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Good move. Why it was changed to holiday tree in the first place is beyond me.
http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20051...0703-5977r.htm
now we need to get the schools to stop teaching our kids about that bogus holiday Kwanzaa started in 1966 by Dr. Maulana Karenga,a black nationalist and communist. What a joke!!
http://christocentric.com/Kwanzaa/
Well, gotta agree with you on this one. I, for one, and utterly sick and tired of North Americans and Europeans bending over backwards to accomodate new immigrants, yet they don't give a shit about people who hhave been living here for generations. It's insulting.
Political correctness is the true spawn of Satan.
I agree.
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
Yup, I gotta agree with Amsterdam on this one. And I'm an athiest! To me Christmas is about getting together with family, the spirit of giving, and basically about people sharing happiness with the ones they love. Just because I don't believe in the Christ aspect of Christmas doesn't mean I want the name changed.
I also don't have a problem with City or towns having Nativity scenes as part of their "official" Christmas displays. It's part of the whole Christmas tradition. I see it as a pleasant story, no different than that of Santa Claus, etc. Not everyone beleives in Santa but you don't have the athiests screaming when his picture is plastered on everything this time of year. After all, isn't this the perfect time of year to be more accepting of others beliefs and cultures? If the athiests, Muslims, Jews, etc get offended well then they can go and fu.... um, what I was about to say wasn't too Christmasee so, if they get offended, let them get coal in their stockings. It's more than they deserve.
Who is even MAKING these requests? Fuck them1!
Please do Atheists a favor an don't claim to be one of us. You dont' even know how to spell the word. You obviously have no understanding of what it is really about or what it means to be one. When you lump "athiests" together with Islam and Judaism, and identify with Christianity, you are just as bad as the theists. The fact that you use caps for the first letter of religions' terms, and small case for "athiesm" (sp), shows your true colors. You are a "house athiest", lol. You might as well assume the position, on your knees, and go the whole hog with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fengzi
It is the FAR left people who are in on this "War on Christmas". A lot of department stores can not say "Merry Christmas" in fear of insulting someone's beliefs. Instead they say, "Happy Holidays". What a bunch of crock. I have also heard the FAR left trying to get rid of the "In God we Trust" on our currency.
The man that you quote, Socrates ("The unexamined life is not worth living"), would not have agreed with you about this, lol! He was a critic of religion and it's trappings.Quote:
Originally Posted by XTC
Nov-28-2005Christmas shopping informationBelow find a list of the major department stores across the country and where they stand on using Christmas in their holiday advertising and other promotions.JCPenney
"Christmas" mentioned in print ads & other advertising
Federated Department Stores (Macy's, Bloomingdale's, Lord & Taylor, Filene's, Marshall Fields)
"Christmas" mentioned in print ads & other advertising
Employees are free to use any holiday greeting that they feel is appropriate
Dillard's
"Christmas" mentioned in print ads & other advertising
FAO Schwarz
Using "Holiday" this year in advertising materials
Employees are free to use any holiday greeting that they feel is appropriate
Toys 'R' Us
Employees are free to use any holiday greeting that they feel is appropriate (no official policy)
KB Toys
Using "Happy Holidays" this year in advertising materials
Employees are free to use any holiday greeting that they feel is appropriate (no official policy)
Costco
No advertising, but company leans towards "Happy Holidays" for in-store promos
BJ's Wholesale Club
Using "holiday season" this year in advertising materials
Employees are free to use any holiday greeting that they feel is appropriate
Wal-Mart
Using "Happy Holidays" this year in advertising materials
Employees are free to use any holiday greeting that they feel is appropriate
Sears & Kmart
Kmart will not use "Christmas" in its advertising
Employees are free to use any holiday greeting that they feel is appropriate Kohl's
Kohl's does not disclose its advertising strategies
Employees are free to use any holiday greeting that they feel is appropriate Target
Did not return phone calls
Howdy Y'all,
I say-let's vote with our money on this issue,don't shop anywhere ,where the store refuses to have anything to do with Christmas or takes the secular progressive,anti-Christian stance. The far-lefters think that having Christmas as a federal holiday,is actually establishing and endorsing a religion,they want Christmas to no longer be a national holiday,if they manage to do away with Christmas on these grounds,every other Christian holiday will be taken away as well..because-after all,this just one aspect of an agenda to ban Christianity altogether.
Have a good one ...
Breukelen, do you read Nietzsche? Lately I've read Beyond Good and Evil, the Genealogy of Morals, and snippets of The Antichrist and Thus Spoke Zarathustra. This man is a bloody genius.
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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
Don't worry, I am an agnostic, but I still feel it's a crock by people who run out of things to complain about.
Sorry for the spelling error Breukelen, but as for the rest...KISS MY ASS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
From Merriam Webster
Main Entry: athe·ist
Pronunciation: 'A-thE-ist
Function: noun
: one who believes that there is no deity
Hmmm, that describes me perfectly. I'm sorry if I don't meet your definition of Atheist(out of respect for you I will capitalize the first letter from now on;). When I "lump together" Atheists with Christians, Muslims, etc. it was in the context of describing those who would object to various images of Christmas. It really had nothing to do with various religions or schools of thought. If Guatamalan tamale makers objected I would have added them too.
