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ive recently started working out alot more.
i smoke probably 3 or 4 bowls a day.
so far i havent noticed any extreme shortness of breath or anything extreme, but if i continue working out at this pace, is weed going to slow me down or stop me? I use a waterbong which helps a little, but i know it isnt candycanes and lollipops that im putting in my lungs. do you think itll become an issue?
Start vaporizing.
cannabis is one of natures best lung expectorants. Any pollution in your lungs caused by dust, air pollution, tobacco, or phlegm, will be ejected with a hit or two of good cannabis. Many marathon runners will use cannabis for this purpose.
dai*ma
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Originally Posted by Tmar.aLL.DaYmar
That is good Tmar!! I am doing the same thing and if you continue to exercise, you won't suffer from lung problem or heart pressure or whatever...Smoking pot and exercising is the best thing to do for health!! you will maybe rise your lung capacity a lil slower, and progress a lil slower but you will never lose what you've earned...
Keep up the exercise, it's with that kind of attitude we'll get pot legalised! :dance:
no, weed is the most therapeutically safe substance
It's smoke, people. A pollyanna-ish promotion of cannabis is less convincing than an honest approach including positive and negative aspects. I don't claim any level of expertise on the matter, but often what I see posted on this forum is overly zealous and misleading.
ya the smoke can't be beneficial to your health, but if you were to vaporize or cook with cannabis, im sure you wouldn't notice ill effects.
I smoke mass weed like hour sessions, then i go eat. I was talkinto my friends dad who is a doctor and he said is u go sit in a steam room it totally purifies your lungs like it was as if u never smoked at all
To vincevaper...,
we have heard the negatives about cannabis for 7 decades now in america. It's nice to read the views of those who actually use the plant and share their experience.
Not enough drugwar propaganda gore for you? By mixing in lies we have been told that may give one a "negative"opinion about it isnt something i want to see in my recipe.
If you have some FACTUAL negatives that you would like to share then you should post them forall to read. If you want to question the "positive" experience we all seem to have(unless its being arrested), that seems like paranoia on your part.
dai*ma
Corporate manufactured propaganda will cause defects in the brain.
I have smoked pot for 3 years or so, everyday, 3 or 4 bowls a day, quit drinking and all other drugs over 2 years ago, and am in the best shape of my life at 24 with 8 percent body fat.
To anyone who says Smoking ganja will get you out of shape, and fat and lazy..its un true, government propaganda like DAIMA said.
Of course... what was I thinking? The carcinogens produced from burning matter are healthful for the lungs. Ever since vaporizing, mine have gotten weaker from lack of smoke. I must have been misinformed. Thank you, Daima. It's people like you who give pot smokers a good name.
i've been smokin every day for 3 yrs and i had a lot more stamina than non smokers in b-ball before i got kicked out for smoking it (and drinking vodka with some teammates in a hotel room) :)
VinceVapor - Any thing that is smoked will be unhealthy for you. YES WE GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
Buts its also unhealthy to binge 10 beers and 2 shots of Tequilla also. And pretty much everyone in the world does that recreationally. So what the fuck is your arguement, we should all vaporize? Fuck that...I dont like the high vaporizers give me and so do alot of other people...the only time I use them is when Im sick.
Otherwise bong rips are the way to go...yeah I get some smoke in my lungs and I LOVE IT. I get to taste the full flavor of my herbs. MODERATION is KEY to anything....trust me..I just started learning this....and I agree with it.
The point is truth and awareness. Propoganda is propoganda whether it's corporate manufactured or not.
The original poster asked specifically about the effects of smoking on the lungs. Delude yourself if you like, even while admitting to using a vaporizer when sick.
Trust you? nuh uh. Moderation is a good thing, but more important is to know the risks you take so that you can weigh the benefits against them. Then you make a choice. This is true with many legal prescriptions.
If anyone is worried about smoke on the lungs, then they wouldn't even be at this site, they should go to health sites or something. There is TONS of info there on working out. He wanted to know about blazing chronic and working out...you can't get that answer at the health sites.
