C'mon, I need some help disspelling these rumors...

Smoked Marijuana: is Mutogenic, Fetotoxic and Carcinogenic - can Impair the Immune System, break down the Male Genetic Code and Injure or Destroy the Eggs in the Ovaries - can cause Bipolar Psychosis, can trigger Schizophrenia, can Slowdown the Brain's Energy and can be a co-factor in producing full blown AIDS in HIV patients. Would you call that Medicine? I wouldn't
-http://www.sarnia.com/groups/antidrug/

"If marijuana is medicine, Dr. Kevorkian wrote the prescription!"
Don Feder, columnist, Boston herald 4/2/01

MEDICAL EXCUSE MARIJUANA is all about GETTING STONED not treating an illness

NO CURE
Personally I don't believe in harm reduction. I am a drug addict, and I know you cannot teach people to control their drug use because drugs in all forms control you. Drugs are a very addictive substance and once an addict always an addict.

I have been clean since 1989. Most people think I am cured, but there is no cure. Yes it has been 10 years since I've smoked crack or marijuana or any of the other drugs I used, but I still get the cravings and it takes everything I've got not to let the drugs win. But there are other addicts who aren't so lucky.

The only way to stop this addiction is to make it a criminal offense to use and possess any drugs. (Reprinted with permission of the writer. L.F.I.A. Newsletter)-www.sarnia.com



Despite data which strongly supports the continuation of effective drug abuse prevention, treatment and enforcement programs, some prominent Americans support legalizing illicit drugs. For example: George Shultz, former President Reagan's Secretary of State, says that "Legalization would destroy dealer profits and remove their incentive to get young people addicted."

More on the way... :stoned:

Here's the the answer to why alcohol and tobacco is legal, yet Pot isn't:

Clearly, alcohol and tobacco can be quite harmful. They have a major impact on morbidity and mortality in the United States. Alcohol is a cause or contributing factor in most traffic deaths and nearly half of all murders, sexual assaults, robberies and other violent crimes. More than 40,000 babies are born at risk each year because their mothers drank alcohol during pregnancy.

Similarly, tobacco kills over 400,000 people each year in the United States, and the British medical journal, Lancet, estimates that tobacco is the cause of death for 20 percent of the people in the developed world.

Nevertheless, a given dose of cocaine or crack is far more dangerous than a drink of alcohol. Alcohol has an addiction rate of 10 percent, whereas cocaine has an addiction rate as high as 75 percent.[13]

And when cocaine is combined with marijuana, it can be deadly. According to a study in Pharmacology, Biochemistry and Behavior, an increase in heart rate due to cocaine was markedly enhanced if preceded by smoking marijuana.

By itself, marijuana is a dangerous drug as well. A joint of marijuana is far more carcinogenic than a cigarette. Microbiologist Tom Klein of the University of South Florida reports, "We've tried working with [marijuana smoke], and it's so toxic, you just get it near the immune system and it [the immune system] dies." Klein found that THC [tetrahydrocannabinol -- the active ingredient in marijuana] suppresses some immune system responses and enhances others.

A study in the Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology found that marijuana smoke is often contaminated by the fungus, Aspergillus.[17] Another study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that cases of allergic sinus infection with the same fungus came from recreational use of contaminated marijuana.[18]

A study in Drug and Alcohol Dependence found that cannabis [marijuana] users react very slowly in performing motor tasks and suffer disability in personal, social and vocational areas. They also indicate a higher score for neurotic and psychotic behavior.[19]

A study in American Review of Respiratory Diseases found that marijuana smoke is as irritating as tobacco smoke; when used together, marijuana and tobacco cause the small oxygen-exchanging parts of the lung to shed cells that first become inflamed.[20]

A 1995 study in The New England Journal of Medicine suggests that illicit drugs such as marijuana and cocaine can interfere with male sperm production.[21] A study in Cancer found that the children of women who smoke marijuana are 11 times more likely to contract leukemia.[22]

