Joel Stein,former staff writer for TIME magazine, is an honest leftist. No pussyfooting around for him, he comes right out and tells the truth. :confused: :stoned: :dance:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...mment-opinions
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Joel Stein,former staff writer for TIME magazine, is an honest leftist. No pussyfooting around for him, he comes right out and tells the truth. :confused: :stoned: :dance:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...mment-opinions
Yes, he does. Scary, huh?
Howdy amsterdam,
It seems to me..that if one is against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan,then one is also against women's rights,anywhere in the world. It's time to bring down the male-dominated ,islamofacist regimes and bring democratic reform to the middle-east,especially if our envir-nazi's continue to stymie our energy independence from such brutal regimes.
I don't understand why idiots like Joel Stein,can cling selfishly to their freedom and deny other folks,their freedom. How can they sleep at night ?
I'd like to ask Stein: "Should we bring the troops home,and make America the front-lines of the war ?" "Should we just back off and allow OPEC to dictate the price of oil and the amount of supply ?" "Why do you deny others their in-alienable right to freedom--while you cling selfishly to your's ? "
I could go on,but ya git the idea,huh ?
Have a good one !
From what i have heard torog, that womens rights in Iraq are worse off then B4 the war, even the new iraq constitution has laws that gives women less rights, afghan women still live in fear and still have to cover there heads. I dont see no improvement in womens rights.
I posted it once on how women won quite a few extra's in the rights catagory in the new Iraq constitution. Grasping at straws bro! :rasta:Quote:
Originally Posted by eg420ne
Thats bullshit dude they still have to were the burkas, and the new Iraq constitituion give less rights to women..
What Now for the Women of Afghanistan and Iraq?
by Amanda Cherrin and Leonard Tengco, Communications Interns
The "War on Terrorism" gave many Iraqi and Afghan women the hope of a reformed nation and improved social situation. Promised a more pronounced voice in government and extensive social reform, these women are under-represented in the new interim governments, facing substandard social and economic status and, in some cases, worse off than before the U.S. military intervention.
Afghanistan: Still a Dangerous Place to Be a Woman
Although the Bush Administration used the mistreatment of Afghan women as a factor to justify military action and pledged to restore their rights post-conflict, Afghan women have yet to see the promise of social equality fulfilled. The Taliban has been chased from the country, to be replaced in the countryside by warlords who differ only slightly from their predecessors. As a result, the women of Afghanistan still suffer from many of the same hardships that they faced before the war.
Since the fall of the Taliban, there have been some improvements in women's rights in terms of access to education and employment. However, most gains for Afghan women have been made in Kabul, where an international peacekeeping force is stationed. Outside of the capital city it is a very different story. Regional commanders, who are often former warlords, govern cities and provinces with an iron fist, many just like the Taliban. Police officers often force Afghan women to wear the traditional burqa in public, a practice most in the U.S. assumed was long over.
All over Afghanistan, women are imprisoned for a variety of "offenses," ranging from adultery to conversations with non-familial men. Women arrested for the latter "crime" are often taken to hospitals for "chastity tests," which attempt to determine whether they are virgins or have recently had intercourse.
According to a July 2003 Human Rights Watch report, the Southeast Afghanistan army and police practice of kidnapping, robbing and raping is so prevalent that women and girls are staying home as a means of protection. The fear of assault and political intimidation prevents the women and girls from gaining an education, employment and political influence.
These human rights violations are not confined to the Southeastern region, since reports of government officials targeting women for harassment are filed throughout the country.
In Herat, Afghanistan's second largest city, the government of former warlord Ismael Khan has rolled back the rights of women and girls by limiting educational and employment opportunities, censoring women's groups, sidelining women from his administration and enlisting young boys to find and report "un-Islamic" behavior in women, according to Human Rights Watch.
