took one tab and tripped balls. i did a tab the week before and didnt trip nearly as hard, so i guess the one had more on it.

Ok this was written by a dude named MplsGFunkCouple very well written and there is nothing unaccurate about it to my knowledge, this is basically all the info you need to know on acid


So, rather then go through topics and find the people that remind me of everyone I went to high school with, (the people that don't bother to do any research of their own, believe everything they hear, and spew from the mouth the very stuff that a crew of people gathered together under the theme of a group devoted to LSD should be trying to prevent), I just decided to post some stuff here.

If (when) I miss stuff, I'll post it later in the thread. Feel free to ask questions. I don't know anywhere near as much as I'd like to, but I feel I have a pretty good understanding of all things psychedelic, and if you're not gonna share it, why learn it?

In the type of random, unorganized order that my head works in, here's some stuff. Anything I share, to the *very*best of my knowledge is factual (unless its obviously an opinion of some sort, however, should anybody *know* that I have posted a mistake, I'd love to be corrected. Its not about knowing it all. It's about continuing education. Please just be polite. With that said, I will tell you I do know most of this to be 100% true, no doubts. Everything else, it would have taken a conspiracy to keep me wrong about. I have literally spent a very large percentage of my life devoted to the research and understanding of psychedelics.

1) You don't know anybody, nor do your parents, or your uncle, or this one old guy, or anybody else for that matter, that ate a sheet of acid, put a sheet of acid on his back in a hot closet, or took a single hit of "the brown acid", and thought he turned into an orange. This non-existent person is not currently in a loonie bin, and still thinks he is an orange to this day, nor did he "roll away" because he can only act like an orange to this day. I don't know what it is, but all across Amreica, this myth seems to be the first one kids here when they learn about acid. Combine that with that fact that its called "acid" and DARE tells you oodles of lies about LSD, and that makes for quite the scared adolescent when it comes to dropping acid the first time.

2) Acid does not go to your back. They don't give you a spinal tap to check for it. IT doesn't fuck your back up, and lastly if you eat the spine of somebody who has taken a lot of acid, you will not trip balls. LSD is tracable in much, much simpler tests then that, and even if it wasn't, that is n ot how they would do it, as your back has little to do with psychedelics that differs from your back's reaction to any other substance you put in your body. The test it can be found in is a simple test of a strand of your hair. Every drug you have taken recently is found in the proteins and DNA in every strand of hair in your head, and if somebody wanted to test you they already could have and you'd never know it. Nut this shouldn't scare you at all. The tests are not standard, not used by *most* court systems, and very expensive so your parents aren't likely going to shell out several hundred dollars or more to get your hair tested when a piss test will likely suffice, in their eyes.

3) The "standard" beginning dose of LSD is 90-110 Micrograms. A microgram is 1/1,000,000th of a gram. What does this mean? This means that a packet of sugar, generally one gram in weight, would have to be divided into 10,000 doses if it were LSD and not sugar. 1 sugar packet of crystal LSD would lay 100 decent-strength standard sized "sheets" as its sold when discussing blotter acid.

4) People use terminology like double and tripled "dipped" in order to help sell a quality product. Certainly, there are different strengths of dose on paper, or diluted into liquid, but odds are good that by the time you're buying a ten strip or a sheet, or even more then that, the person selling it doesn't really have a clue how it was laid, or how much is on it. People with much knowledge and experience can generally take on ane estimate the amount on the paper, but the difference between 90 mcg and 130 mcg is going to be very noticable, so the implications of something being double dipped is a lovely thought, and if the acid is good, who gives a hit either way, right? But as a rule, very little dose I have heard of or have run into is laid in exponential amounts. IE: 100 mcg, 200 mcg, 300 mcg...... Although there have been some "famous" lays of good L (Fly in the ointment/exotic egg for example, also the Alex Grey Purple Jesus blotter, and the original Alice in Wonderland, as well as the red alice print) that the consensus is that each hit was somewhere between 300-450 mcg per. Certain lays of "acid" are meant to be strong enough to give you an experience like no other. You hear about people eating 5, 10, even 20 hits of acid at a time sometimes, and this is indeed possible, but there are two things I'll guarantee: Those people likely had a built up tolerance to it and could take more with less effects, and also, that when said person ate 20 hits, it wasn't dose that was 400 mcg a hit.

5) Never confuse mcg with mg. A milligram of LSD is the equivalent of a ten-strip. It is one of the few chemicals discussed in micrograms, and you won't often hear it mentioned. Should you ever find yourself in a spot that knowing the difference between the too is important though, you'll probably be totally fucking glad you knew that.

6) There is not predetermined "number of hits" of acid to take before you are legally insane. Insanity is always diagnosed, and never automatic because a person wanted to take an illegal substance.

7) (This one, I'm ashamed to even refute, but I swear to you this girl tried to convince me of it one day. She picked the wrong person to spew utter bullshit too about why acid is bad): Just for the record, it does not burn holes in your brain when you take it.

8) Much like a cat's purr, your appendix, and Einsten's seemingly alien knowledge in mathematics, scientists do not know exactly how or why the hallucinations you get when you take a psychedelic drug happens. There are theories, but its something personal to each individual, and can't exactly be studied, especially not while its classified as schedule 1 in the US.

