Salvia experience changed my life.

ok well. this is probably going to be a bit of a long read but whatever. so a couple nights ago i decided to try 20x salvia out of a gravity bong to get its full effects.

first im going to describe the layout of the room so you sorta get what im takling about. its a square room where in the upper right corner theres a chair, across from it is a TV, then lower right corner theres a couch, and across from taht is another chair. then to the right of the couch is the door.

so its about 7 oclock, im all ready to go, got a sitter and im ready to do it. so i light the about 1/4g of 20x that was resting on the tinfoil in the gravity bong, i light and let the water start to drizzle out the bottom. at this point im thinking, ok im going to do it, no turning back. so when the entire thing is full, i give my sitter instructions and hand him the lighter.

i rip it hard. suck every bit of smoke out of the large dasani waterbottle. and immedietly i can feel it. oh before i did this i took about 2-3 hits of mid weed. (probably shouldnt have done it because i couldnt tell when the salvia was coming down). so i take the fat rip of salvia and blow it out the door, i turn around and planning to make it to the couch, find myself walking into the middle of the room, where instead of the TV is a big black hole with what appears to be vines over it. and about 3 feet infront of the hole is a stage, a big red stage and i step up onto it. and i feel a sence of power that i cant even describe because standing behind me, is an army of demons where teh couch should be.

i cant even describe it, it was so real, like a dream that i couldnt wake up from. and at thsi point i kinda thought, woa shit, salvia is working, but then i got a bit scared as i realized i couldnt make the dream stop. so i pictured myself in the third person to try to grasp reality one last time. (great tactic if you get a bit scared).

so then i turn back around to face the gaping hole and from deep within something whispers teh words "lady salvia. you have stepped where you do not belong. you arent ready. leave. now."

just after that i take a couple side steps to the chair and fall down in blackness. then all of a sudden trains come in from all angles. i am like in a playpen. with toys, mostly trains. then my memory goes a bit blurry.

then at this point i heard the doorbell ring (oh by the way the whole time i have no fucking idea where my sitter was, cuz when i sat down on the floor i think i scraped and bruised my arm on the chair leg rest). so the bell rings and im like OH FUCK, it was the pizza guy, at this point the sitter comes back and tells me he needs some money, it was then that i realized i was laughing the entire time.

so i take out my wallet and cant figure out what each bill is worth, they were like doing weird shit i dont really remember but all i remember is not being able to do anything so i just gave him my wallet.

now i have sorta a grasp of reality but not really. so i decide to sit down in the chair, and im staring at my lap which is shifting and doing weird shit. then my sitter said something about reading, so i picked up the ps2 case for Bunout 3. this parts insane

on the case, in the middle theres letters. thers white writing and then it says "burnout 3" in red, then more white letters under it. and therse a car, and all around the car is broken glass and shit. thats what its like in real life. so i pick it up and look at it, then, the car makes a noise, and the glass re-explodes right infront of my face. and the white lettesr (which i cant read at all) move. they shift completely. so im like wtf? and i pick up the first line of white letters like a bar. and i hold it up infront of my face adn it explodes like the glass.

here im kinda like woa sweet. then i sorta fall back down on the floor and put my attention back to the gaping hole where the tv should be. and heres where the bad shit happens....

a black figure emerges from the gaping hole. (im laying on the floor) and it comes out, sticks its face in mine, which i dont remember what it looks like. and says "get out. shes coming for you. lady salvia. you have stepped where you DO NOT BELONG!" so i stand up and start to panic a bit, trying to picture myself in third person and escape "lady salvia".

i go over to the couch and sit down, just staring at the black void from which the thing came. and i start to panic. because i dont have any grasp of time, at all. im away from teh hole but every time i try to remember what happened, i get afraid that im going to go back, and that shes going to kill me. my face starts to burn up, and i sweat like mad. i grab my face and start telling myself i shouldnt have done it, and i want it to go away.

and at this point i get scared because i think its only been 10 seconds since i hit it. im like omg, i have another 4 minutes and 50 seconds of this. (because i remember people saying salvia trips are five minutes, bull fucking shit. never believe that). then my sitter comes back and sits down next to me, asking me what i saw. im still tripping, and i tell him not to worry about me. i just keep saying im ok dont worry, she didnt get me. im ok, just dont call the cops. and i couldnt hear what he said but something told me to eat.

