LSD MYTH! help please.

I was talking to one of my freinds and he said his sister is knowlegdable with drugs and she said acid burns a hole in your brain I was like pssshh Ive never heard that. so i didnt belive it then i was talking to a totally different friend the next day and he said thats exactly what he's heard B4 too? I mean, i know that after I first did robo I felt stupid as hell for like a week and Im never doing that again, but do any of you acid users get "dumb" days after a trip? I want to do acid but I need this myth to be solved first.

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Originally Posted by mikeo14

I was talking to one of my freinds and he said his sister is knowlegdable with drugs and she said acid burns a hole in your brain I was like pssshh Ive never heard that. so i didnt belive it then i was talking to a totally different friend the next day and he said thats exactly what he's heard B4 too? I mean, i know that after I first did robo I felt stupid as hell for like a week and Im never doing that again, but do any of you acid users get "dumb" days after a trip? I want to do acid but I need this myth to be solved first.

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ACID DOES NOT BURN A HOLE IN YOU BRAIN. ACID HARMS YOU LESS THAN POT HARMS YOUR LUNGS, sorry for caps but had to do it man, unless you take an absurd amount of acid it wont hurt you, and even then its only psychological

If you want to do acid man do it, its a great experience, nothing else is in the world is comparable to pschedelic drugs of this level drugs like shrooms DMT, LSD, and all that gibberish are can all be wonderful experiences

If you plan on taking LSD read this guide of sorts, it will probably clear some things up for you.

Ok this was written by a dude named MplsGFunkCouple very well written and there is nothing unaccurate about it to my knowledge, this is basically all the info you need to know on acid


So, rather then go through topics and find the people that remind me of everyone I went to high school with, (the people that don't bother to do any research of their own, believe everything they hear, and spew from the mouth the very stuff that a crew of people gathered together under the theme of a group devoted to LSD should be trying to prevent), I just decided to post some stuff here.

If (when) I miss stuff, I'll post it later in the thread. Feel free to ask questions. I don't know anywhere near as much as I'd like to, but I feel I have a pretty good understanding of all things psychedelic, and if you're not gonna share it, why learn it?

In the type of random, unorganized order that my head works in, here's some stuff. Anything I share, to the *very*best of my knowledge is factual (unless its obviously an opinion of some sort, however, should anybody *know* that I have posted a mistake, I'd love to be corrected. Its not about knowing it all. It's about continuing education. Please just be polite. With that said, I will tell you I do know most of this to be 100% true, no doubts. Everything else, it would have taken a conspiracy to keep me wrong about. I have literally spent a very large percentage of my life devoted to the research and understanding of psychedelics.

1) You don't know anybody, nor do your parents, or your uncle, or this one old guy, or anybody else for that matter, that ate a sheet of acid, put a sheet of acid on his back in a hot closet, or took a single hit of "the brown acid", and thought he turned into an orange. This non-existent person is not currently in a loonie bin, and still thinks he is an orange to this day, nor did he "roll away" because he can only act like an orange to this day. I don't know what it is, but all across Amreica, this myth seems to be the first one kids here when they learn about acid. Combine that with that fact that its called "acid" and DARE tells you oodles of lies about LSD, and that makes for quite the scared adolescent when it comes to dropping acid the first time.

2) Acid does not go to your back. They don't give you a spinal tap to check for it. IT doesn't fuck your back up, and lastly if you eat the spine of somebody who has taken a lot of acid, you will not trip balls. LSD is tracable in much, much simpler tests then that, and even if it wasn't, that is n ot how they would do it, as your back has little to do with psychedelics that differs from your back's reaction to any other substance you put in your body. The test it can be found in is a simple test of a strand of your hair. Every drug you have taken recently is found in the proteins and DNA in every strand of hair in your head, and if somebody wanted to test you they already could have and you'd never know it. Nut this shouldn't scare you at all. The tests are not standard, not used by *most* court systems, and very expensive so your parents aren't likely going to shell out several hundred dollars or more to get your hair tested when a piss test will likely suffice, in their eyes.

3) The "standard" beginning dose of LSD is 90-110 Micrograms. A microgram is 1/1,000,000th of a gram. What does this mean? This means that a packet of sugar, generally one gram in weight, would have to be divided into 10,000 doses if it were LSD and not sugar. 1 sugar packet of crystal LSD would lay 100 decent-strength standard sized "sheets" as its sold when discussing blotter acid.