Mothers who smoke marijuana also contribute to low birth weight and developmental problems for their children and increase the risk of abnormalities similar to those caused by fetal alcohol syndrome by as much as 500 percent.[23]

Kasi Sridhar, a professor at the University of Miami's Sylvester Comprehensive Cancer Research Center, reports finding large numbers of marijuana smokers among younger cancer patients. While only 17 percent of the patients in his study were marijuana smokers, two-thirds of the patients younger than 45 smoked cannabis.[24]

Since the 1970s there have been more than 10,500 scientific studies which demonstrate the adverse consequences of marijuana use.[25] Many of these studies draw upon data collected when most of the marijuana available in the U.S. was far less potent than that available today. Indeed, drug czar Lee Brown says that marijuana on the streets today is up to 10 times more potent than a generation ago. This fact contributes to its addictive nature.[26]

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

Smoked Marijuana: is Mutogenic, Fetotoxic and Carcinogenic - can Impair the Immune System, break down the Male Genetic Code and Injure or Destroy the Eggs in the Ovaries - can cause Bipolar Psychosis, can trigger Schizophrenia, can Slowdown the Brain's Energy and can be a co-factor in producing full blown AIDS in HIV patients. Would you call that Medicine? I wouldn't
-http://www.sarnia.com/groups/antidrug/

"If marijuana is medicine, Dr. Kevorkian wrote the prescription!"
Don Feder, columnist, Boston herald 4/2/01

MEDICAL EXCUSE MARIJUANA is all about GETTING STONED not treating an illness

NO CURE
Personally I don't believe in harm reduction. I am a drug addict, and I know you cannot teach people to control their drug use because drugs in all forms control you. Drugs are a very addictive substance and once an addict always an addict.

I have been clean since 1989. Most people think I am cured, but there is no cure. Yes it has been 10 years since I've smoked crack or marijuana or any of the other drugs I used, but I still get the cravings and it takes everything I've got not to let the drugs win. But there are other addicts who aren't so lucky.

The only way to stop this addiction is to make it a criminal offense to use and possess any drugs. (Reprinted with permission of the writer. L.F.I.A. Newsletter)-www.sarnia.com



Despite data which strongly supports the continuation of effective drug abuse prevention, treatment and enforcement programs, some prominent Americans support legalizing illicit drugs. For example: George Shultz, former President Reagan's Secretary of State, says that "Legalization would destroy dealer profits and remove their incentive to get young people addicted."

More on the way... :stoned:

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Too bad personal experience doesn't qualify as a contrary fact. I'll do some research.

God, I hate ignorant people............. you we need to some how get a scientist on our side and make a huge nationwide known test on weed and show everyone how good it is! I know for sure it doesnt slow or make it harder to get pregnant becuase ALOT of my friends are either pregnant or have a kid and they all SMOKE WEED!! And i'm talkin about a whole bunch of people too!! Not just one or two, try more along the lines of 8 or 9!!


Personally I think weed helps me think. Now I think if someone has bipolar or shitco or whatever it may make them worse. My bro is bipolar and weed mkae him fuckin crazy literally!! I never would dream weed could make you crazy or nothin but him,... dude you have no idea. I have a friend who has a stuttering problem and when he smokes it makes him stutter less.

It depends on who you are and what disease or whatever you have., But mainly weed can do nothing but help you!! ;) :D

wtf, used to smoke blunts with rocks n chase tha dragon before n after a good joint, still feelin fine, even huffed all kinds of shyt, yeah i'm pretty sure i'll be fuckd later but if coke n weed were a deadly combo i certainly wouldnt be here right now

I see that guy's name in all the good reports, Dr. Xiao Zheng, or something similar.

Claim: In recent years there has been a dramatic increase in the number of emergency room visits due to marijuana use.

Rebuttal: The reason for seeking emergency care may not have anything to do with the marijuana "mention." A mention of past marijuana use becomes a marijuana report in the ER. The numbers quoted come from the DAWN, which has also been coined as "Data About Worthless Numbers," because the information gathered only reflects the drugs consumed by ER patients, the drug mention is NOT necessarily related to the ER visit. Changes in reporting procedures have marred these statistics beyond validity; plus in 1998 54% of ER admissions were criminal justice system referrals.

