20x salvia didnt work

my friend got a half g of 20x salvia extract yesterday so today he wanted to hit it and called me to sit. so i get there, and we sit down, and he puts a generous pinch into the screen and puts it in the bowl of his glass piece. then he puts the flame right on the salvia and hits it good for a good 15 seconds then holds it for like 30 secs. after about 30 secs after he blew it out he just looked at me and goes, "it didnt work". after that, he was kinda giggly, sorta like a light weed buz, but then it just kinda wore off. didnt hallucinate or anything. what went wrong?

Didn't smoke enough. Try 2-4 hits like that if one only got you giggly. Also, was it a butane torch?

dude. today i did 2 hits of salvia 20X and let me tell you i was fucking tripping out man. i used a normal bic and used a bong and held the lighter to it the whole time. everything was rushing about me and left was down and it was just fuckin incredible.

Might not have been 20x, if you bought it from a "guy" then it might have been like 5x or something. However I know a guy that hit alot of 15x and just got tingles, depends on your body chemistry.

^ hm interesting. yea im almost positive its actualy 20x. were gona give it another go tomorrow or sunday.

well it seems as if you may be using the wrong equipment. Are you using a butane lighter? Normal lighters will work, but not as effectively as butane. You need it really hot to separate the salvinorn-A.

Regular lighters work fine, you just need to hold the flame to it as you draw. I ALWAYS use a regular light and always get a good effect.

And fmk, maybe you just need to smoke more. If you got crude extracts, I find that sometimes I come across blanks... that don't get me off. So have another bowl ready in case you get a blank. If it's not that then maybe you just need to smoke more over a period of time and eventually lower your tolerance. Practice on your smoking technigue and hold in the hits for at least 25 seconds. Everyone breaks through eventually, but some have to keep trying. Sucks to be them.

Use a torch- and hold it on there the entire time you are inhaling.

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Originally Posted by CocaCola

Regular lighters work fine, you just need to hold the flame to it as you draw. I ALWAYS use a regular light and always get a good effect.

And fmk, maybe you just need to smoke more. If you got crude extracts, I find that sometimes I come across blanks... that don't get me off. So have another bowl ready in case you get a blank. If it's not that then maybe you just need to smoke more over a period of time and eventually lower your tolerance. Practice on your smoking technigue and hold in the hits for at least 25 seconds. Everyone breaks through eventually, but some have to keep trying. Sucks to be them.

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Regular lighters don't work as well as a torch lighter b/c it doesn't get hot enough to combust the chemical salvinorum a.
Just trust me on this one.
I usually take two good solid hits- and its enough to send me into Salvia World for a good ten minutes.

just take more hits fool

butane torch, bong, huge hit and hold it in, did it for me

salvia is awesome

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Originally Posted by NightProwler

salvia is awesome

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Amen

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Originally Posted by Shai Hulud

Regular lighters don't work as well as a torch lighter b/c it doesn't get hot enough to combust the chemical salvinorum a.
Just trust me on this one.
I usually take two good solid hits- and its enough to send me into Salvia World for a good ten minutes.

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I've always gotten effects with just a bic and holding the flame to the Salvia as I inhale. Maybe a Torch would be more convenient for some, but it's not needed for me. :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by CocaCola

I've always gotten effects with just a bic and holding the flame to the Salvia as I inhale. Maybe a Torch would be more convenient for some, but it's not needed for me. :thumbsup:

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I'm sure it 'worked', but you just won't get the same effects from a Bic. Its science man. When you use a Bic- your not combusting all of the Salvinorum A, the Bic just doesn't get hot enough. For all of your Salvinorum A to combust your lighter has to reach at least 464 degrees, thats 100 degrees hotter than it takes to burn cannabis. So thats why it takes the hotter direct flame from a butane torch to combust everything.

You're probably right... the first time I tried Salvia I used a torch and it sent me to the magical land of Narnia for a little while. Ever since then I haven't used a torch lighter simply because I haven't ever thought about getting one. I know it works without one though... but maybe if I used one at this point I'd go farther then ever before. SCARY!

sounds to me like you're not doing something right, becuase you did get an effect off of it that seems to be very common, laughing... just cuz it didnt' hit you the first time don't underestimate it.... it's better to waste and not trip than to miss judge and be sent into an uncontrollable high... i would get a torch lighter, pack a decent sized hit (keep in mind with a torch lighter this shit burns fast, my bowl freshly packed with weed lasts a good 10-12 hits when it's half way, half way wtih salvia and a torch lighter it lasts one hit, and it's completely cashed) and hit it slow, but hard at the same time (hard to explain) keeping the flame of the torch on it at all times, and hold for 30 seconds...and if it doesn't work load up more in the next bowl, or take consecutive hits the size you packed the first time.

There is a few things why it didn't work. For one, you did 1 hit, that will do jack shit. To get the full effect of salvia, the best is take a nice, HUGE rip, hold it in for about 10sec. and take another rip, release, and try and take one more(if you can), and you will feel the effects.

Another is, maybe it wasn't really 20x, maybe it was just 5x, or just the leaf. The first time I did 5x I felt next to nothing. I bought some 10x about a month ago, and I have about 3 big rips from a small, wodden pipe I bought, and man......I am flying!! Fucked up.

So...try again.

it only takes 1 rip if you do it right^

when i do it, i wouldn't be able to make the second hit.... as soon as i exhale the first hit i'm gone.... i don't think i'd even realize how to operate a pipe/bong and a lighter at that point...

^^ this is true.

I take one hit and hold for thirty seconds... if I require a second hit then I can take it... usually won't get to thirty seconds before it starts to kick in though.