I really really need help!
Ok. This is for anyone who has any sort of idea on how the court systems work in canada, people who have maybe been through it.
Ok. My boyfriend is in trouble. In January 2005, he allegedly sexually assaulted a woman twice his age. He's had several different court appearances, the last one in early august. They set him another date for January 31, 2006. This is over a year since the incident occured. They also have no circumstantial evidence, since the claim was filed 2 weeks after it happened.
Now, this week, he recieved a letter from the police. It is another charge, this one for "the theft of a purse, wallet, jewelry, canadian currency and credit cards amounting to over 5000 dollars". The incident occured on November 11, 2004. This court date is set for January 5, 2006.
He says he didn't do either, though he was extremely drunk during the alleged sexual assault and doesn't remember that night very well. That's not the point though. I know these are two very serious charges, and regardless of whether or not he did it, I just can't see them both being dropped.
He will be 17 at the end of December. Does anyone have any idea on what his sentence may be? He is still a juvenile. Can they try a 17 year old as an adult? Is it likely that he'll have to serve time in a juvenile centre? :(
I really really need help!
for sexual assault they need dna evidence.and a witness.i dont think theyyll convict him if he didnt do it.but maybe he did.when your drinkin people can get carried away.for the stolen cash did they find him with stolen property or what.if so less than twelve months jail time.stealing aint shit.the law dont like it when you hurt someone though.becareful you might be dating a drunken thief who has violent sexual tendencies.
I really really need help!
He was never caught with any of the stolen stuff. It was found in a friend of his bedroom, who is a girl, and who was in juvie and just got out. He is pretty sure that she dropped names just to get out quicker.
I really really need help!
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Originally Posted by powair
Ok. This is for anyone who has any sort of idea on how the court systems work in canada, people who have maybe been through it.
Ok. My boyfriend is in trouble. In January 2005, he allegedly sexually assaulted a woman twice his age. He's had several different court appearances, the last one in early august. They set him another date for January 31, 2006. This is over a year since the incident occured. They also have no circumstantial evidence, since the claim was filed 2 weeks after it happened.
Now, this week, he recieved a letter from the police. It is another charge, this one for "the theft of a purse, wallet, jewelry, canadian currency and credit cards amounting to over 5000 dollars". The incident occured on November 11, 2004. This court date is set for January 5, 2006.
He says he didn't do either, though he was extremely drunk during the alleged sexual assault and doesn't remember that night very well. That's not the point though. I know these are two very serious charges, and regardless of whether or not he did it, I just can't see them both being dropped.
He will be 17 at the end of December. Does anyone have any idea on what his sentence may be? He is still a juvenile. Can they try a 17 year old as an adult? Is it likely that he'll have to serve time in a juvenile centre? :(
Im confused. You cant be charged via mail with a mere letter. You have to be arrested, read your rights, interviewed and then the determination is made if there is enough evidence to charge the individual. Mail is not part of this process. If he told you that he got a letter from the police charging him he is lying to you.
The other questions are best answered by his lawyer.
I really really need help!
He's not lying because I saw the letter. The police delivered it. If you are going to court you are getting charged with something. Whether or not you are CONVICTED remains to be seen.
You do not have to be arrested to be charged with something. You should learn more about how it works so you aren't taken advantage of one day.
I really really need help!
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Originally Posted by powair
He's not lying because I saw the letter. The police delivered it. If you are going to court you are getting charged with something. Whether or not you are CONVICTED remains to be seen.
You do not have to be arrested to be charged with something. You should learn more about how it works so you aren't taken advantage of one day.
if he hasn't been convicted then he will be proven innocent under reasonable doubt. like you said, "there's no evidence". and, if there is, tell him to claim he was sleep-walking. there have been people who've gotten away with murder by claiming that, but then again you'd probably need a medical history of sleep-walking, which isn't hard to obtain.
it's funny they released the man who murdered his in-laws in his sleep. you'd think they'd incarcerate someone who was equally as dangerous in an unconcious state. then again, i strongly believe that the only way to manage yourself sensibly while your sleeping would come from your everyday tasks that take no cognitive process. sorry i jumped off track.
