AHHG!!! TRANCE IS NOT TECHNO

I've seen soooo many situations where people call DJ Tiesto, Armin Van Burin, Paul Oakenfold, and similar artists techno and you are almost entirely wrong. There is the biggest fucking difference in the world between TRANCE and TECHNO. Yes they are both subcatagories of electronica but THEY ARE IN NO WAY SIMILAR. Techno is crappy ofton random noise making with a gay sounding bouncy bassline and virtually no melody except for random noise. The synths are ofton very jagged saw waves and usually has no or little filter cutoff.

Trance on the other hand is much more cleaner sounding and actually more melodic with more rounded sounding synths and a bassline closely in sync with the beat. The "arps" are usually filtered with a low pass filter so all the annoying high frequency's are filtered out that get that "screaming" synth that you ofton hear in techno music. So all you get is a smooth arp for teh harmony or melody.

Also another big difference is techno is usually in the upper 150-180 bpm (beats per minute) which is just fucking annoying. Trance is usually anywere between 120-140 bpm i think.

People many times have confused Trance with techno and sometimes they are dumb enough to say there is no difference. I have had even relatives before ask me "what type of music do you listen to again? Techno?" and they are so fucking stupid because i've told them time after time again that my music is trance and there is a big fucking difference between the two.

So those of you on here that cant tell the difference just remember techno is like fuckng random noise and trance is more melodic and no where as primitive. Surely trance music fans on this board can relate to what i'm talkin about this just bugs the hell out of me.

i really hate any electronic music seriously i cant imagine how ppl can listen it hours a day in their mp3 or whatever

but i must say its a good music to dance. but again, im not into techno or raves. i prefer big punk-metal slams!!

and i prefer melodic music with instruments, voices, solos, anything. really electronic music doesnt give me any emotions or nothing special.

but yes techno and trance arent the same, just like rap and hip-hop, punk and commercial punk, classic metal-heavy metal-power metal-death metal, etc etc

i agree techno and trance are way different. i dont listen to techno at all but trance i will on occasion, like when i am shrooming or when i am sober and i just want to hit the highway and drive like a bat outta hell. lol. but besides that all i really have to say is that trance gets me kinda pumped up in a sence so i have to be doing something exciting to listen and enjoy

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but yes techno and trance arent the same, just like rap and hip-hop

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Yes,people don't go around calling hip-hop and rap the same thing so why do they call trance and techno the same. I've had people say "oh, your listening to techno" when i'm clearly listening to trance. "It's like OMG you retard i wanna fucking strangle you". I don't see how it's even possible to get the two mixed up? :confused: :confused: :mad:

lmao

yea i love electronic music! it doesnt really bother me when people get them confused cause i really dont expect them to know any better, i dont listen to rap so i dont know the difference between rap and hip hop.

I usually tell people that i listen to techno thats faster than normal techno, cause if i said i listen to happy hardcore hardcore, gabber, industrial, drum and bass jungle trance psy trance goa trance they would be like.... "OMG REALLY?!!!?! i like DJ sammy!!", and then id have to kill them

yeah electro, drum in bass, progressive trance, goa/psy, funky house, jungle, tech trance and some techno are good, but most people wouldnt know the difference,

bit like the way i wouldnt have a clue about any pop celebrites and shit cause i never watch or listen to it

the music is universal

dude wtf i guess there is no such thing as techno unles you wanna go bang on a bunch of stuff really fast and call it techno.....u guys are gay they sound the same... sure you can go make up subcategories for everything if you want to but there the same thing and some just sound different than others. You could say something like "this song is subhardcore terranian techno because it has 110 bpm and a 400 hz tune" but you will just sound like a retard.

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Originally Posted by Dopa

I've seen soooo many situations where people call DJ Tiesto, Armin Van Burin, Paul Oakenfold, and similar artists techno and you are almost entirely wrong. There is the biggest fucking difference in the world between TRANCE and TECHNO. Yes they are both subcatagories of electronica but THEY ARE IN NO WAY SIMILAR. Techno is crappy ofton random noise making with a gay sounding bouncy bassline and virtually no melody except for random noise. The synths are ofton very jagged saw waves and usually has no or little filter cutoff.

Trance on the other hand is much more cleaner sounding and actually more melodic with more rounded sounding synths and a bassline closely in sync with the beat. The "arps" are usually filtered with a low pass filter so all the annoying high frequency's are filtered out that get that "screaming" synth that you ofton hear in techno music. So all you get is a smooth arp for teh harmony or melody.

Also another big difference is techno is usually in the upper 150-180 bpm (beats per minute) which is just fucking annoying. Trance is usually anywere between 120-140 bpm i think.