Also, just because someone goes to the emergency room doesn't imply something is wrong. Merely that the user thinks something is wrong. Think back to the first time you got high and you may see why. People get worried and paranoid, though there may be no problem at all.

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Smoked Marijuana: is Mutogenic, Fetotoxic and Carcinogenic - can Impair the Immune System, break down the Male Genetic Code and Injure or Destroy the Eggs in the Ovaries - can cause Bipolar Psychosis, can trigger Schizophrenia, can Slowdown the Brain's Energy and can be a co-factor in producing full blown AIDS in HIV patients.

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So many people have smoked marijuana for so long, if any of that were true why hasn't the human population suffered a population drop? Think of how many of your parents and friends parents smoke marijuana.

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Originally Posted by Nullific

Also, just because someone goes to the emergency room doesn't imply something is wrong. Merely that the user thinks something is wrong. Think back to the first time you got high and you may see why. People get worried and paranoid, though there may be no problem at all.

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My Sister used to work as a Physical Therapist, and she said all the time, people would come into the hospital with heart-attack complaints and then find out that it's only gas.

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So many people have smoked marijuana for so long, if any of that were true why hasn't the human population suffered a population drop? Think of how many of your parents and friends parents smoke marijuana.

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Last night, a guy from Canada said his family has been living into their nineties for generations, until they outlawed pot, now they live into their fifties.

OMG DoC! im having a heart attack!
*breaks wind*

wow... i feel much better! thanks doc!

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Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf

OMG DoC! im having a heart attack!
*breaks wind*

wow... i feel much better! thanks doc!

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Great. I make a thread, asking people to help with the Pro-Pot movement, and this is what I get!!! Argh. :stoned:

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

I've smoked crack or marijuana or any of the other drugs I used, but I still get the cravings

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woah....evil kaneval couldnt have made that freakin jump. crack defenitly does NOT = weed....and yeah, you probally still do get the cravings, you smoked CRACK....FREEBASED COCAINE

if you want to discredit his reports just bold that sentance. hes a fucking hypocrite in every way.

Oh, God! Koshea, you're making me look like a moron, thanks.

I dont think weed is always good, I now have a minor case of MPD because of it. But it's only noticable by me when im high. If I stop smoking for a few days then I dont even remember it or notice it at all. Probably was just dormant before and this just brought it out. The thing is it doesnt affect my life at all in any way. I just notice that I'm 3 seperate people when I'm high. Its really easy to notice it when im driving for me because im 3 different kind of drivers one is really conservative and doesnt ever speed (this is what im like in traffic or when im with people), but then sometimes the speed freak comes out (only when im by myself) i drive as fast as i can and just enjoy the rush. Then I have my stessed out self which is always tired and busy and on the edge (probably the original me).

I think my mind just kinda created a few extra personalities because it was bored. Because even my friends would seem weird, all my friends are different and i have like 3 groups of friends too.

Well lets see according to "studies" some dumbass doctor said that as soon as the immune system is exposed to marijuana smoke it shuts down.


So then why arent stoners always in the hospital in the ICU? I've gotten sick MUCH LESS since I started smoking weed.

dazenfmeister, that isnt MPD, that is just having a well rounded existence, exploring all aspects of human existance, by being 3 different personalities, instead of 1, you get to be everyone. however, yes, weed, sadly, isnt always good for you. it has tar and resin and carcinogins...but fuck it. i dont care...do you?

Very nice way to show some basic facts that have been beatin' into our heads since grade 4...but not totaly right...No Weed is not a cure and yet it has side effects. But it is not ment to be a cure. Weed is used to help people with siezers. Not just little ones I mean big deadly ones. Because weed slows down brain activity, it is good to calm down a mellow out a person. Weed is also used as a painkiller. Now I know it is only used for extrem cases as a painkiller, but it still is used as one.