There has been indepth studies done by MD. Taskins of UCLA, americas foremost lung expert when it come to marijuana smoke. While there are irritants in any smoke, cannabis smoke causes mild irritation to the large airways of the lungs. Symptoms completely disappear when smoking is dicontinued. However, unlike tobacco smoke, cannabis smoke does not cause any damage in the small airways of the lungs. This is the area where tobacco smoke cause long term and permanent damage to the lungs. A cannabis user may smoke 3-5 joints per day. A tobacco user may smoke 20-60 cigarettes per day. Tobacco tars contain radiation. Cannabis tars do not. It was in 1969 that Dr. Taskins was told by government studies that by the year 2000 the usa would literally see hundreds of thousands of cases of lung cancer showing up in clincis across america. Dr. Taskins science and research painted a different out come. To this day there have been no cases of lubg caccer documented to a person who uses(ed) cannabis only. Todays reasearch shows us that THC is good to destroy or greatly reduce the size of tumors. The Dr.s research, which still holds water today tells us there is no concern cannabis users should have when it comes to developing emphysema. Unlike tobacco users. His study concluded that if tobacco users were to quit smoking tobacco and replace it with cannabis that they would add 10-15 years on to their lives.
sources: National center for atmospheric reasearch; American Lung Association: U.S. Surgeon Generals Office;National Academy of Science;
UCLA;Harvard University;Crancer Study(funded 6 million usa dollars)
Take it easy Viperguy. Inhale truth and reasearch instead of decades of lies and propaganda and you too will have a healthier set of lungs.
dai*ma :thumbsup:
moderation kills the spirit.
dai*ma :p
"well he's eighty years old with a flour sack cape tied all around his head
he's still jumpin off the garage and will be till he's dead
all the neighbors say he's acting like a kid
he did not know he could not fly
and so he did
He's one of those who knows that life is just a leap of faith
spread your arms and hold your breath and always trust your cape"
That's a great argument for cannabis over tobacco, but it avoids the question that was initially asked.
Look over in the lounge for a more balanced pro-cannabis post from beachguyinthongs. He quotes more complete findings.
I have to say that anyone who has to be convinced that inhaling smoke is more stressful on the lungs than not inhaling smoke either has never smoked anything themselves, or... Be well. Go forth and spread ignorance veiled as propaganda veiled as insight.
...and my lungs are just fine thank you. I vaporize.
so are mine. i don't vaporize :)
propaganda is propaganda not matter what?
My god son !!! if you dont see the difference between corporate sponsored propaganda and the rest of the bs we are told by a less deadly force of propaganda than i cant help you. I cant tell you what to see, but i can tell you which way the wind is blowing. The whole war against cannabis and those who use it is corporate sponsored. It is not sponsored by science.
I am 48. I have never drank booze. I have never used tobacco. I dont use mind altering substances besides cannabis. I am in excellent shape. No morning cough. Cholesterol is about 154. My lungs, according to my md @ Stanford University are as healthy as they can be. I workout 4 days a week and run and bike ride the days i dont go to the gym. As my hobbies i kayak, rock climb and play music. I never miss work due to cannabis intoxication.
I am a single parents, with two grandkids. I took my first toke of cannabis @ 15 and have practically used cannabis daily for decades. I have been completely honest about my use with my kids and have never hid it from them or felt the need to lie to them about it. Is there a hidden danger i should be looking for now? 5'11 180 lbs, and physically fit and work my ass off. I jyst love it when i hear people say " becareful. Cannabis could possibly hurt you". LMAO welcome to planet earth , where the possibiltites of being hurt are endless.
dai*ma :thumbsup:
To know what you prefer instead of humbly saying amen to what the world tells you you ought to prefer, is to have kept your soul alive :rasta:
News Flash!!!!!!!!
Santa is only going Ho Ho !!! Santa done lost a ho !!!!! Where did the other ho go ? i dont know. If you see one of Santa's ho's please call 1-800-lost ho
dai*ma :mad:
No that is a great argument on cannabinoid being a + over bad health condition...So the question was answered...if you exercise and blaze you will get no harm from blazing, truely, i've tested over a period of 5 years now...My health is my number one concern, why am i smoking? It changes nothing to it's condition...It doesn't enhance it, it just changes nothing as long as you keep on moving, exercising, taking "shower of steam", walking outdoors...So don't get upset upon people when they post something that is maybe not true, instead pull out some facts (please not something in a newspaper) from your personnal live and we will listen to you...If you start arguing with argument that has no foundation, then just don't say nothing and listen to others...Quote:
Originally Posted by vincevaper
Peace out :dance:
Well, yes... by definition. Your lack of capacity for objectivity exhibited by this question says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by daima
you raise two kids and get back to me on what capacites i may or may not have, and then tell me once again the depths of my objectivity.
