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11-30-2005, 08:32 PM
drugsrbad

first time grower

ok heres the deal. ive got about 15 seeds that are in a piece of damp paper towel, theyve all already popped so i think they are ready to plant. i have a closet about 2 ft deep and 7 ft wide . i need to know a few things before i start,
what kind of soil should i get(home depot?)
where can i get the proper lighting?(home depot?)
how many of the seeds should i plant in that size of an area
how deep in the soil should i plant the seeds
what temperature should i keep the closet at?

any info would be greatly appreciated as im gunna plant these babies today!!!@!!!!!!
11-30-2005, 09:12 PM
drugsrbad

first time grower

can anyone out there help me out?
thx
11-30-2005, 09:37 PM
Powder Puff

first time grower

Uhm, I'm probably one of the worst to answer you!:o

Buuut, here I am..!:)

What kind of closet are you talking about? 7 feet are like 2 meters..! and that's how wide it is? how tall is it?

Any ways, If you have the money, get a HPS/MH converteble, if not, get some CFL's..!

Soil should be, somewhere beetween PH 6 - 7? I think so <---- (someone maybe correct me on that) Do NOT, I repeat, do NOT use outdoor soil, I did, and it sure as hell didn't work for me.. So, some potting soil, with the right PH, get that..!:)

Could you tell me how tall this closet is?:)
11-30-2005, 09:53 PM
drugsrbad

first time grower

the closet is 8 ft tall. so i should just go to home depot and get potting soil? what kind? thanks so far
11-30-2005, 10:10 PM
Sativagrowin

first time grower

ON ething that I think you're going to find out is that you should have had all this thought out b4 starting the seeds.

That said, the first thing you need is soil. I would by a good name brand potting soil with time release fert. already in it. This isnt ideal but for a novice it will help you a lot. Make sure the soil has a good mix of perlite, vermiculite, and organic matter in it. It should stay in a clump when you clench it in your fist but should break apart easily when poked with a finger. If it doesn't break apart easily you will need to amend the soil with the above mentioned items.

Second thing is the lights. You have two choices imo. HID and fluorescents. Since your intended garden will be long and narrow fluorescents could be a good choice for you. If you can hang four 4' fluorescents you could do alright. HID would be my choice. The home depot here doesn't carry any remote ballast HID systems. IF you do get an HID I would definately recomend a remote ballast because of the heat build up in the small space you'll be growing in. I know Walmart used to carry fluorescent fixtures that would hold two 4' tubes for around $10 - $15 apiece. You could get two of those and then order a decent HPS system which would arrive when you are about ready to flower.

How many seeds depend on the lights you get. If you get the 4' fluorescents then you are only going to be lighting 8 square feet of your closet. In that space I would recomend 4 seeds in 4 five gallon buckets with holes drilled in the bottom. Then set those inside other 5 gallon buckets with no holes (to catch run off water). The left over space could be used for a decent oscillating fan and any other equipment. Dont forget to put up mylar, a reflective emergency blanket ( I think home depot has these if not walmart does ), or paint the walls flat white to maximize the lighting.

Plant the seeds between 1/4" and 1/2" deep.

For the seedlings keep the closet about 75 F

Hope this help a little

Good luck
11-30-2005, 10:11 PM
Powder Puff

first time grower

Basicly, it has to drain well, the PH must be in between that line 6 - 7 (again correct me if I'm wrong) it supposed to be mixed like something / something with perlite, and some other things.. I would just go, and ask for some soil with that specific PH, I did, and mine are growing fine!:)

You should maybe get some fluorecent tubes for your grow, the closet is very wide!:p
11-30-2005, 10:22 PM
Sativagrowin

first time grower

A friend of mine bought some "miracle grow - moisture control" soil at home depot and has some good looking plants. IT's supposed to prevent you from over watering or under watering. He got it at the home depot. Not sure of the pH but his plants look good.
11-30-2005, 10:32 PM
drugsrbad

first time grower

thanks alot. im gunna run to home depot and get some soil. i already have a fluro light and ballast that was in my friends garage hanging on the ceiling that was not being used. so it would b smart to get another 1. i have a fan alreddy so i guess all i need is to know the lighting schedule and the amount of time to keep them on each schedule. do i need light for the first few days at all, when the plants are still under the soil? thanks anything else that i forgot to ask about would be greatly appreciated. this is my frist grow and i am not expecting to get a lot of yield just the learning experience, although some would b very nice.
thanks again
11-30-2005, 10:50 PM
Sativagrowin

first time grower

You dont need light till they break the top of the soil. Keep the lights on 24 hours a day or at least 18 hours a day untill they are 10" tall then switch to 12 on and 12 off. Make sure they get absolutely NO light during the 12 hours of dark. If you had a more intense light you could veg them longer but with fluorescents I wouldn't because the light wont reach the bottom of the foilage after they mature and it'll be a waste.

