those of you who will not give your lives for freedom: DIE

I AM FUCKING SERIOUS HERE!!!

if you people DO NOT care about freedom, if you do not care about our government constantly succeding in taking away our freedoms, if you do not believe in being self sufficient, and stop relying on the government, DIE.


those of you who want to continue to rely on big corperations for materialistic things you want, DIE.


i am SICK and FUCKING tired of hearing about how some stoner got sentenced to life for selling a nug to his kid neighbor!

i am SICK AND FUCKING TIRED! why do we have to treat free will with prejudicy?!? why is it wrong for a person to smoke some crack, take LSD, or get stoned?!? why do you have to make preemptive strikes against people for the fear that they might break a law under the influence?!?


the only logical solution is to give harsher sentences to those under the influence, fuck the substance, they CHOSE to take it, they can SUFFER the consequences of their own ACTIONS thereafter, but if they dont act, they get high as fuck on crack, and dont DO anything, WHAT DID THEY GET ARRESTED FOR?!?

we MUST do anything and EVERYTHING we can to fight back! we cant just let the feds walk all over us anymore!!!

why do you not care about freedom?!?
why are you not protecting your rights?!?



im not going to go down a one man army and look like a derranged lunatic!!! :mad:




no... no, you know what? fuck it, i dont need anyone's help in organizing a successful revolution, i'll just hitch a ride to DC and assassanate the president with a pistol[/sarcasm]

Fucking Right. Read my fucking Sig!!!!!

We are reaching the end of an era, your revolution will soon come. Have faith.

Inform people, spread a pure message derived from a stable base of arguments, time will be on your side. And mankind. Eventually.

>< it's not coming soon enough, and by the time it DOES come, they'll have ammassed so much money, they'll BUY the terrorists they created for support!


you dont HONNESTLY think we're being attacked by terrorists do you?!?


you think the pocket media is being truthful? well... they might think they are, but i can assure, the only threat to the united states right now, and tomorrow, and next elections, is the US government.


copyright laws + corperation = Monarchy...


actually, all it takes is copyright laws, and you have become a corperation, if you can OWN something FREE, like the DEA has a copyright on hemp, you can make ANY law to protect your investment.


MONARCHY!

You have to let all the ones who ruined this country die first. The baby boomers.

my dear friend i was as outraged as you, but when you steadily clarify your vision and build up on 'ethical' ammo, you see that further violence or one-sided force is utterly futile.

and yes, they are lying to us, worst thing is that they're doing it for the world to see.
it's the pattern of lies that isn't clear to us yet.
but Bush is starting to lose his grip, voices emerge from the masses and people start seeing bits and pieces of that pattern.
again, only time will tell. in the mean time, try to help your fellow man for he needs it
peace

i did, they arent helping, they helpped ruin it, they deserve to die too, they werent putting forth their lives to protect freedom.

and, don't forget to smile :)

ow wait, shadow wolf, you really can't blame the masses man, that's not right. those who are willing to give up rights to attain liberty, do not deserve that liberty. even if that right is to not belong to an angry mob trying to overthrow society.

it will be a hard, arduous turnaround for all of us, just like current times treat us rough too. (and in first place all those people who are dying from lack of food.)

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my dear friend i was as outraged as you, but when you steadily clarify your vision and build up on 'ethical' ammo, you see that further violence or one-sided force is utterly futile.

and yes, they are lying to us, worst thing is that they're doing it for the world to see.
it's the pattern of lies that isn't clear to us yet.
but Bush is starting to lose his grip, voices emerge from the masses and people start seeing bits and pieces of that pattern.
again, only time will tell. in the mean time, try to help your fellow man for he needs it
peace

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this has been going on for a century now!


this has been 100 long years of underhandedness in the government! the bush regime is only the newest installment of an age old underground attack on freedom!!!


next elections are the next installment! the underground owns the government, and they are buying off every official, and kicking out the "potentially dangerous" ones.

and i dont intend to go fighting, we will not fire the first shot, but if it comes right down to it, we must fire the last.


they will kill me before i am imprisoned, they will kill me before i allow them to take my freedom, and i will fight them with the intent to die if they try.


and i hope to HEVEN AND HELL that YOU ALL WILL TOO.


it's the only way to make anyone see that they are attackign peaceful freedom.

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ow wait, shadow wolf, you really can't blame the masses man, that's not right. those who are willing to give up rights to attain liberty, do not deserve that liberty. even if that right is to not belong to an angry mob trying to overthrow society.

it will be a hard, arduous turnaround for all of us, just like current times treat us rough too. (and in first place all those people who are dying from lack of food.)

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i cant blame them for the losses of freedom, but i CAN AND WILL blame them for not fighting for their rights to thereof.

What a combination we have in office.

Dick & Bush.

It took the Egyptian Slaves 2000 goddamned years to resolve their oppression. 100 years of luxury problems is bullshit.

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It took the Egyptian Slaves 2000 goddamned years to resolve their oppression. 100 years of luxury problems is bullshit.

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the difference, however, is in populace density.


2000 years over 5000 people, as compaired to 100 years over 1 billion people.


i think WE balance out the timespan...