I would suggest to you that if your arent going to use that space that lies beneath your face that you should find something else to do with it besides allowing other to post their ideas on it. ya dig?
dai*ma :stoned:
Hey lil,buddy
dont get angry
oh god, please at least not at me
you know that i am right behind you all the way ol'compadre
you just say what ever you want too and i'll agree
*beep* *beep* *beep* NEWS FLASH !!!!!
A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.
We now take you back to you being regularly programed. Imean regular programing...i mean regular program. And remember....only users lose drugs.
off subject...remember, and like you said before, the question is "is weed going to slow me down or stop me" regarding his fitness programm...Quote:
Originally Posted by vincevaper
stop bashing on someone's credibility, you are proving nothing there and it doesn't help the guy at the top of the thread...if you need to let the stress out there is the politic forum! but for now, i think daima proved soemhow that smoking and exercising can go along together...i've proved it to myself too...So please bring facts, and if you don't have some you don't need to try to have one!
Peace out :dance:
Precisely how was my earlier post "off subject?"
You and DAIMA with your selective quoting. Hey, let me give it a try!
"I use a waterbong which helps a little, but i know it isnt candycanes and lollipops that im putting in my lungs."
I'm guessing that if either of you had anything of importance to say you'd be better at debating your points and less ready to vomit out insults. I'm only exposing the lack of substance. You do well enough bashing your own credibility.
Ponder these questions:
- When you suggest using a "shower of steam," what effect or symptom from smoking is intentionally being countered?
- Why is it that many patients of medicinal cannabis choose vaporizers and claim an inability to manage smoke inhalation?
Now for the requested personal story (so unecessary, but you asked):
When recently I returned to cannabis, I used a friends bong. After a couple of months I did notice that my chest felt heavier, I had phlegm at the back of my throat and occasionally coughed in the mornings. It was definitely attributable to my smoking. I looked into vaporizers and settled on a low-tech introductory method with the idea that I would eventually go high-tech if it was satisfactory. This resulted in elimination of all symptoms mentioned above. I also have been lifting weights for many years.
I still do smoke on the odd occasion as it can be fun and more sociable. But for my regular partaking there is no other choice after discovering the benefits of vaporizing (health and conservation of weed). Certainly, if I were an athlete I would never consider smoking as an option when there is such a happy alternative.
I can't vouch for his sources, but here are some quotes from beachguy's myths post (under "fact") in the lounge:
"Frequent marijuana smokers experience adverse respiratory symptoms from smoking, including chronic cough, chronic phlegm, and wheezing. However, the only prospective clinical study shows no increased risk of crippling pulmonary disease (chronic bronchitis and emphysema)."
"There are no epidemiological or aggregate clinical data suggesting that marijuana-only smokers develop lung cancer. However, since some bronchial cell changes appear to be pre-cancerous, an increased risk of cancer among frequent marijuana smokers is possible."
There are good aspects and bad aspects like many things in life, which little DAIMA will learn as she grows up. The bad aspects are not necessarily horrible or cause for great alarm, but they are there and should be acknowledged in any honest discussion. That's something you would do well to remember, David, as you gather your coalition of dumb pot smokers. Class dismissed.
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Originally Posted by Tmar.aLL.DaYmar
I smoke 2 packs of cigs a day and it doesn't really bother me. If jacks don't stop me, ganja surely won't stop you.
You will eventually get diminishing returns working out at your pace, but just switch up your routine. But at the end of the day, ganja helps replenish your body.
It's real off subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by vincevaper
He asked those that exercise whether ganja slows your down. It doesn't necessarily have to be by lungs, but by amotivation. When you stated I have no expertise on the subject isn't that an admission of lack of creditibility?
Everyone knows that anything smoked can damage your lungs
We heard all the "facts" before. But guess what? Experience overrides facts in context of the question he asks.
It doesn't take a moron to see your an anagonist.
THCBONGMAN...
It's only once in a while that you use PCP, right?
DITTO!!! :rasta:Quote:
Originally Posted by vincevaper
mmmm vaporizing. i wana buy one so bad. i have my makeshift lifhtbulb though
Who Cares as long as u get stoned...right??