Experimentation for the Serious Person

I know I'm still very new here and all but I see this on every single forum: A guy asks about trying a certain drug, asking everything he can about it. The next day, a guy asks about trying a certain drug, asking everything he can about it. The next day, guy asks about trying a certain drug, asking everything he can about it... Get my drift?

So here is something that might last a few days.

Experimentation Guide, Draft 1

I. Preparedness
+ 1. The Research
Most people I see asking questions probably don't give a rat's ass about research. They want to get messed up in every way they possibly can. If it floats your boat that's cool, but at least know what you're getting into. Erowid ( http://www.erowid.org ) is the biggest research center I know of.

Erowid contains information on just about anything you'd ever think of plus a bit more. It gives you pitcures, dosages, personal experiences, magazine articles, published studies, occsionally surveys, and many other outside references. Erowid is THE PLACE to go.

Also, ask close friends if you know they've tried it. There is no better source than a direct source, and friends are even better. Try to get as much information as you can without seeming odd.

+ 2. The Questions
Want to get a bit more personal? Come here and search the threads. I normally do 3-7 searches with different word combinations before giving up and posting my own in any new forum. If you can't find anything, ask about it. But remember:

- Any question you can ask has probably been asked on the forum. In the unlikely event it hasn't, start a thread. Entail what you do know but show us the gap in the puzzle, so to speak. Let the educated or experienced fill in the blank. There are more than enough people here and I'm willing to bet you will find an answer if you form a good question that hasn't been answered.

- Don't be shy. We all had first times and we all made mistakes in discussing certain things. A mistake with some chemicals can cost you a lot, and in some cases your life.

- Don't hesitate to ask a question that you believe would require a team research effort if it means something to you. I will help to my greatest ability anyone who poses a question that is of some importance to the general public of the board. Keep that in mind- we are members of a forum. An answer you get or a discovery you make might make a difference to someone else.

+ 3. The Situation
This is an important part of the experience. You need to be prepared. You will most likely want to have as pure and 'real' an experience as is possible. First times are always the ones you can make the most fun of, but can also turn into disasters. Planning is needed.

- Have a free day open. You need to be doing either very little important things or none at all on the day of this experience.

- Don't have any arranged meetings after you have taken/smoked/done the drug. Riding in a car while tripping can become a scary experience. Also driving is potentially dangerous. I can drive quite fine while stoned as hell or tripping out the shoes, but I am not the same as you. You do not know how this chemical will affect you, so leave anything of that nature out of the answer to "when."

- Have a set place in which you can feel comfortable. Have a set number of people around and try not to be too uncomfortable with any of them, either. If anything, go solo unless you feel you need a sitter.

II. Acquisition
+ 1. The Person
I highly suggest you do not buy from anyone you do not personally know or trust. Even if a friend likes them, they may not be what you need. It is easy to find friends who know friends who know friends... But who says they are all too friendly? Try to stay as close to your group as possible, and it would be best to put off the experience until yo ucan get to know a new member you may meet.

+ 2. The Substance
Know that what you are getting is truly what you want. Know how to identify the substance, perhaps you may ven want to buy a small sample to test at home.

If necessary, bring a scale of your own to check the guy's measurements or to offer for him to check with if he brings a pre-measured amount. If it's something you can't eyeball or measure easily (like blotter), ask about dosage.

If the dealer doesn't know what he's talking about or is very vague with his information, find a new guy. You do not want a passer and pusher, you want a knowledgable and professionalist person who you can count on for quality.

+ 3. The Wait
As goes with the calendar-marking portion of the experimenting, you need to hold onto the substance for as little time as possible. Why? One, discovery (by anyone) can lead to disaster. Two, some chemicals do have a shelf-life if not stored properly... But then again you should know your shite since you did the research. :thumbsup:

III. The Experience
+ 1. The Situation II
Again, don't let the situation get out of your control. This is your experience, and if it means much to you, you will want the controls at your lap. More powerful substances can cause disaster if the situation is imporperly set up.

