Ionic Nutes?
Anyone tried these b4?
Ive just bought some GROW,BLOOM and BOOST..
did I waste money ?
anything else I need?
you guys tried this brand?
IF no ,,,what do you guys use?
Please :D :confused: :dance: ;)
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Ionic Nutes?
Anyone tried these b4?
Ive just bought some GROW,BLOOM and BOOST..
did I waste money ?
anything else I need?
you guys tried this brand?
IF no ,,,what do you guys use?
Please :D :confused: :dance: ;)
i use grow and bloom with my dwc and have no problems
i dont know about holding the ph steady like it claims because its the only nutes iv used but i dont change my water for some weeks and i dont see problems till about a month by then it flower time and i change
Advanced Nutrients or General Hydroponics.
Ive heard alot about GH!!
Yeskaa ..I'm sorry but.. were you using Ionic.?..if so was it good to the plants..?
you said you didn't play with pH?
yeah im useing Ionic Grow and Ionic Bloom
the PH holds steady in high 6`s ... half streath is what i use
i changed to flower dec25
so i just checked and it was in the high 6`s...i havent used any PH up or down since i went to flower ,,also i use distilled water
and
i just noticed my water level was low so i added half the dosege (two tbsp) to a gallon of distilled and added to top off my DWC bucket
thats perdy much how i roll
luck to ya
Let us know how it goes.
*Does A Hail Mary*
I'm getting different opinions about dosage....Whats a 'standard full strenght' dose?
One thing says 1ml per litre !
another thing says 7ml per litre!!!!
what the fuk?
its not a fuk lol, 7ml per litre is probably what the 'normal' dosage is so you only add half strength for the first 2 weeks of flowering so 3.5ml per litre and then you start adding full strength so 7ml per litre till you flush ( 1 week to 2 weeks before buds are ready to be harvested )
Hope this help! :)
Good Luck & Happy Growing! :thumbsup:
Is that a guess, or do you use IONIC?...If not ...what is the dosage of your brand??? Maybe the're all similar....Quote:
Originally Posted by mafia819
Thanks though :D
Easy, what does the bottle say? See if the company has a web site. Call the company. Different brands WILL be of different concentrations. So it's dangerous to assume that just because one brand says one amount that it is the same for the brand you are using.. If you really don't know then try a small amount and see how the plants are doing. They will tell you what they need.
Directions for Use
To make up IONIC Solution (GROW or BLOOM)
Add IONIC to tap water at the rate of 10 mLs per Litre. Target EC for most applications is 2.0 mS/cm2 .
Check pH of final solution. It should be between 5.8 and 6.3. IONIC has a stabilised pH and it should not require correction. If adjustment is needed use Growth Technology pH UP or pH DOWN and follow instructions carefully.
pH
pH is a measurement of the acidity or alkalinity of a solution. On a scale of 1 - 14 neutrality is represented as 7. The ideal pH for almost all Hydroponic applications is 6. pH for RockWool cultivation should be slightly lower, ideally about 5.8.
IONIC nutrients are especially formulated to ensure that pH is close to 6 when made up with reasonably pure water. Unfortunately water quality varies dramatically from place to place.
You may find therefore that you need to make small adjustments to your nutrient tank from time to time. It is very important to check pH the first time you make up IONIC solution. As long as your reading is within the acceptable range (5.8 â?? 6.3) you need make no adjustments to pH at this time. You should keep a regular check on pH at all times.
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pH Control chemicals are highly toxic and aggressive liquids.
Please follow these simple guidelines for safety and peace of mind.
ALWAYS store these materials in a safe place, preferably in a locked cupboard.
Always keep them out of the reach of children.
ALWAYS wear rubber gloves and protective goggles when handling any aggressive chemicals.
Measuring pH.
This is best done with a meter but there are also various kits using liquids and papers available.
Conductivity
The conductivity of a solution is an expression of the capacity of that solution to conduct an electric current. Distilled or de-ionised water will conduct virtually no electricity at all and will therefore have a conductivity reading of zero. As salts are dissolved in the water so the conductivity of the solution increases. The conductivity of a nutrient solution is therefore a measurement of its â??strengthâ? as indicated by the actual amount of salts dissolved.
Conductivity is usually expressed in terms of CF. cF stands for Conductivity Factor and the units of measurement are usually milliSiemens, microSiemens or Siemens. The difference between these is purely in the placing of the decimal point. There are a thousand microSiemens in a milliSiemen A cF unit is equal to a hundred microSiemens so there are 10 cF units to a milliSiemen.
IONIC Conductivity recommendations.
For almost all applications we recommend a Conductivity around 2 mS/cm2. This will be ideal for passive hydroponics using inert media such as Perlite and GreenMix as well as for active systems such as NFT and Flood & Drain. IONIC can be used at half strength for seedlings and cuttings and also for delicate plants such as ferns and Orchids.
RockWool systems
Plants grown in RockWool slabs need slightly different nutrient regimes than in other systems. pH should be somewhat lower, at 5.8 rather than 6. Conductivity should also be slightly lower than in other applications. It is very important to remember that the readings in the tank may not reflect the reality within the slab. Nutrient should be extracted from the slab regularly for measurement. In a well-maintained system there should not be too much variation between tank readings and those obtained from within slabs. If Conductivity begins to rise in the slab it may be an indication that irrigation is either too infrequent or too short. It is necessary to trickle nutrient into slabs for just long enough to get a 10-15% run off. The timer should be adjusted to provide this amount of nutrient at least four times during the daylight period. More frequent irrigation may be beneficial. Remember that as plants grow they will take up much more nutrient and watering cycle will need to be extended regularly throughout life of the crop. The regular check of nutrient from within the slab itself is the most important routine for the RockWool grower. If the Conductivity begins to rise then the grower will increase irrigation to ensure run off at each watering cycle. If Conductivity remains high then it is a simple matter to flush the slabs.