People many times have confused Trance with techno and sometimes they are dumb enough to say there is no difference. I have had even relatives before ask me "what type of music do you listen to again? Techno?" and they are so fucking stupid because i've told them time after time again that my music is trance and there is a big fucking difference between the two.

So those of you on here that cant tell the difference just remember techno is like fuckng random noise and trance is more melodic and no where as primitive. Surely trance music fans on this board can relate to what i'm talkin about this just bugs the hell out of me.

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you said " Fucking" 5 times in that whole thread, and what did it do for it... made you look dumb :thumbsup:

i think you look just a tad dumb for pointing that out

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Originally Posted by bedake

i think you look just a tad dumb for pointing that out

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No beleive me you look dumb when you use profanity, it's just unneeded, reread his post and everytime he says fucking just eliminate it and it looks much less childish it looks and sounds. I'm not bashing anybody, just giving friendly advice and my 2 cents :)

isnt your username the big coke cartel guy?

everyone swears who cares man

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Originally Posted by pabloescobar209

you said " Fucking" 5 times in that whole thread, and what did it do for it... made you look dumb :thumbsup:

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The teletubbies are so proud of u right now mission accomplished

wow man i feel your pain. i hate when people cant believe that there are subcategories like house and acid. well duh! there are subcategories of rock, why not electronica. and fuck you whoever says they hate techno

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Originally Posted by bedake

isnt your username the big coke cartel guy?

everyone swears who cares man

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beleive me i really don't care... just offering advice on how to be taken seriously, and yes Pablo Escobar was the boss of the biggest columbian coke cartel ever... buy " killing pablo" great documentary.

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Originally Posted by BizzleLuvin

wow man i feel your pain. i hate when people cant believe that there are subcategories like house and acid. well duh! there are subcategories of rock, why not electronica. and fuck you whoever says they hate techno

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indeed

whats even crazier about electronic music is that theres alot of subgenres of sub genres

Acid
Acid Jazz

Breaks
Breaks, Acid
Breaks, Big Beat
Breaks, Chemical
Breaks, Funky
Breaks, House
Chill Out
Electro
Electronica
Experimental
Gabber
Hardcore
Hardstyle
Hip Hop
House
House, Acid
House, Chicago
House, Deep
House, Disco
House, Dub
House, French
House, Funky
House, Hard
House, Minimal
House, Progressive
House, Speed Garage
House, Tribal
House, Turkish
House, Vocal
Jungle
Jungle, Drum & Bass
Jungle, Hardstep
Jungle, Intelligent
Jungle, Jazz
Jungle, Jump Up
Jungle, Techstep
Techno
Techno House
Techno, Detroit
Techno, Minimal Deep
Techno, Minimal Hard
Trance
Trance, Acid
Trance, Breaks
Trance, Goa
Trance, Hard
Trance, Progressive
Trip Hop


do i know the difference of all of em.... no only some

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Originally Posted by bedake

whats even crazier about electronic music is that theres alot of subgenres of sub genres

Acid
Acid Jazz

Breaks
Breaks, Acid
Breaks, Big Beat
Breaks, Chemical
Breaks, Funky
Breaks, House
Chill Out
Electro
Electronica
Experimental
Gabber
Hardcore
Hardstyle
Hip Hop
House
House, Acid
House, Chicago
House, Deep
House, Disco
House, Dub
House, French
House, Funky
House, Hard
House, Minimal
House, Progressive
House, Speed Garage
House, Tribal
House, Turkish
House, Vocal
Jungle
Jungle, Drum & Bass
Jungle, Hardstep
Jungle, Intelligent
Jungle, Jazz
Jungle, Jump Up
Jungle, Techstep
Techno
Techno House
Techno, Detroit
Techno, Minimal Deep
Techno, Minimal Hard
Trance
Trance, Acid
Trance, Breaks
Trance, Goa
Trance, Hard
Trance, Progressive
Trip Hop


do i know the difference of all of em.... no only some

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drum and bass is awesome

They shuldnt have so many subcategories. Who gives a fuck anyway. If you like how a song sounds, listen to it. If you dont, dont listen to it. There should be like only the big categories like rock, hip hop, jazz, classical, techno, gay bitches who cant sing, etc.. whats the point of breaking all those into other categories? There is none. No one goes and says "hey u wanna go listen to some hardcore classical house rock slash jazzblues slash soulhop slash subterrainian suite today?" hell, no one even says "hey wanna go listen to some rock" they just say a band or radio station god damn

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Originally Posted by ibreakthings

They shuldnt have so many subcategories. Who gives a fuck anyway. If you like how a song sounds, listen to it. If you dont, dont listen to it. There should be like only the big categories like rock, hip hop, jazz, classical, techno, gay bitches who cant sing, etc.. whats the point of breaking all those into other categories? There is none. No one goes and says "hey u wanna go listen to some hardcore classical house rock slash jazzblues slash soulhop slash subterrainian suite today?" hell, no one even says "hey wanna go listen to some rock" they just say a band or radio station god damn

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gay bitches who cant sing, etc..