Inebriation will not allow for an easy fix of a turned situation, so let's just make it so we have nothing to fix later.

+ 2. The Substance(s?)
You may or may not want to enhance your experience with other substances. If you have done many substances alone you may want to experiment with combinations, but if it's your first time you may only want other stimulants as a backup. (Smoking a J will calm you down some in a bad acid trip in most cases.)

Be sure that you use the substance in the best way possible, and that means finding out which. Erowid's information only tells you want can be done, only the experience area can give you the "which is best" aspect of the list.

You should only get enough of the substance(s) to get you feeling what you want. This is because, on the offchance the experience catches you off-guard, you will have very little to worry about. Worry is a trainwreck on down the tracks as far as anything is concerned. Besides maybe heroin.

+ 3. The Real Experience
This is it. You have prepared and most likely done research. Go ahead and do what you need to. Want to write it down? Sure. Trip reports are helpful to both you and anyone who sees them. Maybe you have a sober sitter. Don't just sit there, talk to them (if capable). Normal activities are usually the best way to enjoy an experience.

If you aren't getting the feeling you expected, go for a change in environment. Try to keep the situation as stable as possible, but manage to introduce some bit of change.

If you begin having a bad experience in the way of scary, talk to your friend about it if one is there. If not, try to remain peaceful and remind yourself you would not be feeling this way if not for a silly chemical. Try to get your mind off of that feeling.


All in all, try to enjoy it. Bring along cards or something to enjoy doing while the experience is being experienced.


But most importantly...

Be responsible! Drugs are a risk you take. That risk can be physical, mental, or emotional. People can find your experimentation as disgusting and choose not to talk to you, you can go into a bad mentality and have a bad trip, or you could end up accidentally hurting yourself or others or potentially overdosing if the substance was incorrectly identified or applied.

So in other words, know what you are doing. It makes the experience so much better. It is also ver yrewarding when approached with questions that you can answer in a confident manner.

Feel free to add to this. I hope it can help people like it would have helped me in my early years.

And good luck.

--mic

Good info, this should get stickied or whatever. But, if you are having trouble finding info you need on erowid then its always safer to ask here on the forums than guessing.

If I didn't make that clear enough, yes... Always try to learn from whatever resources you can.

It helps in the long run.

I don't care if you do heroin, but if you don't know how to purify it, how to know when it's been cut too much, how to inject, etc... Then that's no good. Being responsible for yourself is top priority. And try to only be fascinated by drugs, and not addicted to them. That's all they are, certain chemicals that make you feel better. If you let that take ahold of you then you may need to reconsider your priorities.

And yes, this was a shameless bump that I barely attempted to disguise.

But people do need to know.

--mic

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Originally Posted by audiocide

And try to only be fascinated by drugs, and not addicted to them.

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Exactly. Drugs can really be an educational experience, I wish more people would realize this.

I love you

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Originally Posted by RastaKaze

Exactly. Drugs can really be an educational experience, I wish more people would realize this.

I love you

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You know, you come off as a well educated person, someone to shoot the shit with.

I think this is the start

of the end of my post.

Gotta love anticlimaxes.

--mic

Shameless bump.

Learned about mushrooms today... Kid ate some out by the ag building on Sunday at the local school, and apparently vomited himself to death or something. They say possible asphyxiation. (sp?)

Please people, learn to identify these things... They can be dangerous.

--mic

the serious person doesn't experiment

yo, this needs to be stickied, because i'm sick of people wasting forum space asking "can i get high off of amoxicillin, ibuprofen, zitromax, ect" and asking the same questions in numerous different threads

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Originally Posted by wutang123456

yo, this needs to be stickied, because i'm sick of people wasting forum space asking "can i get high off of amoxicillin, ibuprofen, zitromax, ect" and asking the same questions in numerous different threads

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I won't help, you underestimate the stupidity of the average human.

^^^I meant "it" not "I". But you knew that already.

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Originally Posted by andruejaysin

I won't help, you underestimate the stupidity of the average human.

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Yep. This forum is the worst, too.