IONIC BOOST
BOOST is a nutrient supplement designed to be used in the final few weeks before harvest. BOOST allows the grower easy control of the extra Phosphorous and Potassium that can lead to bumper yields. BOOST is an ideal addition to IONIC BLOOM but it can also be used very effectively with any good quality nutrient solution of the BLOOM variety.
Directions for Use
First make up IONIC BLOOM in the normal way. Stir tank thoroughly. Then add BOOST to tank at the rate of 1 Ml per Litre. Stir again, check and correct pH and then use nutrient solution in the normal way. IMPORTANT Resist the temptation to overdose with BOOST. This is a highly concentrated liquid and each 1 mL per Litre that you add will add 50 ppm Phosphorous and 100 ppm Potassium to your nutrient solution.
ANALYSES & Technical Data
IONIC Concentrate diluted 10ml/L
GROW %W/V ppm w/s
HARD WATER
Nitrate-Nitrogen 1.84 184
Ammonium-Nitrogen 0.03 3
Total Nitrogen 2.0 187
Phosphorus 0.31 31
Potassium 2.40 240
Calcium 0.50 50
Magnesium 0.36 36
Sulphur 0.10 10
Iron 0.03 3.0
Manganese 0.01 0.9
Boron 0.003 0.3
Zinc 0.003 0.3
Copper 0.002 0.2
Molybdenum 0.0010 0.01
Cobalt 0.0005 0.05
Nickel 0.0005 0.05
EC at 1:100 1.9 mS/cm2
TDS at 1:100 1593 mg/L TDS
% NH4-N 3.8 % of total N
pH 5.8 to 6.3
K:N = 1.28
IONIC Concentrate diluted 10ml/L
BLOOM %W/V ppm w/s
HARD WATER
Nitrate-Nitrogen 1.96 196
Ammonium-Nitrogen 0.03 3
Total Nitrogen 2.0 199
Phosphorus 0.62 62
Potassium 3.25 325
Calcium 0.45 45
Magnesium 0.4 40
Sulphur 0.10 10
Iron 0.03 2.5
Manganese 0.01 0.9
Boron 0.002 0.2
Zinc 0.002 0.2
Copper 0.0013 0.13
Molybdenum 0.0005 0.05
Cobalt 0.0005 0.05
Nickel 0.0005 0.05
EC at 1:100 2.0 mS/cm2
TDS at 1:100 1770 mg/L TDS
% NH4-N 3.8 % of total N
pH 5.8 to 6.3
K:N = 1.63
IONIC Concentrate diluted 10ml/L
GROW %W/V ppm w/s
Nitrate-Nitrogen 2.4 239
Ammonium-Nitrogen 0.2 22
Total Nitrogen 2.6 261
Phosphorus 0.4 40
Potassium 3.302 330
Calcium 1.3 130
Magnesium 0.32 32
Sulphate 0.40 40
Iron 0.039 3.9
Manganese 0.011 1.1
Boron 0.003 0.26
Zinc 0.003 0.26
Copper 0.0013 0.13
Molybdenum 0.00065 0.065
Cobalt 0.00065 0.065
Nickel 0.00065 0.065
EC at 1:100 2.2 mS/cm2
TDS at 1:100 1992 mg/L TDS
% NH4-N 8.5 % of total N
pH 5.8 to 6.3
K:N = 1.4
IONIC Concentrate diluted 10ml/L
BLOOM %W/V ppm w/s
Nitrate-Nitrogen 2.3 227
Ammonium-Nitrogen 0.1 9
Total Nitrogen 2.4 236
Phosphorus 0.8 81
Potassium 3.835 384
Calcium 1.3 130
Magnesium 0.32 32
Sulphate 0.40 40
Iron 0.039 3.9
Manganese 0.011 1.1
Boron 0.003 0.26
Zinc 0.003 0.26
Copper 0.0013 0.13
Molybdenum 0.00065 0.065
Cobalt 0.00065 0.065
Nickel 0.00065 0.065
EC at 1:100 2.3 mS/cm2
TDS at 1:100 2028 mg/L TDS
% NH4-N 3.8 % of total N
pH 5.8 to 6.3
K:N = 1.7
Sorry that's from there web site. I don't use them but doesn't sound too hard . You can try half and work up.. Watch the leaves for burning.
Shit .....!
Dude I feel like I owe you a drink.... :thumbsup:
Trith is I've been on the site and got the lowdown.But they say 10 ml...the bottle has a diagram which says 1 ml[But I'mthinking that is a diagram of their BOOST additive to advertise it]...The shop gave me a shedule which said 7 ml.....so 7 ml is probably what i'm going to aim for and play it by ear thereafter !! :thumbsup:
Do you guys use a BOOST?
Do you guys use SILICONE?
I thought I'd seen IONIC on this site ,hence why I bought it in the shop...But it looks the part and the stoner behind the checkout desk said "they're all the same man"...so fuk it :)
I had that same problem when I went into a hydroponics store. I didn't know what to ask for and had to rely on their help. I wound up with $100 of stuff that I didn't need.
my bottles say some technical jargon i dont look at
but also put it in terms i can understand ..lol---> 4-5 teaspoons per gallon
i always use half that to be safe
Yo Yesk'...do these nutes produce nice results???Quote:
Originally Posted by yeskaa
Fat yeilds are big 'yes yes' :thumbsup:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Roller
i have nothing to compare them to those are only nutes iv used since i started Hydro.
but i guess yeild w0uld depend on the grower :confused: :D