so i stumble into teh kitchen and try to get some pizza, i take a bite but theres a wall where my throat is, so i cant swallow it and i spit it out. i go back and sit down on the couch where he has rugrats on. its the episode where tommys little brother makes up an imaginary friend named Izzy. and every1 likes izzy but no one can see him, except me. izzy was a green alien that i could actually see on the screen, and everything that happened to izzy happened to me. like when chuckie ran over him, i felt hard pressure on my chest.

i start trying to come down, seeing myself in third person, and finally the hallucinating stops. and i just feel really really really high. and i start to tell my trip to my sitter, who didnt believe me, which was incredibly frustrating. i understand it sounds insane but every bit is true.

the worst part, was while i was on the ground with the trains, i had no grasp of reality and i kept thinking that what if my sitter got scared for me, or what if he tried to tell me something, i couldnt do anything. and since we werent sure if it would work, i couldnt tell him "dude it worked, im tripping, its ok dont be scared for me just let it finish". and that scared me the most.

throughout the trip i remembered memories that i had long forgotten. memories of me playing with toys when i was like 5 years old.

in conclusion, i think that no one should mess with salvia unless they know what they are doing. i researched it for weeks, and thought i knew what i was doing. i had no idea. the trips i was reading have an entirely new meaning. like when people say "its so real, its a dream u cant wake up from and u dont know your dreaming" now i understand.

another scary thing was i asked my sitter how long i was triping, he told me 25 to 30 minutes. i started to panic again because to me it was about 30 seconds, i had no idea what was going on in the real world. i was completely detached. the rest of the night i was shaken up, i was afraid i was going to go back to where i was. and i will never see taht room the same again.

i highly reccomend using an experienced sitter who will know exactly whats going to happen to you so that you wont worry, a clock that you can loook at, and try not to walk around. also never ever under estimate, and dont start with 20x.

the after effects are i have no desire to smoke weed. its incredibly weird. now i just dont want to do it. i thought taht once i did it i would be back to normal so i took a few hits last night and i was just pissed that i did it, and regretted it immedietly so i just went to sleep.

sorry for the long post, i hope atleast someone willl read it and give me some feedback. thanks guys.

oh wow, i just looked over that, its fucking long lol.

i tried salvia... at first it was dry leaves.. and i smoked massive amts of it.. didnt feel shit.. just a little weed like buzz

then i smoked 10x... it was in no way as intense as that.. but alot of weird shit like that happend to me.. i was sitting on my bed.. and i felt like i was the blanket and i felt like i was being flattend. idk its hard to explain. i thought it was a little weird but fun... i dont really like hallucinogens, at least salvia isnt like shrooms or acid or anything

oh yea i forgot to ask, this is the only hallucinogen ive done and how does it compare to shrooms. because i sorta wana do shrooms but if its anywhere as powerful as salvia then fuck that.

amazing man... very scary. i sometimes wonder if it's dangerous to go rooting around in your deeper id portion of your psyche. Might find something terrible in there. Or Wonderful.

yea, i think im just too young to be fucking with that shit.

skip those nasty shrooms and go straight for the top: ACID. Seriously, if you want to have a good time, do it. Acid is a much better version of shrooms, with of course a slight variation in its effects.

bro i was guna get sum salvia this weekend, cos ive tried it b4 and it was fukn crazy, but after that i duno, had the same thing wif greens after salvia jus didnt want it, made me feel sick, i wana try mushies, but as sum1 sed who nos wats locked back in my mind, and drugs open up many different doorways in the mind, unlock the wrong door and ur fucked, the mind is powerful and very scary, mines not i smoke to much weed

^^ yea omg thats it. when i look at weed now i feel not really sick but i dont have the desire. i used to see a fat sack and be like "ohh!!! sweet!" now i look at my stash and its not even remotely appealing. what should i do??

it might not have been an entire 4th, i just estimated that.

id be pissed if i were u ^^ thats wicked fucked up that ur friend didnt believe u

Hey, at least you didn't lose your memory. My buddie and i did slavia together with no sitter and after i took my hit his face turned into an easter egg island statue. The next thing i remember he was across the room from me pointing to his elbow. Then suddenly i swiming in a sea of blankets. Then i was outside where the trip ended. We went inside and realized we lost 20 minutes of time.