4) People use terminology like double and tripled "dipped" in order to help sell a quality product. Certainly, there are different strengths of dose on paper, or diluted into liquid, but odds are good that by the time you're buying a ten strip or a sheet, or even more then that, the person selling it doesn't really have a clue how it was laid, or how much is on it. People with much knowledge and experience can generally take on ane estimate the amount on the paper, but the difference between 90 mcg and 130 mcg is going to be very noticable, so the implications of something being double dipped is a lovely thought, and if the acid is good, who gives a hit either way, right? But as a rule, very little dose I have heard of or have run into is laid in exponential amounts. IE: 100 mcg, 200 mcg, 300 mcg...... Although there have been some "famous" lays of good L (Fly in the ointment/exotic egg for example, also the Alex Grey Purple Jesus blotter, and the original Alice in Wonderland, as well as the red alice print) that the consensus is that each hit was somewhere between 300-450 mcg per. Certain lays of "acid" are meant to be strong enough to give you an experience like no other. You hear about people eating 5, 10, even 20 hits of acid at a time sometimes, and this is indeed possible, but there are two things I'll guarantee: Those people likely had a built up tolerance to it and could take more with less effects, and also, that when said person ate 20 hits, it wasn't dose that was 400 mcg a hit.

5) Never confuse mcg with mg. A milligram of LSD is the equivalent of a ten-strip. It is one of the few chemicals discussed in micrograms, and you won't often hear it mentioned. Should you ever find yourself in a spot that knowing the difference between the too is important though, you'll probably be totally fucking glad you knew that.

6) There is not predetermined "number of hits" of acid to take before you are legally insane. Insanity is always diagnosed, and never automatic because a person wanted to take an illegal substance.

7) (This one, I'm ashamed to even refute, but I swear to you this girl tried to convince me of it one day. She picked the wrong person to spew utter bullshit too about why acid is bad): Just for the record, it does not burn holes in your brain when you take it.

8) Much like a cat's purr, your appendix, and Einsten's seemingly alien knowledge in mathematics, scientists do not know exactly how or why the hallucinations you get when you take a psychedelic drug happens. There are theories, but its something personal to each individual, and can't exactly be studied, especially not while its classified as schedule 1 in the US.

9) If LSD hasn't actually changed your life for the better, then you haven't tripped hard enough. Also, very similar to this is: Bad trips, truly bad ones, and you'll know one when you have one, (lost ability to reason or speak, ego-death without understanding, sheer, utter regret that you took acid that night) are very, very often the very trip you needed to have. The irony is most of the time, if you're smart enough to learn on your own, you'll realize after you have had a night's sleep, if you can remember your bad trip, you realize it might have been the best thing that ever happened to you. Sometimes not. The uniquenss of the psychedelic experience is that its different for each person, every time.

10) Finally, my favorite: LSD, aside from its potential to aggravate or catalyze pre-existing mental health problems (which already existed but could have been dormant or would have taken a while longer to come to fruition, but were there already) causes absolutely no known long term bad physical side effects. It does NOT cause anything at all known or suspected even in moderate to heavy users later in life. This fact scares the DEA and the government in general, so you can expect a continued barrage of scare tactics on the part of police and higher ups for as long as they are illegal. Scare tactics like spreading rumours about brown governement acid, a kid who thinks he is an orange, people jumping out of windows because they think they can fly, etc etc... for many years to come.

I read that entire guide, thx man. I hope I can end up getting acid after all. Im here in texas and i dont think much acid is circulated around here lot of meth though ( which i will never ever do) i want to trip balls. :)

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Originally Posted by mikeo14

I read that entire guide, thx man. I hope I can end up getting acid after all. Im here in texas and i dont think much acid is circulated around here lot of meth though ( which i will never ever do) i want to trip balls. :)

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if your in texas, i could probably find shrooms, and lots of mescaline and peyote neither mescaline or peyote is ever around where i live, ohio, too far for it to transfer

You could always get some legal mescal, although it's not as potent as peyote, it does the trick.

legal mescaline? what the hell i want some, is it only a texas thing?

no man peruvian torch and san pedro cactus has mesaline check it out http://www.mindzeyecreations.com/catalog

I've had bad experiences with San Pedro. Not in a psychedelic way, but it just takes so much to be effective, and even then wasn't that potent. I wholehartedly recommend the powder though, works like a charm.

fear and loathing in las vegas kinda dissuades me to try mescaline..

but its just a movie

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Originally Posted by RastaKaze

no man peruvian torch and san pedro cactus has mesaline check it out http://www.mindzeyecreations.com/catalog

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shit dude i didnt think they shipped it to US, or it had to go through a complex proccess of extraction or somethin


What do you suggesT?

