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i read here http://www.onlinepot.org/medical/vaporizer.htm that smoking weed from a pipe destroys half the THC. i dunno if its true, but they have instructions on how to make a vaporizor, which saves 45 percent of the THC. so if someone tries this out, tell me how well it worked.
I think thats BS
why would a pipe destroy 50% of the THC??
I think the only THC that u lose when u smoke in a bowl is the resin that the smoke make, but i wouldnt say it looses 50% of the thc man its way too much.
I lose alot of THC in my lungs......lol
I thinks its true, because when you burn your weed im sure it destroys some of the THC.
when using a pipe you do lose a good portion of thc more than you do with a vape.
The vape spoke is almost clear because most of the impurities have been removed and its almost pure THC. Because of other chemicals in marijuana smoke...a vape high is much more energetic.
lmao wtfQuote:
Originally Posted by daZenfmeister
this would mean that a joint, a bowl, a bong or anything would burn 50% of the thc
Its just what ive heard damn....
plus you can't put a number on a thing like that, too many variables from piece to piece. and the method of course.
BS!:)
it's not the pipe that destroys the THC, at best it just 'traps' it (resin). the FLAME destroys the THC, and you can make a sub-par makeshift vaporizer by toking with the flame wel laway from the bowl. but that's not infallable of course ;)
well if it does theres no other way to get round it unless u start fassying about with a vaporiser so who gives a shit?? although i dont use pipes. joints all the way
Well, Im getting stoned and that's what matters :)
I don't believe it.
My pipe may take a little, but it gives a lot in return :)
They trying to say bongs make it harder to get high? I mean I'm pretty sure last time I check a good bong beats a good pipe. I think this is just someone making stuff up. Some hard proof would be nice.
See people that is why u don't use pipes or MOST bongs to smoke. They are crap :)
Blunts blunts blunts and more blunts will get you hiiiigh....aint no doubt about it.
i made the vaporizor, it tastes like shit but gets you stoned (better without the water cooled bit)
not much point in trying it, i just threw it away
oh yeah, joints all the way, fatty joints!!
i find i get higher from joints then bowls...because all of the resin tha uilds up is immediatly smoked...so yeah, SMOKE JOINTS!!
For me smoking out of the pipe is the best way, I get more high from smoking from my pipe then i do from a joint. The pipe is the way to go, I conserve my weed more that way too.
It's not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnfcthree
THC Transfer Rate
The MAPS-NORML study provides new information on the efficiency of different devices in delivering THC from marijuana to the user. Previous studies have shown that 60% - 80% of the THC burned in joints or waterpipes is lost in slipstream smoke, adhesion to the pipestem and bowl, pyrolysis, etc. [Mario Perez-Reyes, Marijuana Smoking: Factors that Influence the Bioavailability of Tetrahydrocannabinol, in C. Nora Chiang and Richard Hawks, ed., Research Findings on Smoking of Abused Substances, NIDA Research Monograph 99, 1990]. The percentage of total THC delivered to the user is called the THC transfer rate. The unfiltered joint scored surprisingly well in smoking efficiency, coming in second place with a transfer rate close to 20%. The portable waterpipe did slightly better, and the bong slightly worse. The other devices did notably worse. The vaporizers and electric waterpipe did especially poorly, with transfer rates less than one-third that of the top three devices. Thus, heavy smokers could literally be blowing most of their stash away with bad pipes.
http://www.maps.org/mmj/vaporizer.html
Look at your references. That's five years old. This was on that site.
"September 21, 2000 update: MAPS and CA-NORML are sponsoring a new vaporizer study. Testing and data analysis have been completed. A detailed report will be issued soon. "
The site I posted is the detailed report.
The water depletes the active cannabinoids. I'm gonna look for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brennan
The easiest way for most smokers to avoid harmful smoke toxins may be simply to smoke stronger marijuana. This strategy is apt to be more effective than any smoke filtration device. By simply replacing the low, 2.3% potency NIDA marijuana used in this study with high-quality 12%-sinsemilla, smokers could presumably reduce their tar intake by a factor of five while still achieving the same effect.
Are Waterpipes Counterproductive?
The study results are obviously discomforting to waterpipe enthusiasts, many of whom prefer the cooler, milder smoke they produce, and have naturally assumed it is also more healthful. Unfortunately, however, the study indicates that waterpipes may actually be counterproductive in increasing consumption of carcinogenic tars.
Nonetheless, it is still premature to judge that waterpipes are actually unhealthful, since they may filter out other, non-solid smoke toxins occurring in the gas phase of the smoke, which was not analyzed in the study. Noxious gases known to occur in marijuana smoke include hydrogen cyanide, which incapacitates the lung's defensive cilia; volatile phenols, which contribute to the harshness of the taste; aldehydes, which promote cancer; and carbon monoxide, a known risk factor in heart disease. Previous studies indicate that water filtration may be quite effective in absorbing some of these [Nicholas Cozzi, Effects of Water Filtration on Marijuana Smoke: A Literature Review, MAPS Newsletter, Vol. IV #2, 1993]. If so, waterpipes might still turn out to have net health benefits.
http://www.maps.org/mmj/vaporizer.html