So maybe I don't know the true meaning of being an Atheist. I always thought it meant someone who doesn't believe in God. I guess I was wrong. I do know the meaning of Asshole, however, and those folks who go around bitching and whining because a traditional holiday symbol is called a "Christmas Tree" fit that description perfectly. Just because I do not believe in God does not mean that should disrespect other people who believe in something I don't or demand that traditional holiday symbols be taken away. If that's what it means to be an Atheist than I'll leave it to the assholes of the world. I'll just stick to being some dude who doesn't belive in God.
The basis for the Christian-era Santa Claus is Bishop Nicholas of Smyrna (Izmir), in what is now Turkey. Nicholas lived in the 4th century A.D. He was very rich, generous, and loving toward children. Often he gave joy to poor children by throwing gifts in through their windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fengzi
http://www.the-north-pole.com/history/
I never looked at Santa Clause, the tree, etc.....as having ANYTHING to do with the "birth of Christ". Santa is something for the kids...once a year they get extra presents and hopefully a little cheer. To try to destroy this based on religion is rediculous! Does your x-mas tree drip holy water on ya? Does your family set out communion for Santa? I find it amazing that people would relate these two together. When did Jesus say that on his birthday great wealth shall be spent at your local department store for shit you don't really need? Wouldn't he have promoted spending all that dough to feed the poor?
Some people just need to get a grip! :thumbsup:
I think it is all BULLSHIT ..if you are Christian then say Merry Christmas if you are Jewish say Happy Hanukah if you are atheist say Happy holidays...
and then STFU. I think this is all just bullshit blown out of proportion to give everyone something to bitch about and forget the REAL issues like fighting an illegal war and the destruction of our social infrastructure....
Who really cares if the corporations say Merry Christmas? They just want your money...they could say All Satanist shop here and get a 50% discount.....the store would be full. They would be punching each other in the face to get in.:(
I have not read that much of him lately, but I own and have read all of those books. Some of them are online, including the H.L. Mencken translation of The Antichrist.Quote:
Originally Posted by F L E S H
?? Here it becomes necessary to call up a memory that must be a hundred times more painful to Germans. The Germans have destroyed for Europe the last great harvest of civilization that Europe was ever to reap??the Renaissance. Is it understood at last, will it ever be understood, what the Renaissance was? The transvaluation of Christian values,--an attempt with all available means, all instincts and all the resources of genius to bring about a triumph of the opposite values, the more noble values. . . . This has been the one great war of the past; there has never been a more critical question than that of the Renaissance??it is my question too--; there has never been a form of attack more fundamental, more direct, or more violently delivered by a whole front upon the center of the enemy!?
THE ANTICHRIST by Friedrich Nietzsche, Published 1895, translation by H.L. Mencken Published 1920
http://www.fns.org.uk/ac.htm
This man was probably the greatest Atheist that ever lived. He would have rather devoted more of his time to the arts, but he KNEW what had to be done about religion and, through his writings, totally destroys any vestige of rationale for Christianity, and other belief systems. An Atheist Hero!
Yeah, say whatever you want. The advent of christianity plunged the western world into a thousand years of chaos, I see no cause for celebration. But then I see no reason to celebrate hannuka or quanza (yes ,I know I probably mispelled one or both of those) or the winter solstice for that fucking matter. You see that computer screen in front of your face? What more proof do you need that science is fact, religion is superstition?Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueCat00
Howdy Blue Cat,Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueCat00
You're right in saying that our social infrastructure is in danger,it is a real issue and it's also known as the Culture war..your side seeks to erase all traces of tradition and Christianity..in the name of secular progressionism..and millions of us Christians-aim to preserve our traditions and keep this country,a Christian nation,as it has been since it's inception..85 % of all Americans,identify themselves as being Christians.
We don't want our hard-earned dollars to go to anti-Christian,anti-God and anti-Americans..I refuse to shut up and I will speak out against the harm that pc'ism is causing this country.
While you may be okay with selling yer soul for a 50% discount,millions of us-are not content to do so.
Have a good one....
I live in canada. And we're very open and accepting. alright thats cool. But at what point does change become an issue. This country is based on freedom and openess to ALL!
For starters, 'Santa'. The image we know now with the fat guy in a red suit was made my coca cola.
I went to christian schools my entire life. i dont consider myself christian, i have gone and attened various other religious functions, and i've concluded this: Religion is whatever you make it to be. I believe in freedom of speech AND to be able to persue any religion you choose. At what point do we become too sensitive to others? I believe christmas is whatever you want it to be! example: a time of the year that allows you to get together with friends and family have a good time. If thats not you then thats ok. do whatever you want to make your; "season experience" YOURS. I do have a christmas tree up (real one..smells nice) I do say merry christmas, but i will not apologize for any of this. why? because im just being myself and if you dont want to participate thats fine. but dont try to bring down others because im sure we can find something you like and bring it down as well. and thats all i got to say...this is a rant...may not make sense...but it did in my mind. and thats that. EH!
this is nonsense
Research would save people the embarassment of having to be told that Christmas is really just a hijacked pagan festival and bugger all to do with the birth of christ.
I think the pagans should be pissed at the Christians if anything. :rolleyes: