What about this site to become...

Hi moderators, administrator, and all those people that make this site going on!! :dance:

May i please introduce you the suggestion for this site to have or become an organization in the legal world of cannabis...Like there is a lot of people all around the world, and not only children, we could have, as a whole, a certain impact in the legal world... I don't know what are the implication of doing something major like this, i am just trying to start something...

Please tell me if this is something we can consider in the futur!

Thanks and all my best regards,
-Dave

The World of Cannabis will grow as more information comes out disproving all the "myths" about cannabis.

Marijuana Myth #8. Marijuana is more potent today than in the past

This myth is the result of bad data. The researchers who made the claim of increased potency used as their baseline the THC content of marijuana seized by police in the early 1970s. Poor storage of this marijuana in un-air conditioned evidence rooms caused it to deteriorate and decline in potency before any chemical assay was performed. Contemporaneous, independent assays of unseized "street" marijuana from the early 1970s showed a potency equivalent to that of modern "street" marijuana. Actually, the most potent form of this drug that was generally available was sold legally in the 1920s and 1930s by the pharmaceutical company Smith-Klein under the name, "American Cannabis".

References:

8) See "Cannabis 1988, Old Drug New Dangers, The Potency Question" by Tod H Mikuriya, M.D. and Michael Aldrich, Ph.D., Journal of Psychoactive Drugs, ibid.
Hemp FACT #22-Marijuana Myths

Date: 95-02-02 10:59:16 EDT

From: ADBryan

Marijuana Myth #9. Marijuana impairs short-term memory

This is true but misleading. Any impairment of short-term memory disappears when one is no longer under the influence of marijuana. Often, the short-term memory effect is paired with a reference to Dr. Heath's poor rhesus monkeys to imply that the condition is permanent.

Marijuana Myth #10. Marijuana lingers in the body like DDT

This is also true but misleading. Cannabinoids are fat soluble as are innumerable nutrients and, yes, some poisons like DDT. For example, the essential nutrient, Vitamin A, is fat soluble but one never hears people who favor marijuana prohibition making this comparison.

References:

9) See Marijuana and Health, ibid. Also see "Marijuana, Memory, and Perception", ibid.

10) The fat solubility of cannabinoids and certain vitamins is well known. See Marijuana and Health, ibid. For some information on vitamin A, see "The A Team" in Scientific American, Vol 264, No. 2, February 1991, p. 16.
Hemp FACT #23-Marijuana Myths

Date: 95-02-03 13:53:44 EDT

From: ADBryan

Marijuana Myth #11. There are over a thousand chemicals in marijuana smoke

Again, true but misleading. The 31 August 1990 issue of the magazine Science notes that of the over 800 volatile chemicals present in roasted COFFEE, only 21 have actually been tested on animals and 16 of these cause cancer in rodents. Yet, coffee remains legal and is generally considered fairly safe.

Marijuana "Myth"#12. No one has ever died of a marijuana overdose

This is true. It was put in to see if you are paying attention. Animal tests have revealed that extremely high doses of cannabinoids are needed to have lethal effect. This has led scientists to conclude that the ratio of the amount of cannabinoids necessary to get a person intoxicated (i.e., stoned) relative to the amount necessary to kill them is 1 to 40,000. In other words, to overdose, you would have to consume 40,000 times as much marijuana as you needed to get stoned. In contrast, the ratio for alcohol varies between 1 to 4 and 1 to 10. It is easy to see how upwards of 5000 people die from alcohol overdoses every year and no one EVER dies of marijuana overdoses.

References:

11) See "Too Many Rodent Carcinogens: Mitogenesis Increases Mutagenesis", Bruce N. Ames and Lois Swirsky Gold, Science, Vol 249, 31 August 1990, p. 971.

12) Cannabis and alcohol toxicity is compared in Marijuana Reconsidered, ibid., p. 227. Yearly alcohol overdoses was taken from "Drug Prohibition in the United States: Costs, Consequences, and Alternatives" by Ethan A. Nadelmann, Science, Vol 245, 1 September 1989, p. 943.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/hf21_30.htm

The site should put up another category about NORML or create their own

yeah it is all about destroying the other partys truth, anti drug propaganda are doing the same...they say they bust the myth about pot! but in fact creates new myth! well keep up beachguy, spread the good news as i am trying to do the same up here, in canada!

http://www.marijuana.com/
Latest News:
Can: Free The Ganga!
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USA: Woody Harrelson says yoga gives him a better high than...


http://www.maps.org/mmj/
# UMass Amherst MMJ production facility project
# MAPS/CaNORML vaporizer and waterpipe study
# Medical marijuana potency testing project
# MAPS marijuana Orphan Drug Designation project
# Dr. Abrams' short term effects of cannabinoids in HIV infection study
# Dr. Russo's cannabis in migraine treatment study

Again, can somebody tells me if it's possible??? Would apreciate a reply from moderators...Thanks!