Women's rights are not only threatened by the traditional governments, as unofficial efforts are being made to deter women from entering society. According to the Feminist Majority, pamphlets urging parents not to send their daughters to school are regularly distributed in Afghan communities, and many girls' schools have been firebombed and burned. The consequence of these attacks is drop in school attendance in the targeted areas.
In an effort to improve the situation of Afghan women, the Feminist Majority has called for the expansion of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) beyond the confines of Kabul, increased reconstruction funding and direct funds for the Ministry of Women's Affairs and the Independent Human Rights Commission, and NOW has joined in that call.
Since the U.S. has concentrated its efforts on Iraq, the plight of Afghanistan has largely been ignored by the Bush Administration.
Iraq: A Step Backwards for Women
Much as they did in Afghanistan, the Bush administration has backed up its "war on terror" battle cry with another justification for invading Iraq??calling "Operation Enduring Freedom" a humanitarian effort to free the Iraqi people from the Hussein regime. Iraqis are now trying to recover from a devastating war, which resulted in between 6,087 and 7,798 civilian deaths, and critics are questioning whether the situation has worsened for Iraqi women.
Contrary to public assumption, women in Iraq once enjoyed relative equality, frequently contributing to and benefitting from Iraq's largely secular economy. It was even common for Iraqi women to hold political office, and the U.N. ranked Iraq as the Arab country with the highest level of gender equity. Prior to the 2003 invasion, women comprised more than 20% of the Iraqi workforce, holding a wide range of technical, professional, and governmental positions, including a full fifth of the country's parliamentary seats.
However, in the disastrous aftermath of the war, Iraqi women have already become dangerously oppressed because of U.S. funded reconstruction. Following the onset of political occupation, the U.S. government has sought to decrease the influence of Iraqi women by filling their former parliamentary positions with men. At the first meeting for post-Baathist reconstruction, only four out of eighty representatives of the new government were women. Of the 25 newly appointed Cabinet members, only one is a woman. In the recently established Governing Council, women fill only three of 25 seats. Even more disturbingly, on September 20, one of the three female council members was fatally shot in a successful assassination attempt.
According to a July 2003 Human Rights Watch report, the failure of Iraqi and U.S. forces to provide a domestic security has led to an increase in abductions and sexual violence against women. The report found that low priority was given to allegations of sexual assault and abduction, and those who attempted to report instances of sexual violence were met with indifference by both U.S. officers and Iraqi police. Many Iraqi women, frightened to leave their homes, are choosing safety over participation in public life and in the reconstruction of their country.
In the post-Saddam era, some rights are already being restricted. The Christian Science Monitor reports Iraqi Universities implementing dress codes, mosques turning away women who aren't wearing abayas over their clothing, and societal pressure on women to cover their hair. This turn toward the past is already having a devastating affect on the rights and liberties of Iraqi women.
Women in Iraq need you
Condemn a Constitution of de-humanizing Women!
An era of post-occupation atrocities unfolded to disclose the final chapter of human rights abuse in Iraq: A constitution of legalizing women??s discrimination.
The constitution draft which was circulated secretly eliminated the minimal rights women had under the previous 1959 ??Personal Status Law?. Although this law was partly based on Islamic Shariaa, it included much reform that secured minimal standards of human rights for women, such as preventing marriage for female children and making polygamy more difficult for men ?? a practice that is allowed under Shariaa in addition to beatings, stoning, flogging and forced veiling.
The draft constitution indicates in its article 14 the elimination of the current law and refers family laws completely to Islamic Shariaa and to other religions in Iraq. In other words, it leaves women vulnerable to all inequalities and social hostility in addition to designating females as second rate citizens or semi-humans.
Since the beginning of the occupation, the US administration has recognized Iraqis according to their ethnic/nationalist and religious identities. This predetermined polarization of the society around its most reactionary forces has resulted with a most lethal weapon which is a government of division and inequality - a potential timed bomb for a civil war that has already started. Furthermore, the only mutual agenda for the parties in power is one of oppression, bigotry and misogyny in addition to representing the US occupation interests.