Again, good luck
11-30-2005, 10:55 PM
friendowl

first time grower

if you aint gonna get a hps or mh light soon then just stop now.save your time and go buy weed.pretty much any indoor potting soil will work. you should get some lil jiffy peat pots to start.they look like wooden quartes and they pop up whenyou add water.like two bucks for 12 and they come with a lil greenhouse.
11-30-2005, 11:22 PM
Psycho4Bud

first time grower

What I found to be a good combo is 2 parts potting soil, 1 part peat, and 1 part parrelite (bet I butchered the spelling). I got that lil' formula out of a growers guide and it works great! When ya get your soil, bake it in the oven at 270 for 20 min. to sterilize it. That will get rid of any potential bugs, mold spors, etc.... GOOD LUCK ON THE GROW!!! :thumbsup:
11-30-2005, 11:31 PM
frmoo

first time grower

How close should his lights be to his plants? :smokin:
12-01-2005, 12:14 AM
drugsrbad

first time grower

okay i got some miracle grow- moisture control potting soil. about the hps/ mh lights? im fine until im ready to flower right and that should be like 30 days at least frm now rite? im planning on getting them i jus gotta wait till i know exactly what i need and how much it is. anyways im gunna plant the seeds tonite. would it b better to plant them in cups till they sprout or put them in the big pots now. again i have 15 seeds all popped so how many should i plant to find me a couple girls, all of them?
thanks again couldnt do it without u guys
12-01-2005, 12:38 AM
Psycho4Bud

first time grower

Myself, I use flo's until thier over the sprout period. 2 inches above the plant. When ya go to the MH for 5 wks, I keep them at about 2-2.5 ft (1-400w) Veg time I add on 3-400w HPS and keep em at about the same distance. The room is covered in mylar.....walls, ceiling, floor...

Thats just my method....I'm sure that there's a lot of different success stories out there with a different methods.
12-01-2005, 12:42 AM
Psycho4Bud

first time grower

Quote:

Originally Posted by drugsrbad

okay i got some miracle grow- moisture control potting soil. about the hps/ mh lights? im fine until im ready to flower right and that should be like 30 days at least frm now rite? im planning on getting them i jus gotta wait till i know exactly what i need and how much it is. anyways im gunna plant the seeds tonite. would it b better to plant them in cups till they sprout or put them in the big pots now. again i have 15 seeds all popped so how many should i plant to find me a couple girls, all of them?
thanks again couldnt do it without u guys

If your seeds haved germed put them into some 6 inch pots then after a few weeks where they look stronger, use the SAME soil consistancy and put them into larger pots that will take you through flower. GOOD LUCK ON THE GROW!

Once again, others might have different methods...this is what works for me! :thumbsup:
12-01-2005, 01:48 AM
drugsrbad

first time grower

thanks to everyone for your help. if there are any more tips or pointers that you think will be usefull to me please feel free to post them. ill keep u all updated.
i am looking to see other peoples closet/flouro setups so please post pics!
thanks again
12-01-2005, 02:26 AM
Psycho4Bud

first time grower

This was my first set up... :D
http://gallery.cannabis.com/index.php?cat=29415
12-01-2005, 04:39 AM
hempman666

first time grower

nice grow bro hey that rhymes
12-01-2005, 05:41 PM
drugsrbad

first time grower

ok theyre planted how often should i water and should i use bottled water?
12-02-2005, 02:38 PM
J DOG 6000

first time grower

My advise is read a book and don't use miracle grow soil.You don't want nutes in your soil.
12-02-2005, 10:40 PM
drugsrbad

first time grower

ok i have two 4 foot fluro ballasts what kind of bulbs should i get? and also how often should i water, the seeds were just put in the soil 2 days ago. and im supposed to use distilled water right?
thanx a lot
12-02-2005, 11:12 PM
frmoo

first time grower

That would be best, but it's too costly! :stoned:
12-03-2005, 12:59 AM
drugsrbad

first time grower

should i get cool white fluro tubes or what kind? and distilled water?
12-17-2005, 05:00 PM
sloshie

first time grower

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sativagrowin

A friend of mine bought some "miracle grow - moisture control" soil at home depot and has some good looking plants. IT's supposed to prevent you from over watering or under watering. He got it at the home depot. Not sure of the pH but his plants look good.

miracle grow will take away from the thc level the best thing to use in the house is any soil with moss in it i like useing rose soil it works best for me
12-17-2005, 05:05 PM
sloshie

first time grower

Quote:

Originally Posted by drugsrbad

should i get cool white fluro tubes or what kind? and distilled water?

cool white is fine the water dose not really matter u can get ph 6-7 % to mix in your water if your soil is just like a moister controll type soil distilled water would be used in a hydro setup
12-17-2005, 07:39 PM
mscaboo

first time grower

miracle grow will take away from the thc level?lol.sloshie how did you come to that conclusion?i have used it for awile now and i get comparable results to fox farm.don't forget the dolomite lime in your soil 1-2 tablespoon per gallon of soil