I really really need help!
I don't know anything about the canadian legal system but if he hasn't already done it, tell him to get a lawyer. and a good one at that. If he's left to the works of some public defender he's fucked. Even a half asses lawyer should be able to either get him off altogether or at least get the charges reduced. That's assuming he has no priors for the same kind of offense.
I really really need help!
1. They won't convict a 17 year old as an adult in Canada
2. With no evidence they can bring it to court, but couldn't find him guilty without something (maybe make a restraining order).
3. The Canadian justice system is under funded and apaulingly lenient (which in this case, works in your favour). after all, Karla Homolka lured in several teenage girls (including her 15 yo sister), filmed her and Paul Bernardo raping and hacking them to little bits, and she's out after 10 freaking years, and just a couple days ago has had all her parole conditions lifted! all because she's "sorry", as is the most effective means of getting off in our system :rolleyes: . so overall, they'll do whatever they can to keep another person out of jail. (though a criminal record certainly doens't help in getting a job)
I really really need help!
I think your bf is a scumbag. You ask him about a sexual assault and he tells you ??I can??t remember I was drunk??..give me a fucking break that is the most played out excuse known to man?it??s right up there with ??it??s not you it??s me.?
And let me get this straight?. The woman he sexually assaulted?her shit is found at your bf ??friends? house.
He probably left it there after he was done banging this ??friend??..unless you suppose this girl sexually assaulted the woman and took her things.
And what do you mean regardless of weather or not he did it?sounds to me like you don??t even care if he did it. You just wanna make sure he dosen??t go to jail?probably because ??I love him? or something fucking stupid like that.
This woman was twice his age. It could have been my mother?..fuck him. However long he spends in jail will not be nearly enough?...
I really really need help!
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Originally Posted by mrdevious
1. They won't convict a 17 year old as an adult in Canada
2. With no evidence they can bring it to court, but couldn't find him guilty without something (maybe make a restraining order).
3. The Canadian justice system is under funded and apaulingly lenient (which in this case, works in your favour). after all, Karla Homolka lured in several teenage girls (including her 15 yo sister), filmed her and Paul Bernardo raping and hacking them to little bits, and she's out after 10 freaking years, and just a couple days ago has had all her parole conditions lifted! all because she's "sorry", as is the most effective means of getting off in our system :rolleyes: . so overall, they'll do whatever they can to keep another person out of jail. (though a criminal record certainly doens't help in getting a job)
I'll never understand why they let these freaks ever see the light of day again.
Sorry my ass! And by the way....killing is to good for them...let them rot in a 4x6 cell until God dies.
I really really need help!
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Originally Posted by likemclever
I think your bf is a scumbag. You ask him about a sexual assault and he tells you ??I can??t remember I was drunk??..give me a fucking break that is the most played out excuse known to man?it??s right up there with ??it??s not you it??s me.?
pretty harsh reply since you dont know for sure what happened, and powair is just reaching out for help. but we are all old enough and mature enough to make our own assumptions and draw our own conclusions.
powair, since I live in the US, the best advice I can give is for him to get a lawyer. he will fare a lot better if you have someone who knows the laws, and knows how the system works. best of luck in finding out the truth as to what really happened.
I really really need help!
well in the us they charge 16 year olds as adults. what might happen with your bf is he might go to juvi till he turns legal and then he will be shipped off to the big house.
I really really need help!
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Originally Posted by mike jones
pretty harsh reply since you dont know for sure what happened, and powair is just reaching out for help. but we are all old enough and mature enough to make our own assumptions and draw our own conclusions.
yeah your right it was pretty harsh.
