I've heard different theories.
The poll is coming.
Whoops, wrong button.
Okay, forget it. Do you think he'll return as a person, other lifeform, spirit, inanimate object, or whatever else?
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I've heard different theories.
The poll is coming.
Whoops, wrong button.
Okay, forget it. Do you think he'll return as a person, other lifeform, spirit, inanimate object, or whatever else?
I don't reckon he'll come back at all. If anything it'll probably be the father coming back to take revenge like in that parable about the cityfull of peeps who scorned the prophets then killed the mans son.
Didn't that story say vengeance would come. Never mind sea levels are arising everyone maybe we'll all drown first anyway. :thumbsup:
trychs is feeling glum. :D
Well, I guess it was just that. A parable.
But, to Gnostics, Jesus Christ is a parable.
a parable about a man who spread parables in attempt to save humanity; the moral of the parable?
leave everyone the fuck alone, and do whatever the fuck it is you want to do, and just embrace the cause-and-effect of your actions.
I don't think he's coming back.. I think it's like one of those times when you want to ditch your little brother or somebody and you're all like "yeah man... wait right here, I'll be right back" and you leave them there.
That's a cool explanation. It gives more credibility to the "Jesus was a Stoner" Theory.
Jesus already came back in 2000, but it was in peurto rico so nobody noticed.
i still think jesus is too pissed off at us, and wont come back untill he calms down, but alas, his temper is a direct RESULT of our mindset, not so much our actions.
our ignorance and lack of faith hurts christ's feelings, and a metaphysical body is made up OF feelings. we continue to attack him even after the crucifixion.
no, he wont come back unless a). he's not angry any more
or b). he is going to annahilate all of us.
I think he's pissed that we've been spelling his name wrong for 2,000 years.
Geez'.
lmao SHHHHSHSHHHHHH!!!!
it's funnier this way!
He is suppose to come back the way he left.
And at a time when the world is in termoil, and chaos!
There will be earthquakes, and odd weather....plague and pestilance...these things only show the coming of our Lord....so we have time yet to make good our gardens!
Acts 3:21
Rev 17:17
I suppose he could have already come back a few times, as muhammad, or ba'ha'ula, or..... *holds in laughter* joseph smith...
Why even waste your time debating silly superstitions? Life will always be meaningless unless you live the present moment to its fullest extent. There is no God, no Jesus, no nothing, only humanity. Once we all accept this we will be able to move beyond our petty squables and realize that we have the potential to be great, to usher in a new age of peace and prosperity for the entire world.
I am firm in my belief that religion (especially the big three monotheistic ones) has hindered and prevented us from achieving our potential.
Flesh...
I am banning you from the realms of my imagination.
Thanks for wondering...
Chris
i agree that religion has destroyed humanity more than it has bennifited us, but i just cant accept that the whole of reality is mindless.Quote:
Originally Posted by F L E S H
or that the mind is a physical entity, or collective of physical entities...
however, for you, as an athiest, i can accept the mind being a collective of all entities in existance. in this manner, the universe would be created from the inside out, rather than the spiritualistic outside in fassion i see.
Jesus his mad because we are screwing is big garden of green peace...lets get together and make nature grow!!! nature is powerful it can grow threw asphalt!!!
I believe jesus will return someday.
That day will be a glorious day for all.
yep, I've wondered at times how far we'd be both societally and technologically if we didn't spend over a thousand years executing people for proposing theories that aren't "duuuuuhhhhhhhhhh god did it". this is why I don't like the intelligent design theory, it's more of the same old "well you can't explain it because blank blank and blank, so that proves god did it!". throughout history we attributed everything we can't scientificly explain to the easy "god" explanation. and when we managed to scientificly explain that, we just move on to the next thing we haven't yet explained and call that proof of gods work.Quote:
Originally Posted by F L E S H
Living life to it's fullest degree intails study of my reality and how it works for me to be!Quote:
Originally Posted by F L E S H
How does the bee and the flower evolve together in their dependancy on each other?
One services the other, and vise versa...so more can come about!
But they are distinct entities.
How is it the flower can make nectar that the bee needs, to aloure it to the polllen, so it can furtilze other flowers of the same type?
Isn't this intelligence showing in its formation on both sides?
The plant holds some form of intelligence,and has made a covenant with the bee, butterfly, and Bird!
Other plants and trees have also formed these types of covenants!
The ant and the tree...the ant makes sure no other plants springs up in a certain area, so the trees can flurish in this spot!
Only one type of tree grows in this spot!
And the Ants live on the trees that have some how communicated to the ant, or vise versa, the terms of the covenants between them!
Both live out their lives dependant on each other, and cetain things remaining the same over time!
Now this is becoming plain to see in almost everything living...there seems to be a chain of life that is in support of the greater Good...the dome, the atmosphere, and water purification systems all livingthings working together to make it work!
That is why religion is born along side Us!
Something of intelligence is at work here, making life serve a purpose for the greater good of all life!
Thus "to tend and keep the garden" is the prime directive of humans!
