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Does anyone have any exact info on how this is done. I was watching the urban grower and i saw what it did to his plants and its crazy. I dono if his results are just because of this technique but if it is it might be a good thing to do to my plants when i start growing. Thanks for the info :D :D :D
If by "lollipopping" you mean to make your buds into fat round ones, the techniqu is simple -- you clip the center out of a bud as soon as there's a center to clip. It results in the end of the branch going totally nutz with leafy and bud production. In my opinion it results in buds that have no significantly greater THC content, and a much greater proportion of leafy matter. It's not bad if you're gonna run it thru an extractor and pull the goodness from the vegetation, but it makes for a 2nd-rate smoke if you cure it and use it like bag-weed. For my gardening energy, I prefer more branches with normal buds per end than big, fat frostless globs that smoke like sun leaves.
But, I invite disagreement on the topic. It's highly subjective, and probably more or less successful, depending on the strain you've chosen to experiment with. I encourage you to "lollipop" a few buds -- not the whole plant -- and judge for yourself. The worst you will come out with is more volume with less octane . . .
You completely got the wrong idea. Lollipopping is when people flower the plant early and the main stem begins to stretch as apposed to more growth.Quote:
Originally Posted by rodekyll
In the Urban Grower video he hints at removing the bottom branches as lollipopping. I remember trying to Google the term after I watched but I never came up with a grow-site that mentioned it.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Your all wrong,
It's when you cut the lower foot of branches off and leave a big fat lollypop shaped plant.I think the idea is to get a bigger plant but using 1000 watt lights only penetrates 3 feet so the bottom foot is cut and the top 3 feet are bigger and fatter buds then a 3 foot plant.Get it?
J Dog has it right ..... :smokin:
ah that sound good
i have heard of this b4 but not called lollypoping just in a general grow guide.
Lemonboy has it right EDIT: and J Dog... its right when you cut the lower branches off... there a a couple of reasons of doing this...
- instead of the plant working on the lower bud production on parts (bottom)the light barley reaches anyways, the plant can focus on the main and central bud formation and packing some heat in some instances
#2 - Healthier envirement to prevent mold/fungus/and spider mites... put a fan under the "open" area now, and will drastically help prevent mold...
#3 -- dont the plant branching out as much
However some stranis take this harsh and actually reduces the amount of grams you can achieve
forgot to mentrion:::
"forcing the center cola by pruning back the branches to
the first node.Doing that should have forced her energys
towards one solid main cola...."
"just take the lower 1/3 growth off that includes stems,
shoots, and leafs..."
Darn, so that's what they call it. Hell, I've always done it. Just seemed logical to me. I have grown some w/o trimming and you have a bunch of small airy buds that don't develope enough to make it worth the time in manicauring.
I learned this technique from a guy on the old AN forum, and he takes it a step farther than just 1/3. 2 days before flipping trim everything except the very top shoot. It is hard to do it the first time as it seems you have destroyed your plants, but trust me when I say that it works out in the end. If you have 1000 watt lights it is not as beneficial as the light penetrates deeper. I run 600 watts and it works out quite nicely. Very little fluffy buds, and big fat main colas. Really reduces the amount of trimming you have to do in the end.
Google 'pistilwhipt' for more discussion of this technique. The way I do it is to remove all scraggly crappy weak spindly low branches right before flowering. That leaves all the fan leaves that are getting good light, and from 1-5 good strong main stems. Allow about 2-4 tops per square foot to keep the canopy continuous.
I do the same thing stinky, but then I keep up with removing any shoots/buds that start growing over the course of flowering. It doesn't seem to stress the plants to any negative results and it "seems" like the top buds are denser than when I just let the lower growth continue.
I too saw the urban grower lollipop video so I thought I'd try it. I'm about 50 days into flowering seeing some fat buds on the lollipopped plants but not as much resin production on those I lollipopped. The urban grower said when they reach 24 in. cut off the bottom branchs put them in tomato cages and trigger the flowering stage. some of the buds are bigger and some didn't seem to make much difference so I'd say it depends on the strain, as alot of growing techniques might work better than others with a specific strain... jus' my 2 cents
Why not just cut your clones and leave them long w/o bottom Veg and flower in just a few days? That wuld be somewhat the same SOG?
im surprised not many grow lollipop buds. ill post some pics when i harvest. i got em all on my cam. i like doing this with white widow. you cut off about 2/3 of the bottom branches. LEAVE FAN LEAFS PEOPLE.
If you dont cut the fan leaves they will grow bigger and most likely wont stunt the plant. Weed plants hold alot of energy in the fan leafs so cutting them all off isnt a good idea. keep anything on the plant that looks like it will combine with the cola bud. heres some of my early pics.
First pic is a pic of my plant im lollipopping. i do this alot and turns out great everytime.
Second pic is some of my plants after spraying them with neem oil since i had spider mites. neem oil/dishSoap is the best shit to use in my opionion.
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What video was the that had it?
just my humble opinion ----on this 2 1/2 year old thread ----as practiced in my SOG any branches that might grow past the edge of my pots and overlap its neighbor are removed. all fans are left until brown and crispy.% of lower material removed varies with strain/pheno and can range from 0% to 50%. harvested bud maybe spear shaped to round[lollipop] again depending on strain/pheno.BTW i use 5.5 inch square pots , 24 of them per 400watt HPS in a 3'X2' area .lollipoping has no effect on resin production nor does it make the buds leafy
i only do branch removal during the stretch phase and only small amounts per day,get to know your plant and remove unwanted growth as soon as it appears.removing large amounts of growth at one time will stress the plant.