I think it's a good idea. Basically you're saying because of the popularity of the website and number of visitors, something more can be done with this website. I agree and would love to give the opposers a run for their money.

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Originally Posted by daves19

Again, can somebody tells me if it's possible??? Would apreciate a reply from moderators...Thanks!

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Well, yeah it's possible.

But I don't think it'll happen.

There are a lot of people here that want to stay anonymous.

If Cannabis.com where to become a legal entity, it would be liable to the Feds' rules... and that can include, having to hand over to the Feds a list of all the IP addresses that use/vivist this site.

YIKES!

Nice idea, anyways ;)

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Originally Posted by 420kidder

I think it's a good idea. Basically you're saying because of the popularity of the website and number of visitors, something more can be done with this website. I agree and would love to give the opposers a run for their money.

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Sorry Have to Jump In Here:
Are you saying your website is better? and going to give the "opposers" cannabis.com a run for their money?
Going around emailing members you don't even know to become mods on your site?
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=42365
Then giving these members permission to view members ips, ect. (when you have no clue as who they are)
Asking for donations to unlock additions on your site, when you have 14 members? ...now thats some funny shit.

GOOD LUCK KID

I did a search on your post here, man you have no clue.

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Originally Posted by daves19

Again, can somebody tells me if it's possible??? Would apreciate a reply from moderators...Thanks!

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Ron is the owner of this site and many others. Only he can answer your question dude. Mods don't have those type of answers, were just members trying to make a difference is all. No pay, no nothing at all.

i also agree with the idea. I wish it were lagalized as much as all of you, but i am a lazy arm chair commando. Make it easy for me and you will have more members. Ron, you will go down in history if you make it happen!!!!!! :D :D :D

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Originally Posted by Zandor

Ron is the owner of this site and many others. Only he can answer your question dude. Mods don't have those type of answers, were just members trying to make a difference is all. No pay, no nothing at all.

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Thanks Zandor! Yeah you guys are good for doing all of this! Is there anyway to reach Ron? It's only a question for now, obviously, but i am willing also to put my time for the good faith of cannabis!

Thanks!

Dave-

The "legal world" is not necessarily the right place to focus resources in my view ... it's not the law that's the problem per se, but rather the politicians who pass such draconian laws to begin with.

Politics and law are related, but not the same thing ... "drug" laws have been argued every which way and yet the outcome is often basically the same ... even the U.S. Supreme Court is usually no help - and sadly, that's not new ... the Dred Scott decision comes to mind ... ultimately it took the Civil War and then much activism throughout the 20th century to change things - the "legal world" was of little consequence ... it was politics that matter ... to that end it often takes good 'ol "activism" to force politicians to change things ...

With all that said, you've got the right idea ... but focus it on politicians ... the best way to do that beyond traditional "activism" is LOBBYING ... some organizations, such as Marijuana Policy Project (MPP) already do that, but more lobbying - especially by an organization that emphasizes commerce could greatly help...

Politicians will do most anything when they see $$$ for their constituents, etc...

A prime example of this is gambling ... at one time not so long ago, such as in Pennsylvania, most all forms of gambling was very illegal; I remember back in the 80s the uproar by people over PA conducting lottery drawings on Sunday ... that was a big deal back then - these days, that seems quaint. Fast-forward a couple of decades ... now PA is on the verge of having legalized slots with possibly a combined total of more slot machines than all of Vegas!

In my view, an organization that did lobbying of the benefits of cannabis with emphasis on the economics of legal / regulated cannabis could likely make a real difference.

Lobbying is done by both non-profit and for-profit entities ... or more often, they setup/hire a separate entity to do the lobbying on their behalf - many possible organizational structures... heck, folks on their own, who have some free time and are good with people, could start lobbying straight away by meeting and getting to know well their local representatives ...

More aggressive, organized lobbying often takes money - some states require professional lobbyists to register ... and jump through other various hoops ... organized lobbying costs money - but then money is an integral part of politics - lobbying focused on economics of allowing legal / regulated cannabis would be helpful ...

Rambling on as I often do LOL! ...

In regards to a web-based organization that has basically only a website will only get one so far ... but with that said, I have some new sites in the works ... one of the websites I'm considering creating is MedPot aimed towards bringing med users together and providing related resources for them.

If you are seeking to focus on the web, then MedPot may be the ideal website to help out with.

If your focus / expertise is the law, then lobbying is likely the better focus - ie. a U.S.-based cannabis lobby that emphasizes economic benefits.

Let me know more of what you're thinking and your expertise ...

Ron

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Originally Posted by daves19

...May i please introduce you the suggestion for this site to have or become an organization in the legal world of cannabis...Like there is a lot of people all around the world, and not only children, we could have, as a whole, a certain impact in the legal world... I don't know what are the implication of doing something major like this, i am just trying to start something...

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i like the idea, any ETA on the possible release on MedPot?

[align=center]Speaking as a Medical User I would be more then happy to both see it and help build it.
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