But I havn??t forgotten that she was bitching about her parents because they wouldn??t buy her a new ipod after she traded the one they already got her to a drug dealer for some crack.
I also remember when she was bitching about her parents because they insisted she ride the horse they bought for her.
And it seems I recall when she was mad at her parents because they wouldn??t stop everything they were doing and go pick her up at her bf house in the middle of the night so instead she had to walk home. *forget about how she got to her bf house in the first place or why this knight in shinning armor wouldn??t see to it that his girlfriend got home safely* it seems to be her parents fault.
And now her dirtbag bf sexually assaulted and robbed a woman twice his age. But somehow he seems to be the victim.
She never seems to take any personal responsibility for her own actions. She is a victim after all.
So yeah I guess you could say I have drawn my own assumptions and conclusions.
I really really need help!
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Originally Posted by likemclever
yeah your right it was pretty harsh.
But I havn??t forgotten that she was bitching about her parents because they wouldn??t buy her a new ipod after she traded the one they already got her to a drug dealer for some crack.
I also remember when she was bitching about her parents because they insisted she ride the horse they bought for her.
wow.....
I think she needs to get some maturity and perspective on her life.
I really really need help!
Sounds like this bf is a real class act. I would dump him, and find someone who won't aggravate the hell out of you.
Anyways, it is in Canada. We got judges brains made of jelly here. Like someone mentioned already, the women drugging, raping, killijg her own sister, got only 10yrs. Pathetic.
There was a case here last year where a 16yr old boy stabbed a 15yr old boy to death at a bus stop over a $60 debt. The boy who killed got only 8months in the local reman center, and 1 yr probabtion. The judge claims, the boy who got killed, initiated the fight to begin with, so I guess that makes it okay for a 16yr old to carry a lethal weapon and use because he's having a temper tantrum. Makes me sick.
I'm getting to a point here. Canadas legal system is shit. You can get away with anything here.
You said there is no evidence agianst him for this sexual assault, no evidence=no case which ='s less time or no time at all. For your sake though, if he did do it, he is scum and I hope he gets sent to a big house so he can get fucked in his virgin, sick asshole for years to come.
Sounds like he's a thief too. He won't get much time for $5000 worth. He'll get maybe a month or 2 in jail. A month if he's on good behaviour.
This guy sounds like an idiot. Won't walk you home, sexual assaults women twice his age, steals...he's on a good road to jail and maybe jail will straighten him out. For his sake, and yours, I hope he goes for awhile. Maybe all that ass fucking will clear his head while his ass gets filled. :p Good luck! :rolleyes:
I really really need help!
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Originally Posted by mrdevious
wow.....
I think she needs to get some maturity and perspective on her life.
Agreed.
I really really need help!
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Originally Posted by powair
Ok. This is for anyone who has any sort of idea on how the court systems work in canada, people who have maybe been through it.
Ok. My boyfriend is in trouble. In January 2005, he allegedly sexually assaulted a woman twice his age. He's had several different court appearances, the last one in early august. They set him another date for January 31, 2006. This is over a year since the incident occured. They also have no circumstantial evidence, since the claim was filed 2 weeks after it happened.
Now, this week, he recieved a letter from the police. It is another charge, this one for "the theft of a purse, wallet, jewelry, canadian currency and credit cards amounting to over 5000 dollars". The incident occured on November 11, 2004. This court date is set for January 5, 2006.
He says he didn't do either, though he was extremely drunk during the alleged sexual assault and doesn't remember that night very well. That's not the point though. I know these are two very serious charges, and regardless of whether or not he did it, I just can't see them both being dropped.
He will be 17 at the end of December. Does anyone have any idea on what his sentence may be? He is still a juvenile. Can they try a 17 year old as an adult? Is it likely that he'll have to serve time in a juvenile centre? :(
Ok honey have you talked to the DA.
I really really need help!
In his first court apperiance he should have talked to him if he didn't get the plea bargin talk i dont know.