9) If LSD hasn't actually changed your life for the better, then you haven't tripped hard enough. Also, very similar to this is: Bad trips, truly bad ones, and you'll know one when you have one, (lost ability to reason or speak, ego-death without understanding, sheer, utter regret that you took acid that night) are very, very often the very trip you needed to have. The irony is most of the time, if you're smart enough to learn on your own, you'll realize after you have had a night's sleep, if you can remember your bad trip, you realize it might have been the best thing that ever happened to you. Sometimes not. The uniquenss of the psychedelic experience is that its different for each person, every time.

10) Finally, my favorite: LSD, aside from its potential to aggravate or catalyze pre-existing mental health problems (which already existed but could have been dormant or would have taken a while longer to come to fruition, but were there already) causes absolutely no known long term bad physical side effects. It does NOT cause anything at all known or suspected even in moderate to heavy users later in life. This fact scares the DEA and the government in general, so you can expect a continued barrage of scare tactics on the part of police and higher ups for as long as they are illegal. Scare tactics like spreading rumours about brown governement acid, a kid who thinks he is an orange, people jumping out of windows because they think they can fly, etc etc... for many years to come.

My first acid trip was at school... not fun at all hahaha

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Originally Posted by LvT

My first acid trip was at school... not fun at all hahaha

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haha! thats awesome, i never really did any drugs at school, occasionally id take some pills or get high before class, i cant stand not knowing whats goin on or else i fall behind and do bad heh

lol i get high all the time at lunch, and i have a gpa of 3.8 :)

I can do other drugs but i will never do lsd again at school... I think it was the worse moment of my life :(

the first time i did acid was 4 drops out of an eye dropper onto a sugar cube. i tripped hard but after that it doesnt take as much acid for me to trip fairly hard.
i used to put 2 drops on every stick of gum in a package and do it at school. i had a 45 minute study hall at the end of the day so i would take it then and then walk home tripping my balls off.
one day someone found my gum and had a couple pieces at the beginning of the day they were like :confused: :eek:

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Originally Posted by LvT

I can do other drugs but i will never do lsd again at school... I think it was the worse moment of my life :(

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Did you get caught?

I know a dude that shot up heroin in the bathroom of highschool, fuckin moron

I convinced him to get a sitter. He is also only going to do 1 hit, wait an hour and see how he is tripping and maybe take another.

I take painkillers before school sometimes. I have darvocet prescription since I broke my wrist. >_<

LSD is one of the greatest things i have ever been lucky enough to experience.

Driving isnt the best idea, but hes gonna do what hes gonna do. Live and let live bro.

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Originally Posted by Dr Seuss

I convinced him to get a sitter. He is also only going to do 1 hit, wait an hour and see how he is tripping and maybe take another.

I take painkillers before school sometimes. I have darvocet prescription since I broke my wrist. >_<

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are you saying that you abuse painkillers but are against acid? In my opinion pain meds are worse than acid, LSD may be more powerful but some people take pain meds way to far.

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Originally Posted by bedake

Did you get caught?

I know a dude that shot up heroin in the bathroom of highschool, fuckin moron

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No ive been lucky ^^...

But there were too much peoples to have a good time so I ran away!

:D

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Originally Posted by Dr Seuss

I convinced him to get a sitter. He is also only going to do 1 hit, wait an hour and see how he is tripping and maybe take another.

I take painkillers before school sometimes. I have darvocet prescription since I broke my wrist. >_<

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As I understand, the effects can take anywhere from 1-4 Hours to take hold. so I don't know if that's the best idea.

i keep looking at this thread -

Best friend is gonna do acid :(

and i always think... i wish i was that best friend

or the title should be re-named to

MY BEST FRIEND GETS TO DO ACID!!.. but theres not enough for me :(

effects take up to an hour to kick in most of the time, last time i tripped it was only like half an hour. and yeah, i wish i was your best friend too so i oculd trip.

I recall one day back in my junior year I had four pieces of gum in my cold backpack, each with ten hits of some of the cleanest feeling liquid I have ever had the pleasure of consuming in a hypothetical world. :D

A friend (who had never done anything illegal in his life) decides that I owe him two pieces of gum from earlier that morning while getting a notebook out, so he ganks them.

Needless to say my friend was very confused from noon on out. Never once flipped, just enjoyed the crap out of it.

But 20 hits for a first time seems insane.

It's all about the levelheadedness of the person you're dealing with. Unless he's rich or has a sorry person selling to him, I really doubt he will have any physical setbacks. A two-hit trip (if the hits are decent) will be something most definitely unreal. Easily goes out of hand.

Truthfully, I think 100ug is too great an estimate for one hit's dosage. When Hoffmann speaks of the ampoules of LSD they distributed from Sandoz, many reports spoke of trips that were very intense and extreme. Now that's just one hit?

A friend of Hoffmann's tried a measured 60ug. I trust these scientific guys to measure correctly, and the report this guy gives seems like what we would describe as a '2-3 hit' trip.

Anyhow, besides the point. If your friend can be responsible about things and is not one to muck things up, don't worry. The painkillers are worse for him to tell you the truth.

But driving your first time isn't smart. While I can easily drive under just about any psychedelic situation, some people don't have the nerve to.

Might need a DD.

--mic