We can communicate with them if we only tried to believe in them being intelligent enough to communicate a set of instruction given them by a higher order!!
I know from my experience in life, that there is something more to it, than Idolatry and wealth!
Being good, and doing service in the garden in some form, restoring the plants, and tending to the animals in some small way brings one closer to Godliness, master, or Lord ship over them!= Dominion
God is Holy, so we are holy, if we want to be!
Now if All life knows God, and Christ did his work right, nature becomes our friend!..or we are known by nature to be shamans of the forest or garden principles!
Thus we gain passage through the first level of conscienceness in this reality, by doing what God said to do!
"To tend and keep the garden"
This would intail that we hold all plants and animals in good care!
So the world can continue flurishing in some form of order!
We have helpers in them other life forms to count on if we do the right things!
We were not given rights to judge God's creations with out full study!
Today it is not working out so well!
Pollution and corruption with greed under an Idol have taken hold.
Not doing the service, raping the land of everything, and leaving nothing for the other life forms!
We are becoming selfish onto our selves!
Over population, and less and less people putting their hand to soil, is making nobodies out of everyone for a high price!
We all have to come together on this one fact, if we don't change the direction of these democracies, and social systems driving pollutants into the elements, we are going to die, because the planet will hate us and gobble us up!!!
Wrath of God is proof enough, we are doing the wrong things with fossil fuels!...I see the entire world ( all living things) going down the drain of the universe under this system of industry!...all because of human stupidity with the elementals!
Once they are completely defiled, All life will be in testemony of our self worth!
They will turn on us!
Are we going to save planet earth from ourselves?
Ozone decay, and Acid rain, tainted fish, mad cows, and sick chickens are just the top of the hat!
Are we intelligent?
Isn't next year the true year 2000? I've read somewhere that the Romans changed the calendar which means we're not there yet really we've just tried to cheat like. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdevious
Thank you, you took the bait :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Les
Don't you realize the adaptability of life? It doesn't take God or anyone else to tell bees what to do, or to make flowers pollinate... That's the way flowers reproduce, and bees help them by spreading the pollen around. If there are no bees, flowers still pollinate, and if there are no flowers, bees will eat something else.
You are close minded and contribute to the so-called evil that's spreadin around the world at this very moment. You refuse to see humanity as the sum of ITS OWN achievements, only because God decided it would be so. God can go fuck himself, because we did it all on our own.
I'm not even gonna comment on the rest of what you wrote, because it hurts my brain to think that some people still think this way. But if you want to progress beyong today's troubles, beyond today's feuds and hatreds, beyond good and evil (thank you Nietzsche), then you must progress beyond religion.
Chris... Don't be that way!!!! why?Quote:
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
Sorry fleah but finding out that God is not true then it would send the world in major suffering and pain. Weither God is real or a tool used to help us deal with the idea of death and hoping we have more is not my place to judge. I do think however the Bible is a lie and nothing more. Trust what you feel is right and then you will be fine. As for human advancments, we will always advance and believing in a God will not change that. It is true that this world have had many wars based on religion, but that is not the only reason for wars. Hitler still would have rised up. He would have targeted another group of people thou but thats all. He only targeted Jews because they were easy scapgoats. God has nothing to do with our peace, not now not ever.
As moderator of my imagination, I see no reason for you to talk about God more than I do, because of your atheism and a Universe, which I have seen, but you will never be able to explain. Your Post-per-God average must near 1000% because, even in your meaningless posts, there is an underlying explanation of the Universe. :stoned:Quote:
Originally Posted by F L E S H
The Post-per-God average is figured out by dividing your number of posts by your mentioning of God or Our World, within them.
Or something along those lines. Why 1,000? Because if you get a base-hit once in four at-bats, you'll bat .250. So look at it like 1.000.
edit: You may now post in my imagination, again.
Cool post, sorry I deleted it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MudFu
If you look at God as being every living creature, as we all have God in us, then God can create Peace.
If you look at God as a being who came down from Heaven and is trying to reach us through another lifeform, our Brother, Kannabis then God can create Peace.
If you look at God as a Creator and a Watcher, then through Faith He can create Peace.
If you don't believe in Him, God can create Peace through Confusion... :stoned:
what? no comment for me, F L E S H ?
:( im hurt, (not) really. anyways...
Your views should be kept in the sexuality forum. :stoned:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf
If your brain hurts when you think , there must be something wrong with it! :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by F L E S H
And to gain the holy spirit, one must become holy, and know all things God made, and why! :rasta:
I see God as the being who made the bases at which we grew. In this sence I believe in the evoloution theory and still able to keep faith in God. He let us grow and is letting us explore the world in our way. Thou he wants the best for us, he will leave us to do what we can with this world. One day we will evolve some more. But we still may not be any closer to peace. Thou our shape has changedm our mind is set. Until we the people of this world decide that thats enough no more war no more fighting, then we are doomed to repeat the events of the past. God is watching us and he is waiting for the day at which we can resolve these problems on our own. So we can be independent. So we do not have to reliy on his good grace all the time. God has no say in our peace, but God will watch over us.Quote:
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
We've evolved from factories to cyberspace within three-quarters of a century. We can gain infinite knowledge from our living rooms, through our computers, whereas a quarter-century ago, you had to read a book or take a class. We are evolving at a rapid pace in comparison with the times that scholars travelled the land to spread information. Peace is immanent.