The enemies of the people seated in the panel of writing the constitution have decided to give life to resolution 137. This resolution isolates Iraqis from the modern world and turns Iraq into an Afghanistan under Taliban where oppression and discrimination of women is institutionalized under Shariaa.
We have witnessed stages and kinds of atrocities under this occupation. The time comes for the US occupation to leave an unprecedented hallmark of abusing human rights by forcing a constitution that turns 13 million women into semi-humans.
We need your support in rejecting a constitution that gives way to decades of silent massacres against women.
Let the freedom loving people of the US know what is being committed in their name and in the name of democracy.
Write open letters to the US administration, to its allies, and especially to the UN. Remind them that women??s rights cannot be the price for a hideous democracy of racism, ethnicity, religiosity, sectsrianism and misogyny.
Help us find a way out of the never ending attack on our freedoms and lives.
Women May Lose Basic Rights Under New Constitution
http://www.religiousconsultation.org...nstitution.htm
Yanar Mohammed
Organization of Women??s Freedom in Iraq
23 July 2005
http://www.equalityiniraq.com/englis...tion081005.htm
Iraqi Women May Lose Basic Rights Under New Constitution http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0723-06.htm
Torog, how can you spread that peverted nazi-esque propoganda in a forum for weed smokers? Are you trying to freak everyone out? Were you bullied at school?
Well I guess Saddam was one hell of a modern dictator in the middle east then!Quote:
Originally Posted by eg420ne
Part of their PREAMBLE
We the people of Iraq, newly arisen from our disasters and looking with confidence to the future through a democratic, federal, republican system, are determined -- men and women, old and young -- to respect the rule of law, reject the policy of aggression, pay attention to women and their rights, the elderly and their cares, the children and their affairs, spread the culture of diversity and defuse terrorism.
PART ONE: RIGHTS
FIRST: Civil and political rights.
Article (14): Iraqis are equal before the law without discrimination because of sex, ethnicity, nationality, origin, color, religion, sect, belief, opinion or social or economic status.
Article (20): Citizens, male and female, have the right to participate in public matters and enjoy political rights, including the right to vote and run as candidates.
Article (35):3rd -- Forced labor, slavery and the commerce in slaves is forbidden, as is the trading in women or children or the sex trade.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/24/i...ml?pagewanted=1
In Iraq, many women are demanding that lawmakers enact constitutional changes ensuring they have greater say in political, economic and social affairs. VOA's Chris Simkins reports on efforts to increase women's rights in Iraq.
http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-01-25-voa31.cfm
I believe that in the Saddam days this ol' girl would have been told to shut the fuck up. You'll notice in the article that some of these women aren't wearing the burka also!! :thumbsup:
I was speaking about the burkas in terms of afghanistan
And it still falls under the Sharia Law in which the Iraqi govt approved
Well, guess you got me there....NOT!!! :thumbsup: :dance:Quote:
Originally Posted by eg420ne
Despite the bad news that's featured every day on the front pages of the newspaper, there are positive changes happening in every corner of the globe! In Afghanistan, women have become judges, and NGOs are opening up more and more schools for girls
http://www.commondreams.org/news2006/0123-25.htm
Howdy Raiden,Quote:
Originally Posted by Raiden
Well..I went back and read what I said and I cannot find any statement that promotes and advances naziism,can you please point out which part of my post does that ?
Maybe you should answer the questions I'd like to pose to Joel Stein if I could,I'm sure yer answers will reveal yer true colors.
Nope,I wasn't bullied at school,but I did git robbed once,by 3 black guys with knives,in the school library,in the 10th grade.
Have a good one ...
I think they probably sleep just as well as those who don't raise so much as a finger when freedom is denied to black and brown people who don't live in Biblical, oil-rich nations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Torog
This whole "spreading freedom and democracy" bullshit is hypocrisy at its finest. Always has been, always will be.
That article was a good read.
Haha, funny comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by andruejaysin