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a plane... end of story
it was a plane but not the one they said it were watch and learn
Fellas..
I live in Northern VA across the river from DC not too far from the Pentagon.
I assure you that it was the plane that everyone read about.
Look, I'm up for entertaining conspiracy theories for fun as much as anyone.
HOWEVER..conspiracy theories with absolutely no evidence to support them except for random quotes from random people aren't to be believed or even entertained.
The fact is the great misconception is that the American Government is capable of pulling off these massive cover-ups and hoaxes (i.e. the moon landing, 9/11) for some sinister ulterior motive.
This is GREATLY overestimating the reach and power of the American government which like any other, does not exist in a vaccum and is full of people who constantly are trying to out politic one another to further their own careers or the ideology of the party they belong to.
Not to say that there haven't been cover-ups and secret dealings and events in the past, but there is NO possible way that the government could engineer or even try to mislead the american public in such a way. There are too many people watching and they all are not all on the same side.
This is giving Bush WAAAY to much credit. The man's an idiot, his cabinet is devious and did mislead the world with their evidence for invading Iraq and guess what?
Everybody knows that it was bullshit even before the first shot was fired.
One, a plane could not go that deep in to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by pabloescobar209
the WTC they let you see the planes hit it.
A plane would not make the hole in the dirt like that. that looks like the missiles that hit thing in V nam.
:confused: How is it, the person that was flying it is still alive? :confused:
and 8 or 9 of the others are still alive???
Bush had some people in the pentagon that did not go with his shit so he had to do, them in...
Whatever...
All of a sudden everyones an industrial engineer and an expert on blast formations by looking at some photos.
Believe what you want. Fucking aliens did it.
Ever hear of Occam's razor?? No? Well HE did it.
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Originally Posted by motahead
forensic science on blast formations [was what I did in the military for a long time sorry about that]
It was a missle
It was a flying saucer :D LMAO
Na man, I seriously doubt it. Have faith in the UFO thing though. Only a few of the most famous sighting really convince me... But here's me take on the whole thing: if they know anything, I say they're as clueless about it as we are. Hell, we're just humans... Reverse Engineering? Pssst. :)
well first of all, just because a site says "see this indentation and this mark, no plane could do that!" doesn't make it so. the makers are basing these "facts" on assumption, they're not experts.
second: none of us, including me, know shit about what a 7-57 can penetrate and do, it's not like a lot of testing as been done on this.
third: really consider the logistics of a missile hitting the pentagon. people would have seen it flying overhead, missiles make a very loud and distinctive noise as they fly, especially when decending. plus they don't just have a big pile of missiles to throw around, these are big, serious, expensive weapons. every single weapon, especially something that big, has to be accounted for, and hundreds of people are involved in maintaining or serving around these weapons. and, all the fire and police crews got plenty of opportunity to go through the wreckage.
please explain. they have done it before and most likely will do it again, watch that entire video its quite assuring that it was indeed a missile, like check out the pic of a perfect hole in the building dont try and tell me a gigantic plane did thatQuote:
Originally Posted by motahead
Then why won't they release the tapes? When it actually happened why weren't a bunch of hayseeds on the news screaming, "HOLYEEEEEEEE SHEEEEEEEIIIIIT I SAW ME A BIG OLE GAL DERN PLANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Because they don't want people freaking out, it's really pretty simple.
Oh yea, Bush plotted 9/11...OH YEA......it was a missle....OH YEA........that cup of kool-aid was good.
Fuck that you can't stop Hayseeds from getting on the news. Remember when the space shuttle broke apart over East Texas? Hayseeds love getting on the news and if they had seen a plane they would have found a way.Quote:
Originally Posted by RastaKaze
NO IT WASN'T!!! I like the tropical kool-aid, fuck that red shit :D
FUCKING LIES!!! yea i know, the tropical has a sweet..yet tangy taste, very good..
Well, it's like I always say: People will beleive whatever they need to in order to get a little fame...Quote:
Originally Posted by Das Boot
Ya man, just look at Dr.Phil...believes helping people is a good thing...hes only in it for the fame...Quote:
Originally Posted by RastaKaze
I assure all of you that it was a over sized blind pigeon
end of story
Cause it was a Fuckin Plane man!
Conspiracy theory my arse, it happened, face facts. Believe what you have seen!
Take it Easy!
Dr. Phil is a disgrace. I think it's horrible how he puts down his guests and stuff, It's like he's more mentally unstable then his patients... Who the fuck is this bald ass texan to tell people how to manage relationships??? Please...Quote:
Originally Posted by Junket
first off it could not have been a missle, why... cuz a missle wouldn't penetrate that far into a building, it would blow up as soon as it hit the first wall. second no way was it a 757 plane, that would have left a whole lot more mess, thirdly i was in the RAF cadets and studied everything from plane design to what to do if ur plane enters a flat spin and have also piloted a couple of light planes so i know that that was not a passenger jet, im not a conspiracist but something is definately not right there
yea no one wants to hear that shit man!
you need to get passed that, cause no ass is worth thinking that much about...i always say...