Someday we will have peace, but we are not at the point in which we can embrace it. Thou many may want it, we still have the ones who will use medthods of harm to get what they want. Not everyone cares for knowledge.
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
Well said.
Dboy
Oh, sorry there, didn't see your post :) But I don't understand what you're trying to say... :stoned:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf
God programmed the bees.
There are learners that want to be rich mentally and there are knowledgeable people seeking material wealth. The more Our resources become Their resources, and vice-versa, the less importance religion has in the entire world. It's not who they worship, or their people, that's making Life for them so great, but they are depending on the rest of the world to bring them what they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by MudFu
Our goal as a planet should be to have every single one of it's inhabitants have what they want. Or at least be able to obtain it.
you do not believe in a superior force, but i ask you; do you believe our universe IS that superior force, and a "miracle" to us is flexing a single muscle to the universe.Quote:
Originally Posted by F L E S H
as though we are merely single cells within the universal body.
Sigh Amen to Flesh.......to me Faith is a synonym for Ignorance (if you look up the definition stupidity fits in there as well). Now we're ALL a bit ignorant etc, however only a truly stupid person claims to know something they can't prove. Faith is claiming 100%....Science never has...so basically choose "logic or faith" hmmmm I'll take logic that way when I notice fire can cook food I wont be ooooohing and ahhhhing and bowing down to it......;). If 1+1=2 you can't actually believe it makes 3 (you can say you do but to actually believe that, is simply stupid).
I like listening to you SSW so ill respond as best I can, here's an easy test , in dreams you can't feel pain. Pinch yourself.....know thy illusion of illusions is false.......;). The very fact we all perceive the same things debases the illusionary principle, delusions are seldom shared without manipulation(and never without outside influence). Doublespeak and strawmen aside ;).
The one thing I hate is the insistence there HAS to be a God, sure there COULD be "gods" but none of the ones that any human worships (they're too easily disproven by their own dogma written by humans(which is always contradictory) also nothing could ever be omnipotent its a human word that couldnt exist truly as its definition defeats its own abililty, "a rock so heavy god could not lift it"....either way(if he can or can't) he's not ominpotent ;). So that pushes out the big three monotheistic ones (and a few other polytheistic ones)
Being an atheist doesnt say "we're right" its just disbelief in things without one iota or shred of proof, would you convict a man or woman of any crime without a shred of evidence. If you claim "faith" for anything you probably would.......think on that(that wasnt directed at anyone in particular for reference), for instance how could we possibly know for sure what happens after death....we can't and those that do are delusional fools. Or as I believe Stan said once "The biggest douche in the universe" (to jon edwards....another who claims to know.....Southpark quote). Figuring it out NOW thats a good idea....but no assuming......no godly waves of hands(accompanied by a shrug) and no ignoring science.....
Would I not be made fun of for believing in the spaghetti monster from alpha centauri that lives under the legs of all chairs and likes to lick the sweat off of the bottom of your legs in summer when you stand up......(but I swear he's real!!!! theres no other explanation for the sweat dissappearing! well that or evaporation.....) In fact I think i'de get locked up (just like Jesus would if he was real and "came back"....)
lol you dont understand omni.
omni means all, a POLYpotent god could make a rock so heavy he couldnt lift it, OR couldnt make the rock heavier than his ability to lift it.
and OMNIPOTENT god can do both or neither, at will, for any or no reason at all, which can be changed at a whim lol.
omni-all
poly-many
mono/uni-one
understanding your prefixes never meant jack shit to me really lol funny to me....
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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
Jesus will come back in all his glory! both spiritually and physicially.....
SSW a valiant attempt but making your own definitions for well defined words is a fallacy. The english language is full of things that dont match "the rules of english" so your reasoning doesnt cut it at all. You can't apply any prefix or suffix to any word and expect it proves your point(because you've invented a new one...) ;).
Many Potent would not be a word......and you totally missed the issue completely avoidance is not an answer....Try to stick to definitions of words that can actually communicate your idea as more than nonsense :). Whats with the obsession with prefix's and suffix's lately lol. It's an irony you keep claiming none of us "understand" well of course not if your using words that dont make any sense nor have any basis in reality.....(please save that reality is an illusion nonsense for those that swallow it) ;) .
But I do enjoy your posts :).
wooaah the fixes dont matter, fuck the sufuxes and prefuxs. that hasnt anything to do with it lol and i dont give two shits about what makes english proper or not, so long as an idea is conveyed to another mind, fuck english and it's lousy rules and deffinitions.
my main point was missed because you are stuck on silly physical superstitions :D
inglish duznt do ewe crap if teh tip is understanded.
lol aanyways, the point is still that omnipotentcy isnt disproven by a paradox, it is omnipotent, paradoxical unto itself, it is all.