^^^^ lol, thats a big category

lol well they all sound the exact same so you cant argue with me that that category shouldnt have subcategories. right. other ones could though i mean theres a lot of different types of rock, ill admit that.

they shouldent but they do... its like when i told my friend that all the bands he listens to are emo and hes like no they arnt they are <insert brand of shitty music here> thats when i found out emo is an actual music genre now when the fuck did that happen? Ive been using it for a long time as a term for emotional rock that soft shitty and otherwise crappy

i am a fan of progressive house, acid, big beat break, jungle DnB, chicago house, tribal house, chill, and deep house

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Originally Posted by ibreakthings

lol well they all sound the exact same so you cant argue with me that that category shouldnt have subcategories. right. other ones could though i mean theres a lot of different types of rock, ill admit that.

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har har har they all dont sound the same, its like saying pop punk and punk sound the same

For those of you that can download music on your comp I recommend that you download some Neophyte.

yeah when ur a fan u can tell the difference real easily, like rock and rap

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Originally Posted by anycraic

yeah when ur a fan u can tell the difference real easily, like rock and rap

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thats the truth

All the categories and subcategories of electronic music are broken down on Ishkurs Electronic music guide V.2.5 ... http://www.ishkur.com/music/#

Thanks for clearing that up for me man. I have started refraining from using the term techno several months ago (maybe longer), when I realized that none of what I listen to is actually techno, it is all house, trance, and their different forms. Now I know to tell people who tell me that techno sucks that they simply don't know what they are talking about because I don't ever listen to techno and they've got the wrong perspective on the entire electronica genre.

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Originally Posted by IntrepidS

Thanks for clearing that up for me man. I have started refraining from using the term techno several months ago (maybe longer), when I realized that none of what I listen to is actually techno, it is all house, trance, and their different forms. Now I know to tell people who tell me that techno sucks that they simply don't know what they are talking about because I don't ever listen to techno and they've got the wrong perspective on the entire electronica genre.

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Yeah, I don't use the word techno either. I do use "electronica" to cover all the genres, though.

I listen to a lot of both drum & bass and trance, and there are some massive differences in the genres; no, they don't sound the same, nor do they (most of the time) sound even remotely similar. That doesn't only go for seasoned listeners, either; any moron can tell the differences between Paul Van Dyk and say.. Goldie.

To those who'd say music shouldn't be classified: even bands/producers/etc who share an exact genre can sound utterly different, let alone all genres under a partciular category sounding the same. I don't like all genres of electronica. Isn't it easier for me to say which specific genre I don't enjoy, and which ones I do? There's a HUGE world of music out there, and without classifications, it would be harder to find artists whom you know for sure you'd enjoy.

:twocents:

I like progressive house, by DJ's such as Anne Savage, Lisa Lashes and also Tidy Boys.

Euphoric DJ's such as Dave Pearce, Tiesto and Mauro Picotto are also good. Hardhouse Extreme by acts like Dougal and Gammar and various other artists.

No real relevance in this post, but just lettin ya know what sort I like.

techno trance an all electronica is noise to me
real music is stuff like rock n reggae played with real instruments not a jumped up keyboard (synth)

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Originally Posted by smokey

techno trance an all electronica is noise to me
real music is stuff like rock n reggae played with real instruments not a jumped up keyboard (synth)

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Until you see their live shows.......

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Originally Posted by thcbongman

Until you see their live shows.......

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YeaH SLAMMIN VINYL (R.I.P), no instruments used, just pure Bounce!

Fuckin' love it!

Check this track out:

DJ Liquid - I cant stop Raving (An Old Classic)

Enjoy!!!!! :thumbsup:

just listenin to some armin van buuren right now, for those who dont know he's a dutch trance dj, one of the best imho

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Originally Posted by smokey

techno trance an all electronica is noise to me
real music is stuff like rock n reggae played with real instruments not a jumped up keyboard (synth)

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There is no such thing as real music or real instruments.

They both suck in my book :)

Techno sucks.

Trance sounds like techno.

Therefor it sucks.

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Originally Posted by VoidLivesOn

Techno sucks.

Trance sounds like techno.

Therefor it sucks.

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i hate when people say that, but then im always happily aware that they must not be real music lovers, and not know anything about music at all since they cant tell the difference