I once heard a rumour (I really have no proof whatsoever) that it was a truck loaded with explosives that hit the wall.
I don't believe it actually:) The missile thing seems more possible.
Yes, that perfect circle hole in the wall... must prove it all.
Or the picture of the perfect blasted out hole is a picture from something else.
I dont really care what happened. All I know is someone is paying dearly for it, and quite honestly it feels good.
Call me a bastard and ban me from these oh so peaceful pot loving forums.
I once heard a rumour that it was Flying Pigs that brought the Twin Towers down! (I have no proof whatsoever)Quote:
Originally Posted by Blowboy
I don't believe it actually. The Plane thing seems more possible!
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OMG :rolleyes: :error: :rolleyes:
Really though, OMG!!!!
LOL they moved it over here
well u obviously didnt study about how the pentagon is the strongest building in the world after they remodeled it.. luckily the plane hit a side that had been done already minimizing damage... put it this way when the remodeled "they used windows so strong that they realized after installation that the windows were stronger than the walls, so they had to make the walls stronger"Quote:
Originally Posted by Wesley Pipes
::hands out tin foil hats::
Im sorry i cant resist it-----The govt & its corporate media should of handed out tinfoil hats when they were telling there bullshit conspiracy theory about what happened on 911---Los esclavos nunca preguntan alli dumbasses del fuckin de los lideres :thumbsup: Im fuckin tired of being lied 2-I just want the truth for once --- Our govt, the public school systems and religion, have done an outstanding job in making us obey and not question what goes on around us.. :twocents:
yeah, the biggest conspiracy theory of them all is the 19 freedom hating muslims who didn't know how to fly...whose sole motive is their hatred for freedom...
the thing is that were is the plane man that was a big fukin plane man wereis the reckage man. http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main so now youve watched tell me wre and they wountnt try it in britian we demand the truth someone would get fucked for a lie like that.
nowcometaeglesgaandtellalielikethatmanandyouwouldg etslashed
interesting...Quote:
Originally Posted by Myth1184
hey look who's back! it's tholiak!
very interesting...
LOL^^^^
interesting....
but seriously guys, have most of you been so dumbed down that you can't see that everything has been faked?
Every top aeronautical engineer and pilot have agreed that the "boeing" moved to smoothly when banking the turn and that it would be impossible for a terrorist who barely could fly a cessna to handle so expertly.
but hey, i guess it's a sensible theory that 19 hijackers slipped onto planes without being detected with the gas masks and box cutters and electronic guidance systems on them, and then proceeded to fly not one...not two....not even three...but four huge commercial airlines off of their courses, flying each one with the skill of the red baron.
It makes perfect sense that they outwitted the entire Air Force and intelligence community all while they boast at being the best in the world.
But here i go with my nutball loony bin theories that a hugely wealthy and funded American Government populated by scores of over-privileged brats who spent their entire lives shirking responsibility and being taught that those with less money than you are next to nothing, couldn't possibly use their infinite resources to concoct a plan in order to make even more money for themselves.
Yep, the loving government populated by coke heads and drunks and military deserters could NEVER possibly think it was okay to kill a few lower-class citizens in order to further their own selfish agendas and legacies. Nope, not here. Rich people care about everyone. Havnt you ever been to the Hamptons or Beverly Hills or the slopes of Aspen? Everybody's welcome!
Yeh, and screw that idea. The government is way to big with too many people vying for power. You couldnt keep something big like that quiet.
You sure couldnt. But the few men who literally hold all the real power could.
contd post...
you think that just because some agent mulder wannabe in the FBI holds any real salt?they take their orders and follow them just as any soldier. Of course their probably fed the same bullshit we are...freedoms yadda yadda....muslims hate the whole world...blah blah...support the troops...ding dong....
so it's important to remember that after the "plane" hit the pentagon, the FBI agents who rushed to the local stores to yank their surveillance tapes mere minutes after the crash instead of actually "figuring out what happened" werent in some secret society like the Skulls, they were men and women ordered to secure those tapes because the Pentagon had been attacked and noone "knew" what was going on.
Jesus Christ...what are you guys smoking?
very interesting...
You know what, however it happened, the fact remains ( well I believe it is a fact) that the government was behind it, doesn't matter how crazy that sounds, I believe it with every fiber of my being. Oh well, whatever, that's what they do, pull shit and use it to their advantage, nothing new. Personally, I think they paid the terrorists to do it. But believe what you want. I think the govt is determined to make this country what they want it to be by any means necessary. They're using this to justify taking away as many rights as possible, to justify spying on everyone. It sure as hell is working to their advantage if you ask me.
Ya and the 19 cavemen told NORAD to stand down as well--And and told Mayor Willy Brown no to fly on 911---and that dude that was with Porter Goss on 911 who wired 100,000 dollars to Mohamned Atta--Our public school system did a heck of a job along with TV and religion....but as long as every1 is happy & dandy, then its all ok..
and oz-wald was the lone gunman that killed JFK and Jack rubbyslippers was mad so he killed ozwald out of revenge for JFK- I side tracked from the thread my bad