Anyways beachguy in thongs, I think you are by FAIR one of the last people who should be making this type of topic. What are you trying to prove, please tell me. Do you think that everyone here thinks weed is a magic plant that can cure all problems...Weed does bad yes but so do many other things in this world. If you have a problem with weed and ideas behind smoking it may I suggest you joining a Anti-MJ Forum. Take your crap out of this place and keep it out. No one cares. If we did we wouldn't be smoking it.

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Originally Posted by MudFu

Very nice way to show some basic facts that have been beatin' into our heads since grade 4...but not totaly right...No Weed is not a cure and yet it has side effects. But it is not ment to be a cure. Weed is used to help people with siezers. Not just little ones I mean big deadly ones. Because weed slows down brain activity, it is good to calm down a mellow out a person. Weed is also used as a painkiller. Now I know it is only used for extrem cases as a painkiller, but it still is used as one.

Anyways beachguy in thongs, I think you are by FAIR one of the last people who should be making this type of topic. What are you trying to prove, please tell me. Do you think that everyone here thinks weed is a magic plant that can cure all problems...Weed does bad yes but so do many other things in this world. If you have a problem with weed and ideas behind smoking it may I suggest you joining a Anti-MJ Forum. Take your crap out of this place and keep it out. No one cares. If we did we wouldn't be smoking it.

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um...im pretty sure beach guy was being pro pot by tring to discredit these.

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um...im pretty sure beach guy was being pro pot by tring to discredit these.

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Thanks, we need people who really give a shit about everyone's perspectives, like the politicians are elected to do, so we need to see all sides of the argument.

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Great. I make a thread, asking people to help with the Pro-Pot movement, and this is what I get!!! Argh. :stoned:

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what'd you expect from a bunch of potheads?

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Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf

what'd you expect from a bunch of potheads?

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Uhhh...

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Originally Posted by MudFu

Very nice way to show some basic facts that have been beatin' into our heads since grade 4...but not totaly right...No Weed is not a cure and yet it has side effects. But it is not ment to be a cure. Weed is used to help people with siezers. Not just little ones I mean big deadly ones. Because weed slows down brain activity, it is good to calm down a mellow out a person. Weed is also used as a painkiller. Now I know it is only used for extrem cases as a painkiller, but it still is used as one.

Anyways beachguy in thongs, I think you are by FAIR one of the last people who should be making this type of topic. What are you trying to prove, please tell me. Do you think that everyone here thinks weed is a magic plant that can cure all problems...Weed does bad yes but so do many other things in this world. If you have a problem with weed and ideas behind smoking it may I suggest you joining a Anti-MJ Forum. Take your crap out of this place and keep it out. No one cares. If we did we wouldn't be smoking it.

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

Oh, God! Koshea, you're making me look like a moron, thanks.

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oh, come now, it wasnt KOSHEA who was doing anything that looks bad, was it? ;)

And one more thing...

Weed IS a Cure!!!

It has been shown to CURE three types of cancer in Mice.

damn ya beat me to it :P


now i need to find a different thread to contribute to to make up for my uselessness! >=( :D

MUDFU, seems like a rude-ass person

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

My Sister used to work as a Physical Therapist, and she said all the time, people would come into the hospital with heart-attack complaints and then find out that it's only gas.

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Yes, farting cures many common ailments. It's a godsend, really.

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Originally Posted by koshea

dazenfmeister, that isnt MPD, that is just having a well rounded existence, exploring all aspects of human existance, by being 3 different personalities, instead of 1, you get to be everyone. however, yes, weed, sadly, isnt always good for you. it has tar and resin and carcinogins...but fuck it. i dont care...do you?

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Well it sure feels like im going crazy. But whatever not like I can do anything except live my life. Pot has done ALOT of good for me, so did all the other drugs ive done.

Haha sorry then Im an ass I knwo....I'm a little fucked up and I think I missed 2 paragraphs :O....sorry dude my bad

*slaps myself in the face* Dumbass...