Salvia can fuck you up. A real life alice in wonderland expeirence. 20X? That ain't nothin compared to 80X.

Maybe I should do 10X instead of 15X

^yea man id reccomend starting as low as possible^. and dude 80x are u shitting me. that would probably kill every1 in the world except terrence mckenna. but what do u guys think about weed not being appealing anymore. i keep getting high and trying to like it but it sucks. i just hate the feeling now. and its freaking me out.

maybe trying salvia again with a better mood and less nervousness, maybe a little less might help you out :). And.. weed isnt the only drug so think about all the others you can try. I dont know how to say this but.. maybe weed isnt for you anymore.

Have you ever done any other drugs other then slavia and dope? Maybe now you've expeirenced salvia you need to move higher up the drug latter. Try mushrooms and smoke pot with em, Mushrooms can change you life too. Make you realize things you didn't know about yourself before.

Plus their fuckin fun.

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oh yea i forgot to ask, this is the only hallucinogen ive done and how does it compare to shrooms. because i sorta wana do shrooms but if its anywhere as powerful as salvia then fuck that.

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Nope, shrooms are nothing like salvia, much much more mindblowing (in my opinion) you see alot of dazzling hallucinations, and cool patterns. It's truely a unique high, with a long duration. I tried salvia before mushrooms, and felt ALOT more comfortable while on mushrooms,then on salvia. When your plunged into the salvia reality, i felt extremly out of place. Mushrooms are the opposite, you feel at one, with everything! Its a great feeling,and you definately should try them.

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but what do u guys think about weed not being appealing anymore. i keep getting high and trying to like it but it sucks. i just hate the feeling now. and its freaking me out.

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Its the same for me sometimes, more often when I smoke on my own then go to bed, I just think about bad stuff like spirits and ghosts, not because Im afraid of the dark or anything, just because I start thinking too much and cant get to sleep.

Wow that is the way to do salvia. Awesome story.

Im going to try that 3rd person tactic. Like, just try to control your actions from a 3rd person perspective? :confused:

dude if u don't mind me asking but how old are u. i'm 16 man and i done 20X and 40X, its some crazy shit, but really good, i had a good time on it. but ur story was really good. about mushrooms, i have done them tons of times, and like most of my mates said on the thrid trip u start to see things like halloucinate, but i haven't had a bad trip on them, i guess salvia and shrooms are in a way the same, when u have a bad trip it is really bad, and when u have a good one they are fucking awesome. just one more question, why do u think it put u off smoking bud later?

NightFox im 14. yea i think im gona do shrooms but the only thing is, if i start to have a bad trip and realize that its gona go on for hours i might go insane. thanks alot for all the feedback guys. this is really confusing me and i want to overcome this stage adn go back to enjoying the herb.

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dude if u don't mind me asking but how old are u. i'm 16 man and i done 20X and 40X, its some crazy shit, but really good, i had a good time on it. but ur story was really good. about mushrooms, i have done them tons of times, and like most of my mates said on the thrid trip u start to see things like halloucinate, but i haven't had a bad trip on them, i guess salvia and shrooms are in a way the same, when u have a bad trip it is really bad, and when u have a good one they are fucking awesome. just one more question, why do u think it put u off smoking bud later?

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sorry for the double post but i wanted to asnwer your question. im not exactly sure why weed isnt appealing anymore. i think the power of the trip scared me so much that the feeling of being out of it isnt really "cool" like it used to be. i used to get real high and be like haha man this kicks ass im trippin! but now its like im high...fuck. i duno i cant really explain it. i just hope its a phaze.

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Wow that is the way to do salvia. Awesome story.

Im going to try that 3rd person tactic. Like, just try to control your actions from a 3rd person perspective? :confused:

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haha triple post. im sorry. so yea euphoric you just picture yourself in the third person. so imagine like looking at yourself on the ground from the eyes of someone else in the room. helps to grasp reality.

Man, you need to learn how to control your mind. Control your trips. It takes a lot of concentration sometimes. Not letting anything happening around you break your hold on reality. That why people have bad trips. And it only gets worse when you try to fight it, just go with the flow yo.

Yeah, Salvia is awesome. Not for everyone, though.

i just picked up some 15x from a chicago headshop called Purple Sticky Salvia

i tried a tiny bit and my computer screen became a sail of a ship....

i like it, but haaaate the feeling of clothes on my skin when im on it

its fucked up shit. i tried to smoke again last night, hated it. i think im gona do salvia again and like i duno ask her or something wtf she did to my love for weed lol.

i read about halfway through that and i have to say it sonuds sweet but also its maybe the longest post ive seen on here

hey man about the shrooms, now this is from my experience, but when we are high on shrooms, have a jar of chocolate milk, if it starts to get real bad, drink as much of the milk as u can, it will help u come off it really quickly, i have seen it work. hope this helps u man, and thanks for answering the questions.

hey cool man. thanks alot nightfox. its cool to have cool people on the boards. haha and yea s2headhunter its pretty long but i warned every1 at the top of the post.

My Salvia experiences were all the same, but different.... something new happend on each salvia trip. THe first time, i smoked salvia with my freind, that i got it from. I inhaled, and everything, turned to blocks. Including my friends face. It was trippy as hell.

THe second time, i was with the same friend, and we smoked some near a stream. We each smoked 2 small bowls of the shit, and i felt like i was on a enviromental wheel, and that the stream was on of many sections on this wheel. It was a mindfuck, and cool as hell.

The third time, was definately the most fucked up one of them all. I was sitting in my room, smoking bowls of really good weed, with really good oil dripped onto it. I smoked about 3 bowls of this, in buckets. I remembered i had some more salvia left in the pack, so i loaded a bowl of it, and dripping some of the hash oil onto the salvia flakes. I knew i was in for a fucked up time.

I was watching everybody loves raymond the television show, and when i held the salvia in for 30 seconds, and blew it out, i was watching debra laugh on the show, and her mouth gaped open very widely, and it kept getting bigger until her mouth consumed her whole face. I was hit with a HUGE spell of laughter, and i was rolling around in my bed laughing, feeling sunk into my bed, and floating all over. I looked around my room, and everything was a redish orange tint, and i got connected to, by my lips to everything i looked at. THis is the best i can explain it... I looked down at my arm at one point, and i was holding a roll pack of gum (like a bubble tape) and there was a red dragons eye, blinking in the center of it. I then looked up, and i had 4 arms, which i physically felt attached to my back. My four arms, were holding the gum aswell, and 4 dragons eyes stared back at me. It looked like some alien dragon thing. My arms got pulled into the walls, which were liquid, and i was flowing through the walls.

Salvia is defiantely cool, but it can be intense.

yea i think i just got overwhelmed. well guys its been almost 2 weeks i think since my trip and i still am having problems. i hate being high now. it just depresses me yet i smoke anyway. i think i am just going to stop for good.

I would just try putting positive words and images in your head of herb, to maybe get your brain back into it. And if your'e going to try mushrooms, go into it with positivity. Don't think about bad trips, think positive with hallucination.

The only time i ever felt like i was starting to have a bad trip, was when i was in the middle of the dark on halloween on 3 grams of shrooms. I ran home, and hid in my room, and it took me half an hour to calm down. After that, it was a great trip.

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it only gets worse when you try to fight it, just go with the flow yo.

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This is the critical key with a salvia experience.

before id smoked slavia id never tried enything that could make you hallucinate, it was fukn scary tho,
the first time i tried salvia i was tokin from my bong so i had one hand on the lighter and the other holding the bong and i thought i was paralyzed couldnt move for maybe 5 mins, when i finally managed to move i was so amazed i couldnt believe it,
the second hit i took i jus laughed for ages, but the next day i smoked it in the day time sitn in the car and my face felt it it wanted to move to the side but my head wouldnt let it, yea it was fucked and then i jus tripped out thought id gone mental cos i was tryin to talk to my mate but everything i sed jus made no sense at all,

i duno during the day salvia was not fun at all, maybe i had a bad trip who knows, but can salvia fuck u up for good,

all u lucky cunts that can get saliva easy as shit, who can jus walk down the shop and get it or simply get it off the net NEVER TAKE IT FOR GRANTED!
cause here in australia its as illegal as cocaine and herion!! and all the sites that ive seen sell it DONT post to australia. i will prob NEVER get to experence it. im fuckin pissed off fuckin aus government.

Its illegal here in Finland too. Fuck!

And i cant even get weed.