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Originally Posted by justinsane

fear and loathing in las vegas kinda dissuades me to try mescaline..

but its just a movie

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In my oh so humble opinion, peyote is by far the greatest tripping device I've ever taken. Instead of the typical LSD "tracers" and other such visual distortions, peyote literally provides visions, and really transports you to a completely different realm of your psyche. Unlike most hallucinogens, I've rarely heard people having bad trips on peyote, there are some characterized by negative images, but even that helps you to grow as a person. If you can find some (it's pretty rare) it's amazing.

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Originally Posted by bedake

shit dude i didnt think they shipped it to US, or it had to go through a complex proccess of extraction or somethin


What do you suggesT?

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To the US, hell they ship it FROM the US. Most of the places on the net that sell salvia and things like that have it. You don't need to do an extraction, though it would save you from choking down a bunch of nasty cactus goop.

buy it from the Mindzeyecreations link for way cheaper than you can get it elswhere. he is very fast on shipping and is a cool guy . for me just 10 grams of the Peruvian Torch powder led to a good time :-).

uhm wheres the peyote on that site? i thought peruvian torch was something else, never done this before

There's no peyote, but the active ingredient of peyote is mescaline, and there are mescaline containing plants on the site.

peruvian torch?

what should i buy, 250 grams peruvian torch cactus powder, or 125 of the incense, whats the differense between cactus powder and incense?

Man if your stupid enough to think u can fly on hallicunaigens then u deserve to die

later

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Originally Posted by Not Enough Herb

Man if your stupid enough to think u can fly on hallicunaigens then u deserve to die

later

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have you ever taken alot of acid? like 15 hits? when your tripping that bad anything is possible, thats why you have someone sober watch you

I had sythentic mescaline once or twice, but then again it could have been LSD. The effects were extremely similar to what I've read about peyote.

The only reason I wouldn't take peyote is the possiblity of getting sick. I've sustained cellular, and other physical damage, to my small intestine due to a condition that I have, and cannot afford the risk of doing any more harm. I asked one guy that used to post here, a Native American, how he felt about the "vomiting" factor that some people have with peyote, and he claims that it "cleans you out", and is good for you. That may be true for SOME people, but if something might make me sick, I don't take it. I never got sick from acid, or synthetic psylosybin, mescaline, etc. I'll probably try mushooms some day, and see if they agree with me. I have not had any of the psychedelics for decades, anyway - only cannabis (and none of that for a while now, either, lol).

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Originally Posted by justinsane

fear and loathing in las vegas kinda dissuades me to try mescaline..

but its just a movie

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Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas made me want to try mescaline.

...and then I did...

...and it was good :pimp:

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Originally Posted by mikeo14

I was talking to one of my freinds and he said his sister is knowlegdable with drugs and she said acid burns a hole in your brain I was like pssshh Ive never heard that. so i didnt belive it then i was talking to a totally different friend the next day and he said thats exactly what he's heard B4 too? I mean, i know that after I first did robo I felt stupid as hell for like a week and Im never doing that again, but do any of you acid users get "dumb" days after a trip? I want to do acid but I need this myth to be solved first.

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complete horseshit:mad:

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Originally Posted by justinsane

fear and loathing in las vegas kinda dissuades me to try mescaline..

but its just a movie

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hey man you're an experienced dude. mescal is... well it opens up your eyes to say the least.

Acid just isn't available in my area, not that I know of at least. Bedake is right on though, I remember my grade school health teacher telling the class that "acid stays in your body forever".
A friend of mine did San Pedro, he got a foot of cactus and used a method similar to this one that ended with a vile tasting green liquid drunk over a couple hours.

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Originally Posted by Nullific

Acid just isn't available in my area, not that I know of at least. Bedake is right on though, I remember my grade school health teacher telling the class that "acid stays in your body forever".
A friend of mine did San Pedro, he got a foot of cactus and used a method similar to this one that ended with a vile tasting green liquid drunk over a couple hours.

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where state/country do you live in?

Mass, United States. People claim they can get it sometimes but never come through.