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i cant blame them for the losses of freedom, but i CAN AND WILL blame them for not fighting for their rights to thereof.

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interesting. that question will certainly be asked when the shit hits the fan. there are precedents though. Check the Nuerenberg files!!!

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i cant blame them for the losses of freedom, but i CAN AND WILL blame them for not fighting for their rights to thereof.

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You have to keep in mind that children and the eldery cannot fight.

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the difference, however, is in populace density.


2000 years over 5000 people, as compaired to 100 years over 1 billion people.


i think WE balance out the timespan...

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Again point very well taken. The timewave Zero theory by McKenna suggests that populace density speeds up social evolution by each unit that it passes.

okay, im all calmed down now, no one needs to die... well... i'll think about that...



but anyways, we seriousely need to get organized.


this MUST be a MASSIVE protest if we wish to get ANY results.


the primary theme, so as to provoke the opposition, is the freedom and right to persue happyness.


this means we need nudists. we need stoners. we need all the illegal happynesses, and people who like them.

and we need to go straight to DC, together, nude stoned and having a blast.

and when they try to arrest us, we will fight for suicide over imprisonment.

we cannot live without our rights, so we must die trying to get them.


and once again, those who dont want to give your life for freedom, you deserve to die.


no no, we'll ship you off to iraq.

why should I give my life for something that's supposed to be free?
Freedom isn't supposed to cost anything.

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why should I give my life for something that's supposed to be free?
Freedom isn't supposed to cost anything.

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freedom isn't free, no there's a hefty fucking fee.

@Stoner, just get out there, like i do, help every person you see in need, in essence, you ARE creating their world. You are fighting the SAME battle, marching to DC is not the way to go. That will be kept for the victory march.
And do not kill anyone.

And fuck yes a massive shoutout, or peaceful non-risk activity should be planned. Don't provoke though, a lot of people are still indoctrinated by the Big Guns.

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why should I give my life for something that's supposed to be free?
Freedom isn't supposed to cost anything.

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you're right freedom SHOULD be free, but so long as there are oppressors, it never will be.

(edit) oh, nevermind.

You NEVER have the right to kill, hurt or destroy. But hey, that's my fucking naieve way of looking at shit. Shoot me for it.

dayumn, this thread is going at light speed.

but yeah, let's organize something.

Goddamned i have such a hard time soothing people in both camps.
"These fucking hippie stoners bastard ruining society goddamn junkies"
And i'm there SHITTING to him "No, calm down, understand, no need to hurt anyone"

and then the angry stoners in the other corner
"Goddamned these government fucks taking away our liberties"
And i'm there going "No, calm down, violence leads to hatred, an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind"

But you know what? It IS going to lead to an all-out fucking monster of an erradication nuke-bombing fucking hell-situation. And then we face our own ravage.

"Affirmative Action"

fucking fundamentalist narrow-minded retarded disrespectful stupid shits avoiding the solution "by all means necessary"

:mad: there ya have it, the little bitch peacelover is mad

look for the GODDAMN logic

the way I see it, it's impossible to try to make both sides happy.
For both sides to be happy, there needs to be a balance.
There can't be a balance when they both have very polar views.

that's exactly what i'm talking about, if you can't strive for balance, you're fucked either way. and no the chaos of the universe does make us a chaotic society per se.

i dotn want to fight, not at all, i want to die.

i want them to kill me for being free.


that is the protest.



i will fight back when they try to imprison me, but i will fight with the goal of dying, i wont hurt them much, just enough to stay free untill they kill me.

So what you're basically saying is you are bulletmeat?
I would not clog their rifles, i would fight the manufacterer in court, then motion a gun-ban.
and please dude, don't be negative in such a dark way. you seem to be a smart guy, so the world needs you. you may feel useless up until the moment your task reveals itself to you. if not, there is 1 task that will always remain, preserve yourself, preserve your surroundings.

enough talk-let's organize something.
I've seen these discussions hundreds of times and nothing ever gets done.
Let's make this website part of history.
Let's organize.

i sent an e mail to NORML ranting... see if they cant help us.


im willing to go the distance, are you?


i have no money, and no means of supporting myself, but i dont need that to fight. i just need a ride :D

Let's start a revolution

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i sent an e mail to NORML ranting... see if they cant help us.


im willing to go the distance, are you?


i have no money, and no means of supporting myself, but i dont need that to fight. i just need a ride :D

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lol, same here.
I'm thinking about emailing michael moore, to see what he has to say about the legalization movement in general.

(Edit) I think I'll write it tonight, in fact.

i emailed him a couple of times, and a member of his staff complimented us on our website we have in belgium.

hell yeah, let's get all the celebs in on it too, robin williams, willie nelson, drew carey, woody harrelson (did i spell that right? :D), Tommy chong and so on...


well... chong might be old and ready to quit the fight :(


but i hope there's still fire im that guy too :D

give me e mails i'll send stuff out :)

www.blokwatch.be by the way, for the belgians :p

it's a site opposing a political party in our country called "Vlaams Belang" translation: Flemish Front. it's a rightwinged bitch of a party compiled of ex-collaborating sons of bitches.

great, if more people email him, I'm sure we could draw his attention.
And with his attention, we've got the media's attention.